Is Mayo becoming a no-go area?

gurramok

All these violent incidents in a week! (without a Shell protest )

First we had the Kiltimagh stabbing murder.http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0812/mayo.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0708/marrinanc.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0611/mayo.html

Then today this, 4 people viscously attacked in a remote town(http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0816/ballinrobe.html). You'd maybe expect this in a large city but Ballinrobe, where is that?!

Wtf is going on there?

galwayrush

Mayo, taking over from Limerick, Stab County.

Gear9992

This is a sign that the sheep have finally started to take over in mayo :eek:

Coriolanus

As far as I'm concerned, it was always a no-go area.

Whosbetter?

Signs are that this situation mayo get worse.

Since when is Mayo not a no go area. The amount of crap you see in a weekly basis there is unreal but every other county in Ireland is the same. Mayo is no more dangerous than any where else.

Shacklebolt

Ballinrobe is the town where the bull ran around the supervalue. Its actually a very rough town and it doesnt surpise me that stabbings have now occurred there. Also you forgot about the Westport guard getting stabbed.

mickdw

Ah, mayo is about the safest place in Ireland Id say. We probably wont see another stabbing for 20 years.

gurramok

Shacklebolt wrote: »

Ballinrobe is the town where the bull ran around the supervalue. Its actually a very rough town and it doesnt surpise me that stabbings have now occurred there. Also you forgot about the Westport guard getting stabbed.

ROFL.

Even the animals run amok!!

Yeh, i forgot about the Westport garda. Why Mayo though?

It's so remote you'd expect it to be a peace loving respectable county?!

GhostInTheRuins

Deleted User wrote: »

Since when is Mayo not a no go area. The amount of crap you see in a weekly basis there is unreal but every other county in Ireland is the same. Mayo is no more dangerous than any where else.

So in essence you're saying that everywhere is a no-go area?

ejmaztec

Everywhere's a no-go area now.:eek: Never leave home without your designated blood donor for the instant transfusion you'll need when someone accuses you of giving em a funny look in a supermarket car-park.

GhostInTheRuins

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

So in essence you're saying that everywhere is a no-go area?

Pretty much. We would all be better off staying at home and wrapping up in front of a fire. We need the Citizen to clean up our streets before we venture out again.

Being serious though, a few isolated incidents of violence and the news media blows it completely out of proportion. People get stabbed every day and some die, it happens all over the country. I remember a few years back a guy from my school got stabbed and there was no real coverage, the saddest thing about the incident was that the stabber missed all vital arteries. The victim was a scumbag dealer who had started the whole thing and the little coverage it did get painted him as an innocent upstanding pillar od society.

Alessandra

Violence on this scale never usually happens down here. It's part of a worrying trend in Ireland in general.
Worryingly the wrong types will now think everyone is carrying knives and hence arm themselves before going out. Maybe these are copycat attacks given the publicity?
You would have to be a real scumbag to bring a knife on a night out:(

Mr Benevolent

Other countries are much worse. I do believe that trainee journalists are foisted on AH in order to create as much panic as possible. It's utterly illogical to even suggest Mayo as a no-go area. Dublin has by far the... ah screw it, no-one believes anything except what the media says anyway. Journalists will be the first against the wall, I assure you.

Yeah it's a no-go area, all hail the morons of journalism.

gurramok

Confab wrote: »

Other countries are much worse. I do believe that trainee journalists are foisted on AH in order to create as much panic as possible. It's utterly illogical to even suggest Mayo as a no-go area. Dublin has by far the... ah screw it, no-one believes anything except what the media says anyway. Journalists will be the first against the wall, I assure you.

Yeah it's a no-go area, all hail the morons of journalism.

Huh?

Its Mayo, the feckin distant rural Ireland, it cannot be compared to a big city yet it has many violent incidents occurring in the last few weeks, what is it thats causing it, the water perhaps?:D

Shacklebolt

gurramok wrote: »

ROFL.

Even the animals run amok!!

Yeh, i forgot about the Westport garda. Why Mayo though?

It's so remote you'd expect it to be a peace loving respectable county?!

Lot of scumbags have moved into the west over the past few years mostly from Dublin and England. Combine that with the large Traveller population many of whom are involved in criminality (I have to stress, not all) its inevitable we're going to see a rise in violent crime here. I personally think its only a matter of time before somebody gets killed in my local town.

