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Got to love the left.

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Obama presided over the recovery of the US economy and brought about the most radical overhaul of US healthcare system.

    You wouldn't have read about it on Breitbart of course.
    He also deported more that anyone ever before ! Maybe not such a leftie on deportations .


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Read what I wrote again before misquoting me.



    ''The hard left'' is what I said. I'm referring to the extreme left in the above.

    Define the “hard left” or the “extreme left” please.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭mick malones mauser


    Was Bertie Ahern not the last socialist left in Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    biko wrote: »
    I doubt these libtards had moved a muscle if the deportee were Polish or Australian (aka white).

    Most normal people wouldn't use that word


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Brian? wrote: »
    Define the “hard left” or the “extreme left” please.

    You know when people on here say alt-right, well think the opposing side of that. Extreme end of that spectrum, whatever way you wanna put it. Basically, intolerant fcukers and no better than what they propose to hate. Anti-facists and fascists are quickly becoming one and the same. Two sides of the same coin.

    Anyway, that's who I was referring to when I said the far left. Never said ''the left'' in general. Not that I'll get an apology for being misquoted.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Here, the original post I quoted was blaming 'the left' for Trump, the blame for Trump lies strictly with the retards who like him and vote for him. I don't care about any of the issues you posted, that's not my Left, so you'll need to go reconsult your leftie outrage list

    The language you use is disgusting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Obama presided over the recovery of the US economy and brought about the most radical overhaul of US healthcare system.

    You wouldn't have read about it on Breitbart of course.


    But what have the Romans ever done for us?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Anyway, that's who I was referring to when I said the far left. Never said ''the left'' in general. Not that I'll get an apology for being misquoted.

    You won't get an apology because you are using terms which mean different things from your view to that which seems to be the common view.

    You have used terms including far left, hard left and extreme left to have different motivations. I would say that all of these are the same thing and are the minority of the entire left associated grouping.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Lefties wouldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery !


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    blinding wrote: »
    Lefties wouldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery !

    Good contribution. Have you a blog or website I can subscribe to?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Omackeral wrote: »
    You know when people on here say alt-right, well think the opposing side of that. Extreme end of that spectrum, whatever way you wanna put it. Basically, intolerant fcukers and no better than what they propose to hate. Anti-facists and fascists are quickly becoming one and the same. Two sides of the same coin.

    Anyway, that's who I was referring to when I said the far left. Never said ''the left'' in general. Not that I'll get an apology for being misquoted.

    Sorry but this is very vague. I consider myself far left in beliefs. But I am completely anti authoritarian and a pacifist.

    I am trying to understand who you have issues with. Is the so called “SJWs”? I propose we call them identarians.

    I don’t believe there is a left wing equivalent of the alt right. The alt right are rebranded bigots.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Brian? wrote: »
    Sorry but this is very vague. I consider myself far left in beliefs. But I am completely anti authoritarian and a pacifist.

    I am trying to understand who you have issues with. Is the so called “SJWs”? I propose we call them identarians.

    I don’t believe there is a left wing equivalent of the alt right. The alt right are rebranded bigots.

    I could be wrong but I guess under 30 idealists ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Good contribution. Have you a blog or website I can subscribe to?
    Are you looking for Free Beer ?:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    IMO the phrase we should use is "the authoritarian left" or even better, "authoritarian liberals". It shows exactly how fundamentally contradictory these peoples' views are :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    You won't get an apology

    Didn't think so.

    I'll try one more time. This is what you said.
    As a left inclined individual, can I ask you to stop suggesting we all think that way. We all don't. Certainly,the extreme left do.

    You asked me to stop suggesting left leaning people all think in an extreme or uniform way. Never said it. Not once. You actually agreed with me towards the end of your reply. ''The extreme left think that way'' is what you said. Which is exactly what I said!

    I have used extreme left, hard left and far left synonymously with each other and each other only, NOT with the left in general. Hope that's clear enough for you.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,713 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    The language you use is disgusting.

    Not a word I'm a fan of tbh, but that's the standard on AH at the moment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Not a word I'm a fan of tbh, but that's the standard on AH at the moment

    That's not an excuse, there are many many words you could use.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Brian? wrote: »
    I am trying to understand who you have issues with.

    I don’t believe there is a left wing equivalent of the alt right. The alt right are rebranded bigots.

    Antifa and their ilk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Again, disgusting language, is your vocabulary so limited ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    The khymer rouge were extreme left, noy exactly soft when it came to social issues.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    Again, disgusting language, is your vocabulary so limited ?

    He's quoting someone else.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    And still smarter than lefties .


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    These left versus right threads are tedium incarnate. Throw out a few buzzwords like confetti, you've got yourself a debate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    You don't. It's not an educated or informed view........ Or a common one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭AnneFrank


    Omackeral wrote: »
    He's quoting someone else.

    You liked the comment, do you enjoy making fun of the weakest part of society? It's cowardly in my opinion, plenty of other words to use


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    That is not a word I use.


    I repeat - anyone who spent more than 5 minutes looking into Donald Trump's lifetime of boasting, lying and serially going bankrupt, and thought 'This man is competent to be president', is severely, profoundly lacking in critical judgement.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,525 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I repeat - anyone who spent more than 5 minutes looking into Donald Trump's lifetime of boasting, lying and serially going bankrupt, and thought 'This man is competent to be president', is severely, profoundly lacking in critical judgement.

    Exactly. Hillary was not a likable choice but I think many are using her as an excuse to justify themselves or numbers that voted for Donald. I think many did so because they bought in to his rhetoric that everything is easy, his barely disguised racism and the fact that he was loud.

    Scary thing is, If I was betting today, I'd bet that he will be re-elected in 2020.
    No viable alternative on the democrat side and many Americans just don't seem to care about long term global relations or the state of the planet.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Antifa and their ilk.

    Even Antifa aren’t an homogeneous group. More of a loose coalition of fringe groups. I disagree with some of their methods, but I agree with their cause. Everyone should be anti fascist.

    I feel you’re generalising too much. Like a lot of people do. So it reaches the point where every stupid protest or online outrage is seen as a true representation of how the entire left behave.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,076 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    AnneFrank wrote: »
    I could be wrong but I guess under 30 idealists ?

    What’s wrong with being an idealist?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    Anyone who spent more than 5 minutes looking into Hillary Clintons's lifetime of scandals, lying and corruption, and thought 'This Woman is competent to be president', is severely, profoundly lacking in critical judgement.


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