Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

Birdnuts

riffmongous wrote: »

First of all, Ray Bates is not independent. He is closely associated with a UK based anti-climate lobby group, headed by an expert on 'cultural studies' and physical exercise.

Secondly maybe his 'ban' is actually due to what was described as his 'wilful misrepresentation' of scientific findings during a report for this lobby group




http://icarus-maynooth.blogspot.com/2018/12/addressing-stated-concerns-from-ray.html

Maynooth and the likes of Sweeney are the centre of alarmist nonsense in this country - I guess its good for raking in government grants though:rolleyes:

Cass

Cass wrote: »

Seen the headline and the first thought that came into my head was "I bet that is Martin Nolan again".

Imagine my shock.

Cass wrote: »

.............. and another one.

................... aaaannnnndddddd another.

tudderone

Cass wrote: »

................... aaaannnnndddddd another.

What would you have to do to get a custodial sentence in this country ? Apart from the obvious like thumping a burglar in your house or not paying the television licence ?

Cass

yubabill

"The analysis of Ray Bates is not a peer reviewed paper and finding substantive flaws in it is really not that hard. This has taken me all of an hour of an evening. Compare and contrast to the rigor of the IPCC assessment process with multi-author teams, multiple drafting meetings, substantive rounds of in-depth review, and final sign off on the summary word by word with the governments of the world. Only the most robust findings survive such a process. It is to borrow a colloquialism like contrasting night and day. I know who I’m going to pin my choices as to the future for my kids on. "

I don't know anything about Ray Bates, but I know this - almost everything I do in chemistry is commercially sensitive and done under NDA, so recently, I grew enough tooth enamel to repair a 1mm wide cavity in vitro having read and sifted hundreds of scientific papers.

The reason I was successful and the others failed was because they all made the same incorrect fundamental technical assumption.

Last summer I went on the record and asked if anyone could show me proof that a rise in atmospheric CO2 is followed by a rise in temperature?

I'm still waiting for any response at all....

Grizzly 45

But Yuba,remember,THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!! by group consensus in climate science;) So there is no need to ask for proof .

yubabill

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

But Yuba,remember,THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!!! by group consensus in climate science;) So there is no need to ask for proof .

I've learned a couple of things over the years;

-Science is a search for truth

-All theories are up for grabs.

Back on because I've just found this, which has some new information I was not aware of. Knew about Michael Mann, alright, but thought he was independent of IPCC when he brought out the hockey stick - see how they treated the temperature record in a most un-scientific way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_8xd0LCeRQ

And NASA/NOAA have after almost 20 years finally managed to eliminate the Climategate "1940's blip" and the Mediaeval warm period for good measure, from the temperature record.

Grizzly 45

The greatest scientists in history are that because they broke with the consensus.There is no such thing as consensus science.If it's consensus it isn't science.If it is science it isnt consensus.Period!

Michael Crichton The Caltech Michelan lecture 2003

tudderone

A republican politician telling people to buy family members a gun for christmas for self-defence. Can you imagine a fg or ff stooge advocating something like that ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dparHK9wdDU

Or a garda super saying this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E2hy4tp2S8

Cass

Cass wrote: »

Cass wrote: »

Seen the headline and the first thought that came into my head was "I bet that is Martin Nolan again".

Imagine my shock.

Cass wrote: »

.............. and another one.

................... aaaannnnndddddd another.

Yet, more.

Less than a week now. Must be a personal best.

tudderone

Cass wrote: »

Yet, more.

Less than a week now. Must be a personal best.

All the same kind of cases, kiddy fiddling, child porn and public exposure
something very fishy there :mad:.

Grizzly 45

But woe betide you if you are caught smuggling garlic under the same judge.

tudderone

Trump and the USA giving Merkel and Germany the finger over their plan to buy Gas and run a pipeline from Russia. It could get cold in Germany real soon. So much for the "Green deal" if they have to start burning coal in their power plants again.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/germany-and-eu-condemn-us-sanctions-on-gas-pipeline-150111

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

BTW they werent conspircy claims .They were LEAKED emails between the supposedly foremost minds in this field in the UK in the Climate Research Unit in the University of East Anglica.The kind of people that Govts listen to for advice?Discussing such diverse things in 1079 emails and 72 documents;

Doubting their own results on climate change

Doctoring and trying to ignore the Mediveal warm period as it didnt fit the "hockey stick" graph

Fantasies of beating up Climate change skeptics

Conspircy to suppress evidence
And most scary how to deplatform anyone with a dissenting voice!

