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Padraig Nally is attacked again!

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    #212
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    end of the road wrote: »
    ward died due to being murdered out of revenge by a dangerous out of control individual who got off due to the sympathy vote. the jury allowed a dangerous individual back into society which means questions should have been asked

    He wasn't murdered.


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    #213
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, he got sympathy and got lucky. he's still a dangerous individual though. he wouldn't be the first dangerous individual to be acquited and won't be the last.

    I find it hilarious that you take this view about Nally, when if you looked towards the other end of the barrel you would find someone deserving of said views.


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    #214
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    end of the road wrote: »
    got away with it out of sympathy by a sympathetic jury



    absolutely. this was no self defence. this was simple cold blooded murder spauned by revenge
    2 sympathic juries was it?

    what toss :rolleyes:


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    #215
    floggg
    Registered Users Posts: 5,820 ✭✭✭floggg


    Sociopath2 wrote: »
    I understand your argument but what you're missing is that it was put forward that he was afraid of Ward returning immediately with a weapon or other people. This is understandable as Ward did have his son with him and Nally had no idea how many more were nearby.

    I doubt revenge attacks months down the line were on his mind.

    That argument really doesn't hold up. If that was his concern, killing him clearly didn't reduce the risk in any way, it increased it.

    If you want to argue he wasn't thinking that would be one thing, but the suggestion that was a reasonable course of action to reduce the risk of reprisals is absurd. However mad people tend to get when their family members are shot and injured, they get a whole lot worse if they die.


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    #216
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Tzar Chasm wrote: »
    He didnt take the law into his own hands, he acted within the bounds of the law, his actions were judged to be lawful and reasonable by a jury of his peers.
    he did take the law into his own hands by commiting an act of cold blooded murder spauned by revenge. he got lucky, sympathy, and got off and away with it, all because of an overly sympathetic jury who all should never be able to serve on a jury again.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #217
    bjork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,554 ✭✭✭bjork


    end of the road wrote: »
    he did take the law into his own hands by commiting an act of cold blooded murder spauned by revenge. he got lucky, sympathy, and got off and away with it, all because of an overly sympathetic jury who all should never be able to serve on a jury again.
    He acted within the law, hence his acquittal. Never mind the conspiracy theories


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    #218
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    case885 wrote: »
    Don't forget Ward had a history of domestic abuse although his wife considered it to be 'play bating', good riddance and well done Mr Nally.
    not well done mr nally at all. only violent individuals who condone violence by all parties would say such a thing. i'm guessing you condone wards actions. if you condone nally commiting a violent act you have to condone any violent act commited by ward as well, as violent scum are violent scum

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #219
    Valetta
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,611 ✭✭✭Valetta


    end of the road wrote: »
    he did take the law into his own hands by commiting an act of cold blooded murder.........., and got off .

    Now you're looking even sillier.


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    #220
    Pedro K
    Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    end of the road wrote: »
    why would they. he's a danger, he can't be allowed a gun. he can't be trusted

    I'll ask again, since you didn't answer earlier. Who is Paidrag Nally a danger to?


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    #221
    Connemara Farmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭Connemara Farmer


    end of the road wrote: »
    yes, he got sympathy and got lucky. he's still a dangerous individual though. he wouldn't be the first dangerous individual to be acquited and won't be the last.

    Horse ****.

    I know Padraic for years, a more gentle man you'd get hard to find. He was driven to the end of his tether and broke.

    May it stay fine for you and you never go through what he had to.


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    #222
    Eutow
    Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Eutow


    end of the road wrote: »
    he did take the law into his own hands by commiting an act of cold blooded murder spauned by revenge. he got lucky, sympathy, and got off and away with it, all because of an overly sympathetic jury who all should never be able to serve on a jury again.


    Luckily, you are just some random poster with crazy opinions with no influence on Irish law. Anyway under Irish law, the jury can't serve again because there is a time limit to when they can, if at all.

    Edit: I consider you more of a danger to Irish society than Nally.