JOM34

Shacklebolt wrote: »

Ballinrobe is the town where the bull ran around the supervalue. Its actually a very rough town and it doesnt surpise me that stabbings have now occurred there. Also you forgot about the Westport guard getting stabbed.

Barring last nite's incident can you expand further on Ballinrobe being a rough town and other evidence that this type of thing was always going to happen there at some stage?

gurramok

Shacklebolt wrote: »

Lot of scumbags have moved into the west over the past few years mostly from Dublin and England. Combine that with the large Traveller population many of whom are involved in criminality (I have to stress, not all) its inevitable we're going to see a rise in violent crime here. I personally think its only a matter of time before somebody gets killed in my local town.

Ah here, blaming the Dubs and outsiders!:rolleyes:

Most so far that have been charged are Mayo natives!

Shacklebolt

JOM34 wrote: »

Barring last nite's incident can you expand further on Ballinrobe being a rough town and other evidence that this type of thing was always going to happen there at some stage?

My personal experiences of Ballinrobe aren't very pleasant and I'd regard as being among the rougher towns in the county. I didn't say stabbings and the like were inevitable there I said that I wasn't surprised when I heard they had. For example I was more surprised at Kiltimagh which I always regarded as a much quieter place.

Ordinary man

gurramok wrote: »

Ah here, blaming the Dubs and outsiders!:rolleyes:

Most so far that have been charged are Mayo natives!

You'll find that the above are responsible for 2 out of the 3 incidents;)

Shacklebolt

gurramok wrote: »

Ah here, blaming the Dubs and outsiders!:rolleyes:

Most so far that have been charged are Mayo natives!

I can't say much of what I know on the Kiltimagh incident because so far its not official, but some of the people questioned about it (whom I once knew) where certainly not Mayo natives.

I think the biggest problem with Mayo is that it has become a dumping ground for the country's scum. My home town recently had a number of the rougher families involved in the troubles in Limerick moved there. It also has the biggest housing estate in Mayo and it's a council estate responsible for much of the towns problems.

gurramok

Shacklebolt wrote: »

I can't say much of what I know on the Kiltimagh incident because so far its not official, but some of the people questioned about it (whom I once knew) where certainly not Mayo natives.

Mayo native?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0815/heneghan.html

Shacklebolt

gurramok wrote: »

Mayo native?

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0815/heneghan.html

There was more than one person involved in the brawl that night. Anyway I don't deny that there are native Mayo scumbags but I think the culture of criminality in the west has been influenced by criminals arriving from elsewhere.

gurramok

Shacklebolt wrote: »

There was more than one person involved in the brawl that night.

Where is the Dub/outsider connection then?

Shacklebolt

gurramok wrote: »

Where is the Dub/outsider connection then?

Look I'm not going to make claims that could bring boards into legal trouble. I won't talk about what I've heard until proper media sources are available.

Captain Slow IRL

Deleted User wrote: »

........ It also has the biggest housing estate in Mayo and it's a council estate responsible for much of the towns problems.

No it's not - there are far more dangerous individuals from outside that estate than in it.

gurramok

Shacklebolt wrote: »

Look I'm not going to make claims that could bring boards into legal trouble. I won't talk about what I've heard until proper media sources are available.

So speculation then?

It just seems when anything bad happens in Mayo, its immigrant Dub related, scapegoats?

Captain Slow IRL

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

No it's not - there are far more dangerous individuals from outside that estate than in it.

I'm not saying that they're aren't more dangerous individuals but the estate is cause for a lot of trouble. The amount of crap that goes on there is unbeliveable at times, one night a few weeks back there was cops up there every half hour and a number of people beaten with baseball bats, fists, etc. Driving past I saw a group of 3 or 4 people chasing another guy and smacking him in the back of the skull with a bat.

gurramok

gurramok wrote: »

So speculation then?

It just seems when anything bad happens in Mayo, its immigrant Dub related, scapegoats?

Mayo has it's fair share of home grown scum and trouble makers but it has became a dumping ground for a lot of undesirable characters from outside.

Robbo

gurramok wrote: »

All these violent incidents in a week! (without a Shell protest )

First we had the Kiltimagh stabbing murder.http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0812/mayo.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0708/marrinanc.html
http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0611/mayo.html

Then today this, 4 people viscously attacked in a remote town(http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0816/ballinrobe.html). You'd maybe expect this in a large city but Ballinrobe, where is that?!