As well as conspiring and comitting a criminal offence under the freedom of information acts of deleting files and information when it was specifically requested in a FOIA request.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/01/06/250-plus-noteworthy-climategate-2-0-emails/

Reminds me of inspector youtube in the pistol cases years ago.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/carbon-credits-fraud-trial-collapses-andrew-ager-expert-witness-a8935921.html

Grizzly 45

And lets not mention World Wildlife Fund trying to snaffle 12billion dollars in carbon credits in Brazil either.

Grizzly 45

AND NO DOUBT will affect the AIRSOFT folks in Ireland.
As you might know ,Germany has adopted new firearms laws in line with the EU gun ban directive last Friday [the 13th].Mostly like us ,mag bans,semi auto conversions from select fire firearms.Including BLANK Firing,are illegal.Knife and weapon ban zones can be now enacted at city level.[But if you have the small arms pass or a hunting lic or concealed carry,you are exempt]Knives must be shorter now again if carried in a public place,and you are now checked out by the German secret service to see if your political ideals are correct so you can own a firearm.IE you dont belong to neo nazi group,or sympathise with the Reich citizens ,etc.But being a jihadist or ANTIFA thug still seems to be fine..:rolleyes:

Ayway, a group who was itting on the side and smugly saying "Nothing to do with us" Got it in the neck as well.The Airsofters. In such ANY FULL AUTO airsoft guns that shoot over 0.08 joule and under 0.5 joule are not classified as toys anymore,and need the "F stamp in the Pentagon" and are then classified as a "live firearm" and because of their firearm and full auto function,are prohibited CAT A items.:eek:

So that means there will be now more illegal weapons in the EU around now 50 million,and 10X more charges brought agains people under the firearms laws for having illegal firearms.As well as youngsters being charged with such,as anyone under 18 EU wide cant use or posses an "F in the Pentagon" firearm[IE airgun,blank firing,etc]

What it just shows ,is again,you might think you are immune from gun laws or from certain legislation,because you dont shoot "that type of gun or disipline",and the Govt wouldnt bother me,as it doesn't apply to MY type of gun" Well,think again.The simple fact is people,the EU and UN want us ALL disarmed.It doesnt matter anymore if it is airsoft or a quad 20 mm vulcan cannon.It is a gun like thing and they dont want you to have it simple as. This is the "law of indifference and intended consequences " in action.

So dont be surprised if this is brought in here as well on airsoft,and watch the squaking start here too in airsoft world.
AS this is Another EU directive from 2009
The 2009/48/EU 18th 0f June 2009,directive on saftey in toys.

Dont say you weren't warned!!!

tudderone

No wonder the AFD is rising in popularity in Germany. The right wing Sweden democrats rising to number one position in the polls, Its looks like Poland could be heading out of the EU and i see tonight that Spain are not happy either, over that MEP who was released. Add all that to the fact a proven incompetent, Von Der Leyen, who is already in trouble with her phone, is running the show and Brexit the end of next month, things do not look so rosy right now.

If they continue to alienate people , It could all unravel very quickly, not that the amateur hour media we have here would ever let on.


https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/12/23/breaking-newsspain-follows-poland-in-shock-threat-to-quit-eu/#.XgFzTSHAPIU

yubabill

tudderone wrote: »

No wonder the AFD is rising in popularity in Germany. The right wing Sweden democrats rising to number one position in the polls, Its looks like Poland could be heading out of the EU and i see tonight that Spain are not happy either, over that MEP who was released. Add all that to the fact a proven incompetent, Von Der Leyen, who is already in trouble with her phone, is running the show and Brexit the end of next month, things do not look so rosy right now.