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    #223
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Elizabeth Beautiful Mutant wrote: »
    Get off his land to either get a weapon from the van or go and round up another shower of thugs to come back and kill Nally. Finishing him off is the reason Padraig Nally is still alive today.

    nally would be no loss either. both of them are scum.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #224
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    happysunnydays wrote: »
    True at the time of the interview, not true now!
    Since his acquittal he is entitled to his shotgun.
    the relevant authorities say otherwise. thankfully they have decided he is not entitled to his gun. thankfully i suspect that stance will remain

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #225
    happysunnydays
    Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭happysunnydays


    end of the road wrote: »
    ward died due to being murdered out of revenge by a dangerous out of control individual who got off due to the sympathy vote. the jury allowed a dangerous individual back into society which means questions should have been asked

    What sh*te talk!
    You know the man personally do you? You must be from Cross, Mayo so? I probably went to school with you.


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    #226
    Sociopath2
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    floggg wrote: »
    That argument really doesn't hold up. If that was his concern, killing him clearly didn't reduce the risk in any way, it increased it.

    If you want to argue he wasn't thinking that would be one thing, but the suggestion that was a reasonable course of action to reduce the risk of reprisals is absurd. However mad people tend to get when their family members are shot and injured, they get a whole lot worse if they die.

    He eliminated the immediate threat to him. Ward could no longer attack him, nor could he return inside a few minutes with a weapon or members of his gang who may have been waiting nearby. He was concerned with his immediate survival. Not doing so in an area that would not be reached quickly by gardai could have meant he was exposing himself to further danger. He was under extreme stress and without the knowledge we have of the situation.

    On a different level he made it very clear he would fight to the death to defend himself. That would send a clear message to anyone wishing to him harm that it may cost them their own lives to do so.


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    #227
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    RobYourBuilder wrote: »
    The deceased was a violent criminal, with 80 convictions and who had previously attacked Gardai twice with a slash hook. He was an alcoholic, a drug addict and he suffered from hearing voices in his head(schizophrenic?). He was a bare knuckle fighter who preyed on the elderly, robbed them and who beat them up after.

    Mr. Nally was a 60 something year old farmer who had never come to the attention of the Gardai beforehand. He was living in his shed, petrified, after being terrorised by the deceased for months. His house was burgled numerous times. Three elderly people in the immediate area had been tortured and murdered during such break ins. To say the man was petrified is somewhat of an understatement.

    For those saying that Mr. Nally was wrong on the night in question, I'd like them to put yourselves in Mr. Nallys shoes. You find the now deceased trying to break into your front door. You try and fend him off. He's much more powerful than you and won't stay down. You're scared for your life, you've been terrorised for months, you're afraid that the now deceased will return again and again. The Gardai have been utterly useless in protecting you.

    What would you do?
    i certainly wouldn't have bet him within an inch of his life with a stick once i had shot him once and he was barely able to walk, then shot him again and dumped his body over a wall, then told his son "your father won't be coming back" taking delight in that fact, playing poor me and looking for sympathy because i'm elderly

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #228
    happysunnydays
    Closed Accounts Posts: 247 ✭✭happysunnydays


    end of the road wrote: »
    the relevant authorities say otherwise. thankfully they have decided he is not entitled to his gun. thankfully i suspect that stance will remain

    You haven't a clue what you're talking. :D


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    #229
    Sociopath2
    Registered Users Posts: 242 ✭✭Sociopath2


    end of the road wrote: »
    got away with it out of sympathy by a sympathetic jury



    absolutely. this was no self defence. this was simple cold blooded murder spauned by revenge

    Just take that ****e and make it your signature. I'll save you having to repeat it in every post.


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    #230
    jimgoose
    Registered Users Posts: 20,178 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    end of the road wrote: »
    i certainly wouldn't have bet him within an inch of his life with a stick once i had shot him once and he was barely able to walk, then shot him again and dumped his body over a wall, then told his son "your father won't be coming back" taking delight in that fact, playing poor me and looking for sympathy because i'm elderly

    Have you ever been attacked? I put it to you that you're talking through your hole out of a form of "White Man's Guilt"-style misplaced empathy.