Wtf is going on there?

They were attacked with immensely thick liquid?

That's the kind of ill-thought out AH scaremongering I can get behind, like an agrarian remake of The Blob.

Just another day in the wild wesht!

gurramok

Robbo wrote: »

They were attacked with immensely thick liquid?

That's the kind of ill-thought out AH scaremongering I can get behind, like an agrarian remake of The Blob.

Assaulted aka kicks and punches!!

And twice in the night by the same group of men according to gardai!!

Now, you wouldn't expect that to happen in a country town in Mayo?!

gurramok

gurramok wrote: »

Assaulted aka kicks and punches!!

And twice in the night by the same group of men according to gardai!!

Now, you wouldn't expect that to happen in a country town in Mayo?!

Why wouldn't you expect it? There is no cultural divide in this country anymore. Violence is widespread and a daily occurrence in every town and village the world over. Why is it that I believe that you read the Daily Mail.

Armin_Tamzarian

It wasn't always like that, Mayoites used to plod along harmlessly.
That is until that feckin song came along and got them all full of hopes and dreams...

May-O, Mayyyyyy-O
SAM Maguire is comin home to May-O...

All across Mayo the people got their hopes up, confidence brimmed and the omnipresent darkness
that hangs over the place finally started to disperse.

But alas, SAM Maguire didn't go to Mayo at all.
No, instead he fecked off Kerry.
Leaving the Mayoites to wallow in their own misery, their spirits crushed.
Soon their depression turned to anger and pretty soon the limited socitey that had existed just collapsed.
Lawlessness took over and it's just been downhill ever since...

gurramok

Deleted User wrote: »

Why wouldn't you expect it? There is no cultural divide in this country anymore. Violence is widespread and a daily occurrence in every town and village the world over. Why is it that I believe that you read the Daily Mail.

Daily Mail?!

I quoted RTE news stories!

Mayo is alot in the news lately for bad reasons, i'm asking why??

gurramok

gurramok wrote: »

Mayo is alot in the news lately for bad reasons, i'm asking why??

Slow news day?

gurramok

Deleted User wrote: »

Slow news day?

But its Mayo!! :P

As far as i can remember Mayo was rarely in the news till recently, from an attempted murder of a garda to a murder of a civilian to 4 vicious assaults of people walking home after a night out, why has the place gone so bad?

Robbo

gurramok wrote: »

Assaulted aka kicks and punches!!

And twice in the night by the same group of men according to gardai!!

Now, you wouldn't expect that to happen in a country town in Mayo?!

I fully expect it.

As a Galwegian, I'm sick of Mayo people coming down here and being given "grants" and told to attend college. They then try to marry themselves to Galwegian women and then never want to leave, so called claiming so called asylum. I'm reliably informed that they get free prams and cars from the Social and €204 a week to not work! I'm not racist but Galway for Galwegians is what I say. Some of my best friends are from Roscommon but what these Mayo types do sickens me.

Captain Slow IRL

Deleted User wrote: »

....... Driving past I saw a group of 3 or 4 people chasing another guy and smacking him in the back of the skull with a bat.

I'm surprised I didn't hear about that!

WesternNight

These latest two assaults are suspected to have been carried out by the same gang of men. It's pretty creepy to think they're assaulting people on New Street and then the same again on the Neale Road a while later. Sounds more like hunters than opportunists.

Used to live in Ballinrobe. Never noticed anything rough about it. Although that was a long time ago now.

galwayrush

To add to Robbo's post above, wtf is it with Mayo people and Roundabouts in Galway, there are rules ffs,.:rolleyes:

gurramok

gurramok wrote: »

Daily Mail?!

I quoted RTE news stories!

Mayo is alot in the news lately for bad reasons, i'm asking why??

gurramok wrote: »

But its Mayo!! :P

As far as i can remember Mayo was rarely in the news till recently, from an attempted murder of a garda to a murder of a civilian to 4 vicious assaults of people walking home after a night out, why has the place gone so bad?

The reason it's in the news is because papers such as the Daily Mail are blowing these incidents out of all proportion. There is no such thing as news these days. The broadsheets are all opinion pieces, the middle class papers such as the Daily Mail are all campaigns to get something changed or blowing violent incidents out of all proportion while asking why someone wont think of the children. Last but nut least are the rags such as the Sun which basically cover nothing but Z list celebrity celebrity panty shots and over sensationalised crime.