If they continue to alienate people , It could all unravel very quickly, not that the amateur hour media we have here would ever let on.


https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2019/12/23/breaking-newsspain-follows-poland-in-shock-threat-to-quit-eu/#.XgFzTSHAPIU

Unfortunately, the EU leaders think we are all metrosexual urban liberals, as do the UK Labour party.

yubabill

Was reading up on the NZ gun ban just now, it seems that not everyone handed in their banned firearms but it's impossible to know - some estimates guessed there were about 170,000 newly-banned firearms in the country, but only about 56,000 were handed over.

Then a police website security breach came to light just before the amnesty/buyback scheme was to close, where gun owner's private info and even bank details could be accessed...

https://reason.com/2019/12/04/new-zealands-mandatory-buyback-program-leaked-gun-owners-personal-info/

Grizzly 45

AND of course NO mention in Irish/UK MSM about the ongoing LA style riots in Rinkeby Stockholm last week.Or of the bomb and hand grenade attacks and shootings.Yup,things arent great in IKEAland at all,but all you hear from that place is all about Saint Greta Thunafishberg and her outbursts.:p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcI_ZwB14Ps

Grizzly 45

yubabill wrote: »

Unfortunately, the EU leaders think we are all metrosexual urban liberals, as do the UK Labour party.

An then they are all standing around wondering after Brexit and Trump getting in,and who will be in again next year. [a] What the hell happened? and continue on their track of self destruction without learning anything.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

An then they are all standing around wondering after Brexit and Trump getting in,and who will be in again next year. [a] What the hell happened? and continue on their track of self destruction without learning anything.

Go onto twitter or the guardian newspaper and look with hilarity at the complete meltdown the upper middle class London based vegan socialists are having over Corbyn delivering the worst beating Labour have gotten in nearly 90 years.

The conclusion ? They were not left wing enough :rolleyes:

tudderone

The original soy-boy and role model for our "Leader", Trudy Trudeau, getting stuck into a handgun ban :rolleyes:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-says-he-won-t-let-resistant-premiers-scuttle-municipal-handgun-ban-1.5405858


"Incremental steps forward" (nibbling away until everything is gone)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-montreal-massacre-speeches-1.5386610

Grizzly 45

tudderone wrote: »

The original soy-boy and role model for our "Leader", Trudy Trudeau, getting stuck into a handgun ban :rolleyes:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-says-he-won-t-let-resistant-premiers-scuttle-municipal-handgun-ban-1.5405858


"Incremental steps forward" (nibbling away until everything is gone)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-montreal-massacre-speeches-1.5386610

Well you voted that utter culture appropriating ,black faceing money swindling asshat back in,full well knowing what sort of gob****e he is... Did ye expect somthing differnent???Enjoy the gun control under Socialism.:rolleyes:

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Well you voted that utter culture appropriating ,black faceing money swindling asshat back in,full well knowing what sort of gob****e he is... Did ye expect somthing differnent???Enjoy the gun control under Socialism.:rolleyes:

Yes he is a gob****e to you and me, but to others of the opposite ilk, he is a saviour. The whole west of Canada is conservative and there is also talk of Canada splitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da82lKPAP4k

Cass

Now i know how my Uncles felt when i was a sprog and i gave them socks and jocks. After saying that i'm sorted for a few years, and just in the nick of time too

tudderone

Someone talking sense in Canada for once.


https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-pm-knows-banning-handguns-wont-work

Grizzly 45

Could you be as good a defensive shooter as the guy in the church in Texas yesterday?
This is the skillset required to be a master with a handgun under stress . Put up a paper plate at 25 yards as a target,within 3 seconds,draw from your holster ,and put one shot dead centre of the plate.:eek:

THATS the differnce between "combat training" and IPSC sport too BTW.

tudderone

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Could you be as good a defensive shooter as the guy in the church in Texas yesterday?
This is the skillset required to be a master with a handgun under stress . Put up a paper plate at 25 yards as a target,within 3 seconds,draw from your holster ,and put one shot dead centre of the plate.:eek:

THATS the differnce between "combat training" and IPSC sport too BTW.

He should not have done it, he should have kept his gun holstered and waited 10 or 15 mins for a cop to show up and sort it out :rolleyes:.

tudderone

Anyone going to join in Varadkars plans to commemorate the Black and Tans ? He really knows how to open gob and insert foot that one.