LC2011 (Design and communication graphics) - do NOT post images of exam material

WeightierDisc

Right lads, just got the auld brief for the Higher level project there and I'm just wondering what kinda things you's were plannin on addin on (modifications etc......) ? Share the wealth!

ozzz

Whats the brief?

ajjmk

I thought the brief wasnt sent out until Halloween-ish? That was the case last year anyways!:(

Dafydd Thomas

They changed it this year to now. Way better. I was under so much pressure last year.

blacklionboy

so what is it this year?

Qwerty?

blacklionboy wrote: »

so what is it this year?

Sat Nav for HL and USB Key for OL.

like a ninja

ur joking me that they gave out the projects tis early(an extra 2 months then us last year) feckers,we were strapped for time last year spending nites in scholl till 8 some nites bt the craic wit te lads was great and our teacher was a legend bt i gt a a2 any way.:cool:

bit of advice wit the project try to get inspiration from some thing and develope around it CONCEPT worked for me, the boys in SEC love it:pac:

randylonghorn

like a ninja wrote: »

ur joking me that they gave out the projects tis early(an extra 2 months then us last year) feckers,we were strapped for time last year spending nites in scholl till 8 some nites bt the craic wit te lads was great and our teacher was a legend bt i gt a a2 any way.:cool:

bit of advice wit the project try to get inspiration from some thing and develope around it CONCEPT worked for me, the boys in SEC love it:pac:

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Qwerty?

like a ninja wrote: »

ur joking me that they gave out the projects tis early(an extra 2 months then us last year)

Deadline is now 15th Jan but considering Christmas Holidays are until the 10th Jan you might as well say deadline Dec 22nd.

like a ninja

oh rite sorry about that

Good idea from experience is to get stuck into the project straight away,do a kind of draft at home.trust me makes it a way easier and dont leave it to the last minute,it can get very stressful towards the deadline and back up your information!!!

its wroth in the end the day ,40 pts

Dafydd Thomas

Your best off getting it done before christmas. Make sure you practice sketching asap. I'd imagine it would be difficult to make a SatNav look good as they are so simple in design. An unusual choice.

Here is some advice I would loved to have known while doing the project. All the material you do for Microsoft Word does NOT go onto the digital file at the end of the project, therefore the department doesn't know if you've done it in school or not. So after you have all your research done and the general layout of your project worked out, you should concentrate on only doing solidworks in school. Also, in solidworks you have to name every modification, every part, every chamfer, fillet, blah blah blah. i.e fillet to round the edges of the front face. I was only told this after I was finished solidworks and had to rename everything. Make sure you name everything before copying the artefact for modifications. Otherwise everything has to be named twice. Good luck.

Conor108

I was awful at DCG and this project was the bane of my life last year. Usually people put up insanely good renders of their projects on boards so I'll look forward to that:)

johnmcdnl

Sat nav sounds pretty handy tbh

but for a design modification god love ye - give it robotic legs so it can dance to entertain you when it guides you into bad traffic...

or put a radio or cd player in it :pac: i dunno...

that's an easy one to design but the research is going to be hard seeing as there only about 5-10 years old max... not a whole lot of change since they came out either so...

I can't see what modification you could really do tbh

Lmao_Man

Have a quick question :

Let's say for the history part,could you all that on computer and print it out (not from a school computer) ? Or do you have to give them that file and could they see it wasn't made from the school computer ?

coxy 132

i also starting do this project
where the best place of history?

OldSchool94

coxy 132 wrote: »

i also starting do this project
where the best place of history?

What I've done is go back as far as the time with compass's ,maps,sextants etc and build a timeline from there up as far as the sat nav

Lmao_Man

Lmao_Man wrote: »

Have a quick question :

Let's say for the history part,could you all that on computer and print it out (not from a school computer) ? Or do you have to give them that file and could they see it wasn't made from the school computer ?

Anyone ?

Rich1691

You would definetly be better off having it done before christmas even if it does eat into your study for christmas exams. Last year there were some late nights in the school working on the project and it was eating into my time to study for the Pres (Mocks) which were in a week so as others have been saying, get straight into the project and try and complete it as soon as you can!