Mayo is no more violent than it was year years back, it's jsut that in the current climate this type of news sells papers. I got mugged in Dublin a few years back by a junkie who held a syringe and broken bottle to my throat, would it be newsworthy if I had went to the papers back then? Not a hope but if it happened to day you could pretty much guarantee I could get a piece written about it and the decline of humanity.

gurramok

Robbo wrote: »

I fully expect it.

As a Galwegian, I'm sick of Mayo people coming down here and being given "grants" and told to attend college. They then try to marry themselves to Galwegian women and then never want to leave, so called claiming so called asylum. I'm reliably informed that they get free prams and cars from the Social and €204 a week to not work! I'm not racist but Galway for Galwegians is what I say. Some of my best friends are from Roscommon but what these Mayo types do sickens me.

Sounds like Mayo is indeed a no-go area with people feeling from there!

gurramok

Deleted User wrote: »

The reason it's in the news is because papers such as the Daily Mail are blowing these incidents out of all proportion. There is no such thing as news these days. The broadsheets are all opinion pieces, the middle class papers such as the Daily Mail are all campaigns to get something changed or blowing violent incidents out of all proportion while asking why someone wont think of the children. Last but nut least are the rags such as the Sun which basically cover nothing but Z list celebrity celebrity panty shots and over sensationalised crime.

Mayo is no more violent than it was year years back, it's jsut that in the current climate this type of news sells papers. I got mugged in Dublin a few years back by a junkie who held a syringe and broken bottle to my throat, would it be newsworthy if I had went to the papers back then? Not a hope but if it happened to day you could pretty much guarantee I could get a piece written about it and the decline of humanity.

Why do you keep quoting the Daily Mail when these horrific incidents happened in real life and are all over the other mainstream newspapers?

One bloke is fighting for his life in Beaumont hospital as a result of the assaults. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0816/breaking124.htm

rossie1977

gurramok wrote: »

But its Mayo!! :P

As far as i can remember Mayo was rarely in the news till recently, from an attempted murder of a garda to a murder of a civilian to 4 vicious assaults of people walking home after a night out, why has the place gone so bad?

its ballinrobe man, if you have ever been there you would understand, baghdad has nothing on that place

i kid, i kid, i know quite a few people from ballinrobe, nice town, the only problem is the mayo people living there :P

gurramok

gurramok wrote: »

Why do you keep quoting the Daily Mail when these horrific incidents happened in real life and are all over the other mainstream newspapers?

One bloke is fighting for his life in Beaumont hospital as a result of the assaults. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0816/breaking124.htm

I'm not quoting the Daily Mail merely pointing out that it's down to papers such as the Mail and the Sun that cases like this are receiving so much attention. The reason news such as this is recieving so much attention is down to those sort of papers. Think back to the whole Jonathan Ross debacle last year, nothing would have came from it were it not for the Mail and similar rags.

Once it became big news in the rags the mainstream papers picked up for the simple reason that it sold papers. News these days is about making money, there is no such thing as unbiased news reporting. Years ago news was about reporting fact not speculation.

Had the incident occurred in Dublin or Limerick would it be so newsworthy?

Captain Slow IRL

galwayrush wrote: »

To add to Robbo's post above, wtf is it with Mayo people and Roundabouts in Galway, there are rules ffs,.:rolleyes:

Change the record, would you?:rolleyes:

I used to live in Gort Na Corribe and had to negotiate that ass of a roundabout every day - it's not just Mayo reg cars that don't know how to go around it - or any of the other roundabouts in the town.

Captain Slow IRL

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

I'm surprised I didn't hear about that!

It was pretty nasty. The last day my mom picked me up from the bus station we passed a man face down in a pool of blood lieing by the side of the road. Two cops were standing over him waiting for an ambulance. Half an hour later there was a retaliation beating and a friend who lives down the road from the area said that there were 4 more retaliations that night.

rossie1977

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Change the record, would you?:rolleyes:

I used to live in Gort Na Corribe and had to negotiate that ass of a roundabout every day - it's not just Mayo reg cars that don't know how to go around it - or any of the other roundabouts in the town.

mayo and donegal drivers are the worst in the country, mad they are :eek:

rossie1977

rossie1977 wrote: »

mayo and donegal drivers are the worst in the country, mad they are :eek:

I think you'll find that female drivers irrelevant of county are the worst in this country.