Dairy Chitchat 3

The Rabbi

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Clear test:)

Relationships will be back to normal soon.;)

roosterman71

The environmentalists are putting a fight up against the planned Glanbia cheese plant in Kilkenny now
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/agribusiness-and-food/glanbia-cheese-plant-faces-objections-over-dairy-herd-emissions-1.4121481

Gawddawggonnit

K.G. wrote: »

So either two things.one we have a veal season where people eat alot of veal and have little veal next 9 mo ths or we export a glut of veal every.12 momths-not a promising setup for any business.veal is not the answer in my books.

Irish won’t eat veal for ‘ethical’ reasons.

Yes there would be a glut of veal over a couple of months every year, but surely that’s the dairy industry’s fault? Dairy industry can’t have their cake and eat it.
Thus the dairy industry need to subsidize the veal producers. It’s happened here.

The dairy industry want xbreds, unlimited nitrates, spring calving etc etc, and the Government to pick up the tab...unfortunately only the banks get that kind of preferential treatment.

Gawddawggonnit

straight wrote: »

Rosé grass fed veal is the nicest of all reportedly

Veal is veal.
Pork and veal are much the same kind of meat. No aging needed either.

Castlekeeper

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Irish won’t eat veal for ‘ethical’ reasons.

Yes there would be a glut of veal over a couple of months every year, but surely that’s the dairy industry’s fault? Dairy industry can’t have their cake and eat it.
Thus the dairy industry need to subsidize the veal producers. It’s happened here.

The dairy industry want xbreds, unlimited nitrates, spring calving etc etc, and the Government to pick up the tab...unfortunately only the banks get that kind of preferential treatment.

Maybe the name is the problem? People have no problem eating pork, chicken, even lamb! Maybe we should rebrand it as calf?

K.G.

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Irish won’t eat veal for ‘ethical’ reasons.

Yes there would be a glut of veal over a couple of months every year, but surely that’s the dairy industry’s fault? Dairy industry can’t have their cake and eat it.
Thus the dairy industry need to subsidize the veal producers. It’s happened here.

The dairy industry want xbreds, unlimited nitrates, spring calving etc etc, and the Government to pick up the tab...unfortunately only the banks get that kind of preferential treatment.

Another take on it.30 % bred to sexed semen and the rest bred off beef breeds bred off fr cows.test.requirement moved to 60 days to facilitate bringing calves to a relative easy stage to manage and rear.then moved to farms where you have decent scale to avail of efficiency s and slaughtered at different stages from 20 to 30 months depending on the animal.no pricking around marts or throwing big bales into round feeders or poisoning dear bags of beef nuts.obviously the increase in dairy births is going to have to be balanced against a reduction in sucklers but that s happening already.enough day dreaming back to raving about irish veal

Say my name

A quare lot of posturing going on lately..!!

You have the Greens gone anti dairy.
You have An Taisce the same with the same people in both.
You have feed mills in cahoots with the processors looking to make more money and talk of stopping exports.
You have small dairy farmers who never expanded and bred a dual purpose animal and always sold their calves for a good few coin being asked now to give their calves away for free and put coin with them to help the next fella.

Funny old world. Who'd be the small dairy farmer?
Well there mightnt be for much longer.
I'd be a nice ole world then.

Poor oul farmer and not a representative in any of the unions.

Buford T. Justice XIX

whelan2 wrote: »

Happy Christmas

It will be now:pac:

straight

Say my name wrote: »

A quare lot of posturing going on lately..!!

You have the Greens gone anti dairy.
You have An Taisce the same with the same people in both.
You have feed mills in cahoots with the processors looking to make more money and talk of stopping exports.
You have small dairy farmers who never expanded and bred a dual purpose animal and always sold their calves for a good few coin being asked now to give their calves away for free and put coin with them to help the next fella.

Funny old world. Who'd be the small dairy farmer?
Well there mightnt be for much longer.
I'd be a nice ole world then.

Poor oul farmer and not a representative in any of the unions.

I suppose most of us are small dairy farmers really. Need the money for the calves and the cull cows.

Say my name

straight wrote: »

I suppose most of us are small dairy farmers really. Need the money for the calves and the cull cows.

