Squats the Story MkII- Off topic thread

Mr. CooL ICE

Finished earlier than usual today so gave serrano pressing a go with 2kg DBs. Holy jaysus. 1kg it is for next time.

Some videos do it one arm at a time, but I tried with both arms. Is one arm better?

Hanley

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Finished earlier than usual today so gave serrano pressing a go with 2kg DBs. Holy jaysus. 1kg it is for next time.

Some videos do it one arm at a time, but I tried with both arms. Is one arm better?

I've seen Serrano show both. Could argue one arm at a time is more functional I guess.

Nonsense question: If you're doing deadlifts, and you're lifting heavy (and i realise heavy varies from person to person, for me just starting, its 115kg), are you 'allowed' to deadlift slow? or is that a sign that you're lifting weight that's just too heavy for you?


Normally when I think of deadlifting, and when i've done it before, i always picture a swift, quick lift. No struggle, no sluggish lift etc. but tonight, at 115kg i was lifting slowly. I still did 5 reps (admittedly not with a lightning fast pace, as i did stop for a moment or so between each lift) but Im wondering is that generally a sign to lower the weight and try to build up to that, using faster, swifter lifts?

Mellor

Deleted User wrote: »

Normally when I think of deadlifting, and when i've done it before, i always picture a swift, quick lift. No struggle,

You should always be lifitng as fast as possible. But at times it's not possible to lift fast. The closer you go towards max effort the slower it will be. A truely max single could take 7 seconds or more.

Swift fast deadlifts are really "speed deadlifts" which is a specific exercise, preformed at a much lower load.

whippet

Mellor wrote: »

You should always be lifitng as fast as possible. But at times it's not possible to lift fast. The closer you go towards max effort the slower it will be. A truely max single could take 7 seconds or more.

Swift fast deadlifts are really "speed deadlifts" which is a specific exercise, preformed at a much lower load.

7 seconds holding on to my max deadlift would ensure i'd have no skin left on the palms of my hand !!!

I have always been thought that speed in the deadlift is key, pull 60kg just like you would 260kg and aim to get it up as quick as possible. But as said before when you are close to your max it will become much slower for obvious reasons.

Mr. CooL ICE

Deleted User wrote: »

Nonsense question: If you're doing deadlifts, and you're lifting heavy (and i realise heavy varies from person to person, for me just starting, its 115kg), are you 'allowed' to deadlift slow? or is that a sign that you're lifting weight that's just too heavy for you?


Normally when I think of deadlifting, and when i've done it before, i always picture a swift, quick lift. No struggle, no sluggish lift etc. but tonight, at 115kg i was lifting slowly. I still did 5 reps (admittedly not with a lightning fast pace, as i did stop for a moment or so between each lift) but Im wondering is that generally a sign to lower the weight and try to build up to that, using faster, swifter lifts?

Depends on many things, including the program you're using before considering lowering the weight. If your form is fine, then the weight is probably fine. But if it's breaking down (back rounding, hips shooting up before the barbell leaves the ground, etc) then maybe you are lifting too heavy.

Mellor

whippet wrote: »

7 seconds holding on to my max deadlift would ensure i'd have no skin left on the palms of my hand !!!

I have always been thought that speed in the deadlift is key, pull 60kg just like you would 260kg and aim to get it up as quick as possible. But as said before when you are close to your max it will become much slower for obvious reasons.

I find that holding the bar in the base of your fingers doesn't rip the skin as much as holding in the palms. Even on long reps. Ive had to grind out 7 second reps in the past. If I fail it's probably because I can't lift it, not because I can't hold it.
I always try to lift fast, but max efforts are simply not snappy

Cheers for the replies guys.


I'll stick with my 115kg so. My attitude/theory is that the ould body will learn to adapt fairly swiftly, anyway, and I'll be movin' on up. No point lifting 70kg if i can do 115kg (although admittedly when im deadlifting i do work up the weight a bit, and start with a lighter weight for the sake of getting in the rhythm of actually going through the motion with proper form).

I'm not really doing a programme as such. Kinda 5x5 with a makey-uppy approach. I don't want a set programe cos, although progress will be more obvious and marked, it'll feel like too much work. At the moment it's free and easy and i'm dipping in 2-3 times a week at my leisure.

Jimmy Iovine

Guess who's back, back again...



Not my image. I found it on Instagram. Great picture.

Dtp1979

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

Guess who's back, back again...



Not my image. I found it on Instagram. Great picture.

He looks bigger. Looks like he's training in a much better facility too

DylanJM

Dtp1979 wrote: »

He looks bigger. Looks like he's training in a much better facility too

That's the CSP gym in Bray.

WHIP IT!

Genuine Question: What would be the advantages (if any) of Leg Pressing using the Smith Machine (ie, lying flat on your back on floor, pressing the loaded bar directly above you with your feet) as opposed to using the actual Leg Press Machine?