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    #231
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    Chemical Byrne wrote: »
    Nah, the aussies will just sentence them to transportation to Ireland.
    and we can boomerang them back to australia again

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #232
    Terrlock
    Registered Users Posts: 686 ✭✭✭Terrlock


    Ward was killed because he was a thug and a coward terrorizing vulnerable elderly people that he thought were weak.

    McNally, killed him out of self defense, because he was in fear of his life and all the other peoples lives that this thug was effecting. It in know way was an act out of revenge. It was an act out of self preservation.

    McNally stood up to him, and I have no doubt that his actions have saved the suffering of many other elderly people that would have been beaten, robbed and even killed by this individual.

    If you live by he sword, then prepare to die by the sword.


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    #233
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    end of the road wrote: »
    ward died due to being murdered out of revenge by a dangerous out of control individual who got off due to the sympathy vote. the jury allowed a dangerous individual back into society which means questions should have been asked

    The lads up at the Mart in Athenry shit themselves every time Nally brings up a few sucklers for sale I hear......


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    #234
    mikemac1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭mikemac1


    end of the road wrote: »
    he did take the law into his own hands by commiting an act of cold blooded murder spauned by revenge. he got lucky, sympathy, and got off and away with it, all because of an overly sympathetic jury who all should never be able to serve on a jury again.

    Fail

    You don't know the difference between murder and manslaughter.

    He was never charged with murder and if he was first time he would have walked


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    #235
    Pedro K
    Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭Pedro K


    End of the road, are you going to answer my question RE your earlier post?

    Who is Nally a danger to?

    You also didn't answer another poster who asked what you would do in Nally's situation.


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    #236
    Sofiztikated
    Registered Users Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Pedro K wrote: »
    End of the road, are you going to answer my question RE your earlier post?

    Who is Nally a danger to?

    You also didn't answer another poster who asked what you would do in Nally's situation.

    He won't.


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    #237
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    bcklschaps wrote: »
    Just shocking that this decent auld skin is getting terrorized again.

    decent auld skin me arse
    bcklschaps wrote: »
    I think that if he 'wasted' a few more gangsters .. nobody would shed a tear for them... and no judge in the country would convict him either.

    i wouldn't be so sure.
    bcklschaps wrote: »
    Then maybe these thugs would learn that its not OK to trespass and rob stuff from peoples properties.

    they wouldn't. that sort of nonsense doesn't work. if you don't realize its not okay to rob a house nothing will make you realize it.
    bcklschaps wrote: »
    If they tried this in any of the southern states of USA or places like South Africa ... the owner would blast them straight to hell .. and worry about the consequences later. (and there would be absolutely zero consequences..Home/property owner has all the rights)

    well, we don't live in those sespits where gunhoe loonies run riot

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #238
    SEPT 23 1989
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    Nally is a national treasure


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    #239
    jimgoose
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    end of the road wrote: »
    ...well, we don't live in those sespits where gunhoe loonies run riot

    I wouldn't count on it. The South will rise agin! :)


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    #240
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    cerastes wrote: »
    Ward should have considered this before terrorising an old man? if more thought they might end up shot, it might end.

    no . that doesn't work
    cerastes wrote: »
    Not sure of where Nally was in relation to the attackers, but he should have waited till they became a threat in his home, warn them and if using the only item capable of defending against 3 men? fire a warning shot, if they proceed, then open up at close range so whoever was there was not wounded, self defence.

    yeah, that would be classed as self defence, and i think me and others with my opinion would have some sympathy for him
    cerastes wrote: »
    where does it end? Locked up and the key thrown away is too good for them and costs us.[/quote

    it doesn't cost us that much. its worth it.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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    #241
    end of the road
    Registered Users Posts: 29,037 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    jungleman wrote: »
    I always wonder why Criminal Assets Bureau don't investigate that.
    because it would cost to much and would take up to much time. its not worth the bother. CAB will get what they can get to but that isn't much.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



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