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

alps

Say my name wrote: »

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

Have you booked in? Should be a good outing..

Say my name

alps wrote: »

Have you booked in? Should be a good outing..

No I'm thinking i probably should now.

I left out.. those coke and hookers..

GrasstoMilk

Say my name wrote: »

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

You'll be reminiscing in 40 years time when three 4 week old calves would buy the tonne of meal back in 20 and 15
I'd say you're doing all right say!

Say my name

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

You'll be reminiscing in 40 years time when three 4 week old calves would buy the tonne of meal back in 20 and 15
I'd say you're doing all right say!

In 40 years time I'll be stuck in my office giving out about the drone tractors breaking down during the Jerusalem artichoke harvest.

Ah I've a good enough life. Feckers in this country though if they think you're doing anything any good they try and ride you while sitting on their own arses.

straight

Say my name wrote: »

In 40 years time I'll be stuck in my office giving out about the drone tractors breaking down during the Jerusalem artichoke harvest.

Ah I've a good enough life. Feckers in this country though if they think you're doing anything any good they try and ride you while sitting on their own arses.

Yep, I hate that too. Ah sure he has plenty, take, take take. Fact that you'd be working hard for it just doesn't matter.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Say my name wrote: »

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

I remember a lad on here a good few years ago that said he wouldn't get out of bed in the morning for less than 100 cows.:)

whelan2

Say my name wrote: »

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

Would you want the stress of it all? There's more to life than farming

Say my name

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

I remember a lad on here a good few years ago that said he wouldn't get out of bed in the morning for less than 100 cows.:)

Probably has a thousand cows by now, the fecker... and selling bull calves for a Euro.

Say my name

whelan2 wrote: »

Would you want the stress of it all? There's more to life than farming

It's my idea of hell.

But there's other people wired differently.

whelan2

Say my name wrote: »

It's my idea of hell.

But there's other people wired differently.

I suppose whatever floats your boat.

GrasstoMilk

Parlour just turned off this morning till I'd say this time next month.
Should I leave clusters off the wash line, milk tank open etc to keep air through system to stop any bacteria growing or is there any need?

Wildsurfer

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Parlour just turned off this morning till I'd say this time next month.
Should I leave clusters off the wash line, milk tank open etc to keep air through system to stop any bacteria growing or is there any need?

I dried everything yesterday, did a hot descale, left everything hooked up and will do a few hot washes before I supply again.

Mooooo

Will do a couple of hot washes on plant and tank. Have service booked for Jan and will change liners also

boggerman1

Clear test today for first time since October last yr.the relief.its been mental the past while dealing with it.hopefully pass the next one too

mf240

I see the tree huggers have held up planning for Glanbia latest cheese plant. I assume sense will prevail and it will be granted or will it.

Water John

I think the same guy was on recently objecting to the upgrade of Ireland's only cable car to Dursey Island. He wanted the area to be left, rewild.

Keepgrowing

Say my name wrote: »

Are jeez we're not all.

There should be a differential made between less than 70 and maybe even less than 60 and the rest and probably look into properly looking after those that they don't disappear.

All the talk of dairy is of these big bad dairies taking over 3 and 4 farms with rotaries with jersey cross and 40foot wide cow roads and limited company ownership and foreign workers working on the farm while the owner's are attending the latest national grassland meeting sponsored by a fertilizer company, making an average income of €60k published by teagasc's profit monitor while posting about calves and culls on social media making beer money as a badge of honour.

Lol

Say my name

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Lol

Just bringing the Christmas cheer..

Castlekeeper

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Parlour just turned off this morning till I'd say this time next month.
Should I leave clusters off the wash line, milk tank open etc to keep air through system to stop any bacteria growing or is there any need?

Milk tanks are all vented afaik, you'll be milking the first few tines for calves anyway so it'll be well rinsed and washed again before anything is collected anyway. I've never heard of problems overwinter.

mf240

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Parlour just turned off this morning till I'd say this time next month.
Should I leave clusters off the wash line, milk tank open etc to keep air through system to stop any bacteria growing or is there any need?

Don't leave any meal in the feeders or augers