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Alf Veedersane

caviardreams wrote: »

Simone Biles is some athlete.

Her trophy cabinet must be worth more than Fort Knox at this stage

will56

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Her trophy cabinet must be worth more than Fort Knox at this stage

https://moneynation.com/simone-biles-net-worth/

Got my Argos stuff. Picked up a Cable Crossover machine, decent bench (or so it seems), standard 6' bar, standard EZ bar (but neither are spinlock, which is what I was looking for, as I loathe spinlock!), and also have a pair of 5kg and 10kg hex bells I got online. Picked up 2 weight trees that i posted about before too (one for olympic plates and one for standard ones). Picked up the extra floor mats I needed, too.

I have the roof off my concrete shed and will do some more damage to it tomorrow. The crowd making my bigger wooden shed gave me a thumbs up to let me know it's built and ready for delivery, and now all I have to do is get the walls of the concrete shed into the ground and I'm good to go. (well, have to order sheets to re-enforce the floor, too, but that'll be a tuesday or wednesday job).


All going well I should have a decent home gym with a cable machine by the end of the week. Always wanted a cable machine. I think they're class. Needless to say I'll probably only use it twice before forgetting it even exists, but i'm still excited anyway!!

Alf Veedersane

Powerlift 2s for sale at 63 again if anyone is interested

http://www.adidasspecialtysports.ie/listing/weightlifting-sale

Mellor

Random questions that don't deserve new threads:


Cryotherapy
What's the consensus on this latest fitness craze popping up?
The claims centre around the idea that it helps speed up recovery, like a super charged Ice bath. And also that the sub-zero exposure (−140°c) ramps up metabolism in the short term. (I understand that metabolic rate increases with cold exposure, but I'm not convinced that the quote figures are accurate).

Has anybody tried it?

There was something else too. Will add when I think of it


Runners

My current runners are about to fall apart. They are saucony lightweight miniums. Really liked them, looking for something similar. Lightweight, minimal drop. These will mostly be for treadmill/road running/Concept2 type sessions. Other training has its own footwear.
Had a quick look at the weekend and the Reebok Crossfit Nanos stood out. Whats the general opinion on them. Some people would be put off by the fact that they say crossfit. Seems silly.
See the Reebok pumps are back out too. Never had them as a kid. Probably heavier than I'm looking for.

caviardreams

Mellor wrote: »

Random questions that don't deserve new threads:


Cryotherapy
What's the consensus on this latest fitness craze popping up?

After some sessions, I definitely feel like a good cry - very therapeutic!


Runners - I used to have a pair of Nike Metcons - found them good for general stuff.

Alf Veedersane

I think cryotherapy is one of those things where there is more practice behind it than there are studies on it.

It makes sense that the blood rushes to the core and as a consequence it reduces inflammation etc in arms, legs and anything relatively close to the surface in your torso but for metabolism, I wouldn't be convinced.

granty1987

I have a pair of Nano 2.0's and love them for the gym but am not their biggest fan for running long distance in. My ankles aren't what you'd call structurally sound and I have flat arches but I find the nano's do not support them much. It could just be me but id really notice the difference when compared to my football boots in ankle discomfort levels

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I think cryotherapy is one of those things where there is more practice behind it than there are studies on it.

It makes sense that the blood rushes to the core and as a consequence it reduces inflammation etc in arms, legs and anything relatively close to the surface in your torso but for metabolism, I wouldn't be convinced.

I'm happy to try it out on the basis of anecdotal evidence. But a lot of the source I've read are unreliable, to put it mildly.

I can definitely see how it burns some energy. Any any heat taken from the body, is the same as using energy. But they quote 500-800 cals? Which sounds ridiculous. So I'm not convinced.

A 2 degree drop in core temp would see you on the edges of hypothermia and requires only 150cals to recover (assuming 75kg BW). But there's no way it penetrates that deep. On the other hand skin temp drop 10+ degrees. That's a bit harder to work out the mass.

To be fair, too long in the cryochamber can kill you. And its of the order of minutes.

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

I'm happy to try it out on the basis of anecdotal evidence. But a lot of the source I've read are unreliable, to put it mildly.

I can definitely see how it burns some energy. Any any heat taken from the body, is the same as using energy. But they quote 500-800 cals? Which sounds ridiculous. So I'm not convinced.

A 2 degree drop in core temp would see you on the edges of hypothermia and requires only 150cals to recover (assuming 75kg BW). But there's no way it penetrates that deep. On the other hand skin temp drop 10+ degrees. That's a bit harder to work out the mass.

To be fair, too long in the cryochamber can kill you. And its of the order of minutes.

This is it. There doesn't seem to be too much in the the way of study into the actual impact in inflammation so I've found that leaves its efficacy open to question.

I have to admit, I haven't seen it's impact on metabolism or calories burned mentioned or I've missed it. I wouldn't have thought that would be a selling point...or rather I'd question why it was being used a selling point.

TheSegal

Friend of mine is looking to buy some canvas to make homemade sandbags to train with. Anyone have any recommendations for him where to get it? Every search online seems to result in handbags!

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I wouldn't have thought that would be a selling point...or rather I'd question why it was being used a selling point.

A 3 min treatment that can cause you a latent burn of 500-800calories. That's a pretty obvious selling point to me tbh. The weight loss market is huge.
Obviously pitch the recovery angle and target athletes too.

It definitely burns energy (law of thermodynamics etc). The question is how much? I would have thought that's an obvious area of study.

Alf Veedersane

Mellor wrote: »

A 3 min treatment that can cause you a latent burn of 500-800calories. That's a pretty obvious selling point to me tbh. The weight loss market is huge.

