Off Topic Chat. (MOD NOTE post# 3949 and post#5279)

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121576984#Comment_121576984

Not sure what the “interest” you refer to is. But the author of the article is also the person presenting the study in the image.

I drew a different conclusion from you;

In a nutshell, the study found that reintroducing wolves to Ireland’s landscape in 2023 would likely fail as wolf-human conflict would be rampant. 

Rampant wolf-human conflict. Case closed.

Grizzly 45

Translated into Irish thinking and logic."A great idea[for tourism] let's do it at all possible haste!"

J.R.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41303563.html?utm_source=irishexaminer&utm_campaign=41303563&utm_medium=lunchtimenewsletter

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https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2024/01/07/gardai-suspect-man-shot-during-soccer-match-in-tipperary-was-wounded-by-hunters/

endacl

Newsdump? Any opinion?

.243

Pic doing the rounds already showing post removal on a surgical tray showing a vmax head

Asus1

Must of been a 17hmr, anything larger in vmax would of made a hell of a mess and more or less disappeared into tiny pieces.The piece from the times is really trying to stir the pot,not hard to see what their agenda is.

BSA International

Reporter tagging on gangland shootings shows an agenda alright.

Thankfully the player is OK.

Paddyviking

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121582862#Comment_121582862

Could you share ?

Thanks

Pv

Grizzly 45

All we need! Another utter stupid GIMP shooting and not knowing where his goddam backstop is! This is why we lost being able to shoot on our property because of clowns like this.FFS its a simple rule.Don't send your Pew unless you are sure you know where your Pew is going to end up and stop, cant make it any simpler.

More fodder for the Irish media of course to try and make it out that ligit gun owners are the problem because of seven negligent [No such thing as an accidental discharge]discharges last year.

NIMAN

Sorry, but not interested in media agendas, but bear in mind that someone playing footy was hit with a bullet in the arm.

Perhaps a few inches higher and it might have been a death, from a head shot?

Or a child in a pram?

Gun owners have to be safer than safe. This is madness. Hopefully they will be able to track down the idiot involved and relieve them of the firearm.

.243

Nope,not gonna add traction to something that might not be factual

Cass

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Grizzly 45

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121583517#Comment_121583517

Finally got a pic of the bullet, and am not putting it up here either, however, I doubt it is a 17 HMR,it looks more like a .223 Full Metal Jacket as there is little to no deformation and the red tip is more than likely the unfortunate victim's tissue and blood.If this was a hunting round,it would surely have mushroomed or break apart on impact even with flesh. If it is the case it is a FMJ,then that's lucky for ballistics and for the victim as a hunting round would have done a lot more damage.

otmmyboy2

From my own looking it is definitely small caliber (17-224, could be anywhere in that range) and definitely is polymer tipped (ie vmax, epn, etc) from the xray which omits the tip, thus not being a normal fmj.

Given it lodged in the forearm if it was a high velocity round it'd have spent most of its energy already before impacting him. Otherwise it would have just ploughed through unless it hit something solid, which again from the xray it did not.

Should be simple enough for plod to narrow down the suspect list though, assuming the hunters were lawful and not poachers, contact the landowners for who had permission to shoot on their land, check that against licence holders for suitable rifles, and you'll likely have a very small number of resulting possibilities.

Be interested to see the end result of this, and that barrister with the pistol from last year's case too actually.

Asus1

What the hell was the person trying to shoot if as has been said it was a small calibre.It hit the lad in the forearm so it wasn't a fox or rabbit they were after because if it was they must grow cow size down there.

In all seriousness it seems someone shooting from the shoulder and more or less aiming straight or slightly upwards to get the angle to get that shot.

Mellor

Somebody shooting

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121589705#Comment_121589705

I’ve heard of guys (idiots) shooting magpies, crows, etc out of the tree with small calibre rifles.

I wonder how far a .17HMR would travel, and what sort of energy it would retain, with a trajectory like that?

Grizzly 45

Had a chat with my neighbour who comes from that part of the world about this, and after having a look at Google maps I'm wondering how the hell this idiot could have taken a shot. The pitch isn't exactly out in the middle of nowhere, but pretty much in the town itself. It only opens on one side to fields which roll down to the pitch and you have oversight from 200 to 500 meters depending on your location, with the usual Irish countryside hedges and trees surrounding it.So unless they were completely irresponsible to shoot around the pitch when there was a match on, or they were a lot further out than the distances mentioned and that bullet travelled and missed every single obstruction by some freak occurrence.

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121595815#Comment_121595815

I had pulled up google maps with the terrain on and figured it came from some distance away, someone shot up a hill at something. Ditches ain't backstops.

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121601420#Comment_121601420

That was my assumption too given the lack of damage on impact. Some goon shooting at an upward trajectory, some distance away. May not even realise they were the culprit.

Grizzly 45

Follow on to this story...Which has slipped out of the news ratings.

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/1404316/hunter-comes-forward-following-shooting-incident-in-which-soccer-player-was-hit-by-bullet.html?fbclid=IwAR2bkNBossBkMCmXuXibwrYxcqtXk9en-5jYVsfQlM5noz57iGOti3TpPt0

Luna84

I was reading a news article of a man in his 80's getting shot and killed in Kerry but anyway he owned a number of guns including two .45's. A .45 revolver and a 1911 .45 pistol. I didn't think you could own such guns in Ireland?

Cass

You could up until 2009. After that, no.

Those with them before 2009 were able to "grandfather" them, which means continue to license them, but never change or sell them on (within the 26 counties).

Mellor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121825940#Comment_121825940

Given his age, it's likely they were in face grandfathered pre-2009

Feisar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121826511#Comment_121826511

Having done a bit of reading it looks likely they were, he was very involved in shooting sports.

Grizzly 45

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121825940#Comment_121825940

He also happened to be a gun dealer, which allows you to have these in your possession. Not to mind he fought for and was granted their licensing as a private preson in a dist court in one of the first of these kinds of cases against an especially vindictive and unpleasant chief superintendent back in 2010. He was also an expert witness in many of the following court cases for gunowners,including my own, I and the shooting community will greatly miss him.

BSA International

Lovely man. RIP.

Nekarsulm

The Inquiry has been published and is being circulated around the Oireachtas, with a recommendation that members read it.

https://christchurchattack.royalcommission.nz/the-report/ jJustice 5/3/24

jb88

This report was clearly put together by a group who did not actually see the footage which was widely circulated on social media at the time and showed a number of people being fired upon by the shooter with a pump action shotgun. Dont see much of that in this report.

If he had used a knife for this purpose would that be the subject of the enquiry.

Cass

MODERATOR NOTIFICATION

Moved to off topic.

Nekarsulm

I mention/link to it because it is being circulated to the Justice comittee, with a recommendation that they all read it.

Forewarned is forearmed, etc ....