Hanley

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Genuine Question: What would be the advantages (if any) of Leg Pressing using the Smith Machine (ie, lying flat on your back on floor, pressing the loaded bar directly above you with your feet) as opposed to using the actual Leg Press Machine?

Nope

WHIP IT!

Hanley wrote: »

Nope

As in Nope there's no advantage? As in the guy should have just used the (free) leg press machine stationed about four yards away from the Smith Machine? Thought so...

Mellor

WHIP IT! wrote: »

As in Nope there's no advantage? As in the guy should have just used the (free) leg press machine stationed about four yards away from the Smith Machine? Thought so...

No advantage doesn't mean no difference.

100kg on the smith machine requires a lift of 100kg.
100kg on the leg press doesn't

Zillah

Flyefit Harrington St is pretty great. It's like a much roomier George's St. There are two of the big double cable machines, loads of room around the squat racks, loads of room in the free weight section. Everything is new and shiny.

Couple of growing pains issues: no bike racks outside, though you can use the railings. There aren't any water fountains from which to fill a bottle - they're all the "take a sip" kind, which is a pretty crazy oversight. I asked a member of staff about it and it seemed like it was the first time anyone had even thought it it: he went off to other staff nearby and I heard him say "We need water fountains!" as I passed.

Men's locker room is quite cramped, bit of a warren, but you can live with that.

Has anyone ever heard of www.hifi-tower.ie/ ?

They have a gym section.. and the stuff doesn't exactly seem unreasonable (I'm looking at the pulldown tower).

Reps4jesus

Zillah wrote: »

Flyefit Harrington St is pretty great. It's like a much roomier George's St. There are two of the big double cable machines, loads of room around the squat racks, loads of room in the free weight section. Everything is new and shiny.

Couple of growing pains issues: no bike racks outside, though you can use the railings. There aren't any water fountains from which to fill a bottle - they're all the "take a sip" kind, which is a pretty crazy oversight. I asked a member of staff about it and it seemed like it was the first time anyone had even thought it it: he went off to other staff nearby and I heard him say "We need water fountains!" as I passed.

Men's locker room is quite cramped, bit of a warren, but you can live with that.

Are all of the bars the skinny 15kg ones like georges st or do they have some of the thicker ones too? I dont know if its just in my head or what but i hate those bars for squatting with

Zillah

I didn't actually do olympic stuff yesterday so I didn't use any of the bars - I'll probably be up this evening if no one else has answered you yet.

gymfreak

For the first time EVER I'm actually actively trying to put on weight/muscle :eek::eek:

This is going to be incredibly interesting....especially since I'm female and will probably start moaning the minute I gain weight:pac::pac: Going to properly put in a 8-12 week effort tho:cool:

Hanley

gymfreak wrote: »

For the first time EVER I'm actually actively trying to put on weight/muscle :eek::eek:

This is going to be incredibly interesting....especially since I'm female and will probably start moaning the minute I gain weight:pac::pac: Going to properly put in a 8-12 week effort tho:cool:

You were due to move up a weight class!

gymfreak

Hanley wrote: »

You were due to move up a weight class!

Wow wow wow...lets not get ahead of ourselves:pac::pac: That'll take another year before Im convinced. Have to fill out my own weightclass first:pac:

Jimmy Iovine

From Facebook:

Clarence Kennedy
28 mins ·
Here's the video of my training session at CSP gym in Bray last Thursday:
https://youtu.be/SW1IHQzua6k
15 attempts with 186kg! No misses up to 180kg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1IHQzua6k

It has been up for 30 minutes and there are 85 comments on it already. It's fair to say Clarence has a following.

I also love the polite applause at 180kg.

Alf Veedersane

He probably just needs to replace the battery in his watch. Working watch -> 186....and probably 192.

Zillah

Reps4jesus wrote: »

Are all of the bars the skinny 15kg ones like georges st or do they have some of the thicker ones too? I dont know if its just in my head or what but i hate those bars for squatting with

They seem to be the fatter ones. Proper Olympic bars with smooth bearings.

Jimmy Iovine

A comment under the video. I am off to Argos tomorrow...

LuckyLloyd

edit: my pony is DOA

Dtp1979

So 187 is the Olympic record @94kg.
Why didn't he just got for 187?

Jimmy Iovine

Dtp1979 wrote: »

So 187 is the Olympic record @94kg.
Why didn't he just got for 187?

His BW is 99-100kg atm according to the video.

Also, he has previously lifted185kg. Maybe he's just not bothered going for 187kg.

Alf Veedersane

Dtp1979 wrote: »

So 187 is the Olympic record @94kg.
Why didn't he just got for 187?

Because he's not in the Olympics and his PR is 185.