I know what you're saying but what I was saying is that it takes it into a whole other realm then...the realm of fat burning supplements and power plates.

But yeah, you could sign up a load of people that want a quick fix and who will happily pay for it.

ford2600

Mellor wrote: »

A 3 min treatment that can cause you a latent burn of 500-800calories. That's a pretty obvious selling point to me tbh. The weight loss market is huge.
Obviously pitch the recovery angle and target athletes too.

It definitely burns energy (law of thermodynamics etc). The question is how much? I would have thought that's an obvious area of study.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/12/151203135832.htm

Study on mice and exposure to cool temperatures over prolonged period and it's effect on gut microbes.

Along way from minus 100 or whatever though.

I've done a bit of playing around with cold adaptation(cold showers, full immersion in cold ocean etc), but I would view it similarily to meditation/fasting etc; it'll provide benefits to certain people but others will find none.

rubadub

Mellor wrote: »

It definitely burns energy (law of thermodynamics etc). The question is how much? I would have thought that's an obvious area of study.

Some anorexics take cold baths to use up calories, not to say it is significant but there might be info or studies linked on "pro ana" sites.

Another one to search would be sea swimming. I remember watching some program of a lad doing a channel swim or something, and they estimated he was going to lose x kg of fat during it. I can't remember the figure but I was shocked, and it was certainly a lot more than he would be lost due to the exercise of swimming, i.e. had it been that distance in a heated pool.

Mellor

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

A 3 min treatment that can cause you a latent burn of 500-800calories. That's a pretty obvious selling point to me tbh. The weight loss market is huge.

I know what you're saying but what I was saying is that it takes it into a whole other realm then...the realm of fat burning supplements and power plates.

But yeah, you could sign up a load of people that want a quick fix and who will happily pay for it.

That that what I meant, people want the easy option.

Altough fat burning pills burn next to nothing. Cold exposure definitively burns some.
But you'd have to be doing it all the time to have effect.

deadlybuzzman

In one of her podcasts didnt rhonda patrick mention a study that measured the biological effect of being exposed to the cold on an on going basis?
It was cold as in an Irish winter, as opposed to a bad day in Antarctica, so it's not exactly like for like but maybe someone else on here has a clearer recollection of what she said

caviardreams

This conversation has me thinking of "come back with a 6-pack" holidays to the arctic circle

If I eat a mars bar whilst I'm sitting in the fridge it doesn't count, right?

ford2600

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

In one of her podcasts didnt rhonda patrick mention a study that measured the biological effect of being exposed to the cold on an on going basis?
It was cold as in an Irish winter, as opposed to a bad day in Antarctica, so it's not exactly like for like but maybe someone else on here has a clearer recollection of what she said

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ie/2013/08/more-thoughts-on-cold-training-biology.html


Former SAS man takes in to a new level:)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557610/North-Pole-swimmers-unique-body-heat-trick.html

deadlybuzzman

ford2600 wrote: »

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.ie/2013/08/more-thoughts-on-cold-training-biology.html


Former SAS man takes in to a new level:)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1557610/North-Pole-swimmers-unique-body-heat-trick.html

The brown fat thermogenesis thing rings a bell. The only thing is, surely after so many tens of thousands of years of living in Europe, surely there's some survival mechanism that kicks in.
Maybe at first you're more inclined to burn subdermal fat, but as it's your body's only insulation against the cold it wouldn't be a surprise to find out that chronic cold exposure leads to an increased rate of putting down fat under the skin.
Ever seen an Eskimo with a 6 pack?!

caviardreams

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Ever seen an Eskimo with a 6 pack?!

It's from eating all them penguin bars, innit.

Mellor

Was gonna give the cryochamber a go today.
But is was cold this morning, so got a haircut instead. The barber pulled out a hot towel to do the beard. I made the right decision.

Jimmy Iovine

I watched this video a few months ago which kind of changed my opinion on icing in general. I remember RICE being the ONLY go to when I injured myself when I was younger. I fell hard on my ankle once and the manager said RICE. Looking back, I did the R, I and E parts and left out C.

http://www.mobilitywod.com/propreview/people-weve-got-to-stop-icing-injuries-we-were-wrong-sooo-wrong-community-video/

There is lots of very interesting information in there. I think Kelly said it was the most divisive topic he has ever posted about and the only video he has had to disable the comments for :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UmJVgEWZu4

Alf Veedersane

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I watched this video a few months ago which kind of changed my opinion on icing in general.

I was a it disappointed when it wasn't about cake.

gymfreak

New toy in the gym...it's actually way harder than it looks!:eek:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BJf9FjcANUy/?taken-by=86gymfreak

Jimmy Iovine

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I was a it disappointed when it wasn't about cake.

I've always hated icing on cakes. Full chocolate cake or nothing.

Mellor

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I was a it disappointed when it wasn't about cake.

I've always hated icing on cakes. Full chocolate cake or nothing.

Surely full chocolate includes chocolate icing? Or else it's just a crap bit of sponge.

Caliden

gymfreak wrote: »

New toy in the gym...it's actually way harder than it looks!:eek:

I'm going to guess that you're right handed?

Mellor

gymfreak wrote: »

New toy in the gym...it's actually way harder than it looks!:eek:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BJf9FjcANUy/?taken-by=86gymfreak

I've always wanted to try one of those. I don't think it looks easy at all.

dastardly00

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I've always hated icing on cakes. Full chocolate cake or nothing.

Buttercream icing is amazing.

Butter and sugar... What's not to love!