Good luck with it!
Rich

Holysock

You're all so lucky to have the brief early this year!The deadline right before the mocks last year caused me nightmares! It's worth doing right though,and early because people tend to not realise how long the sketching is going to take.which is ages. I failed the mocks dreadfully purely on my drawing. and then got an A2 in the real thing,definatly due to my project.Rant over.Good luck with it everyone!

Lmao_Man wrote: »

Let's say for the history part,could you all that on computer and print it out (not from a school computer) ? Or do you have to give them that file and could they see it wasn't made from the school computer ?

You have to print out everything in a portfolio and give a scanned copy of it, you don't have to give them any files of writing, only solidwork and drawing files.Don't know if thats the answer to you're question sorry!

Dafydd Thomas

I think this project is much harder than what we had last year. SatNav's are much simpler than game controllers, which makes them harder to talk about. Although they are easier to design it'll be harder to pick up marks in the solidworks section as there are very little parts as most are touch screen.

Dafydd Thomas

Lmao_Man wrote: »

Anyone ?

You can do that anywhere as they don't require the files. However I don't see why you can't just do it at home and bring it into school via your USB and print it from there. Make sure they haven't changed the system first though.

Geard

Would someone please put up the text of the actual breif please!!!

bertie4evr

Brief

Geard

Thanks

LcLk

Lmao_Man wrote: »

Have a quick question :

Let's say for the history part,could you all that on computer and print it out (not from a school computer) ? Or do you have to give them that file and could they see it wasn't made from the school computer ?

You should do the actual solidworks parts and assemblies in school, but for the rest of the project, like the histroy and other written parts you do have to give them a digital copy of it but in pdf format. You can do that part at home in say ms word as long as you convert it to pdf in school using a different program, that way they can't trace you, and I'm pretty sure they don't really care anyway, I did a lot of solidworks at home last year and I know people who even shared computers on which they did the solidworks...

Best of luck to all you people with the project, I'd advise you to include in the history of the sat nav maybe how it works, satellites etc...
and for the modification part say you were inspired by an every day object, say a watch or cd player and work from there.

Also everyone who did their project last year should maybe upload thumbnails of their work to give everyone some guidelines ?

joyle

yes some thumbnails would be very helpful!!

should we include history because it doesnt say it in the brief?

Dafydd Thomas

Here is mine from last year. Hope this helps

joyle

Dafydd Thomas wrote: »

Here is mine from last year. Hope this helps

what did you get if u dont mind me askin?

b984jf93h

It would be good if people posted (pictures of their) ideas for the project on this. I think it's the toughest one yet - it doesn't leave too much room for creativity - but I'm looking forward to the challenge of it.

Dafydd Thomas

joyle wrote: »

what did you get if u dont mind me askin?

I was graded an A1 in school for the project. I suck at the TD side and got B3 in the LC, I though I got a C3 so my project was definitely an A.

gowayuwilya

LcLk wrote: »

You should do the actual solidworks parts and assemblies in school, but for the rest of the project, like the histroy and other written parts you do have to give them a digital copy of it but in pdf format. You can do that part at home in say ms word as long as you convert it to pdf in school using a different program, that way they can't trace you, and I'm pretty sure they don't really care anyway, I did a lot of solidworks at home last year and I know people who even shared computers on which they did the solidworks...

Best of luck to all you people with the project, I'd advise you to include in the history of the sat nav maybe how it works, satellites etc...
and for the modification part say you were inspired by an every day object, say a watch or cd player and work from there.

Also everyone who did their project last year should maybe upload thumbnails of their work to give everyone some guidelines ?

Im pretty sure they do care...whatever about telling other posters its ok to do design/research n mod research at home please DO NOT tell them its ok to do solidworks at home,you will be lose marks..trust me!I have an image of completed sat nav(draft) and will post up whenever I get priveliges to do so.Best of luck to all and even if the sat nav seems easier than last years controller remember the devil(marks) are in the detail.

Dafydd Thomas

gowayuwilya wrote: »

Im pretty sure they do care...whatever about telling other posters its ok to do design/research n mod research at home please DO NOT tell them its ok to do solidworks at home,you will be lose marks..trust me!I have an image of completed sat nav(draft) and will post up whenever I get priveliges to do so.Best of luck to all and even if the sat nav seems easier than last years controller remember the devil(marks) are in the detail.

Definitely DON'T do Solidworks at home. If you want practice at home and re-do it in school.

Dragonmanirl

Im sitting here with a Sat nav in sort of pieces "i.e he cover off and screen out" to create the 5 parts needed for the brief, but im curious, is anybody willing to rip their sat nav into complete seperate parts in order to visualise parts?

Dragon

Stevo93

does anyone know how to get solidworks for free to practise at home?

Im in LC year and was in the class last year but our teacher was brutal. He never should us how to do anything both solidworks or board drawing. We now have a new teacher straight from college so I hope we can cover the two year course this year.

Thanks for the information provided so far.

Dragonmanirl

@stevo93 ask your old teacher or your new teacher for the Student Design kit, i have that from my school and it really helps alhough im in Lc too were only starting solidworks this week >_<

surfergirl92

So,what do ye make of the honours brief?Why couldnt they have given us an mp3 player or a phone,something out long enough to get the evolution of it..oh well!

Sean-Tom

Any idea if we have to go into much detail with internal parts (wires, chips etc..) or just the main external components.

Dragonmanirl

@ Sean-tom, My dcg teacher says all you need is the case (back and front) the screen, the chipboard (without wires) speaker and mount simple enough! The brief says "min 5 parts" so any 5

Sean-Tom

Thanks Dragonmanirl

kirkfx

Whats the brief, i did honours DCG for the leaving last year, (and got an A1) but im curious as to what this years one is!!

NotExactly

kirkfx wrote: »

Whats the brief, i did honours DCG for the leaving last year, (and got an A1) but im curious as to what this years one is!!

http://www.t4.ie/DCG_Documents/DCG%20Student%20Assignment%202011(EV).pdf

That's the brief.

TomJoe Wallace

OH MAN.. YOU SERIOUS.. I remember the lads in my class were runnin' scarce on time cause we got our brief really late into the year!
However.. I did all my work when needed be and got a B2

Tonyyy17

Im after starting the brief today and i dont no where too start... can anyone put me in the right direction?

Cheerz in advance

TomJoe Wallace

Well hey the first thing you have to do is to get the history..

So just research on google or in shops if you're really assed getting up and going out to do so.
And find out all you can about sat navs.
History, Different Types, How they were made, How they advanced throughout the years.

That's your first step.
In your first 2 pages make it all about a timeline of Sat Navs.
And don't make it just pictures and a block of text.
Give each picture it's own story. It's much more appealing.
That's with I did with the controllers last year and got an A in my project.

I don't see how it's much different

J_E

I'm a bit disappointed at how limited the scope of the project is but I'm sure I'll come up with something. Gonna get cracking and hopefully have timeline/research done over the weekend.

sligo.

f**k this project!! i got an A in junior cert TG and i'm good at the LC drawing but the computers?!! do the parts have to be extremely fancy? like if the front, back, screen etc. fits in place must you do more than fillet the objects?:p cause im good at that;)ha! im expert at art so ill fly the sketches, p.folio shoulsnt be too hard:)

J_E

I'm actually racking my brains on how I could try change an unchanged design for 10 years or more. How much can you change a box with a screen and buttons? It's a tried and tested formula and you lose function when you muck about with it too much.

Rich1691

I just cant see where you can find 5 parts from a sat nav...unless u start doing the internal features but i dont think that's what they are really looking for.

TomJoe Wallace

The thing itself could be 1 part.
Then every different button.
1 part.

I had 15 Parts on my PS3 controller last year ! ;P

eskimoparty

Mare your parts from the bracket. pick a simple sat nav and go to town on the bracket. Read the brief carefully and you'll see thats really what they are looking for. Try ebay for ideas, there'll be loads.

http://shop.ebay.ie/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=sat+nav+bracket

Dragonmanirl

@Rich1691 from what i found through dismantling a sat nav, there's the screen, the care halves, the chipboard, the battery and speakers, and then the mount can be split in to two pieces as seperate parts, so it seems simple enough! use your mind