Loyalist groups to march in Dublin

Pighead

Kernel wrote:

The unionist question and their role in the north is complex and filled with history.

I'll just throw something out there, two words people:

Ethnic Cleansing.

What do you think?

Pighead thinks Kernels gonna get a Christmas ban for that comment. I'll have a word with the mods on your behalf buddy but I can't promise anything.

Gazza22

I'd rather not see those idiots marching here, though let them if they want or they will go on another bitching session for the the next 10 years...

LoveUlster Forum wrote:

I can't wait to see the faces on the nationalists when the union-jacks and the ulster flags are flown

Well if they come down with an attitude like that, they will be asking for trouble...plus imo the march should be only granted to them if they leave their crappy flags behind

bishop brennan

Pighead wrote:

Pighead thinks Kernels gonna get a Christmas ban for that comment. I'll have a word with the mods on your behalf buddy but I can't promise anything.

Dont worry Kernel your safe now:rolleyes:

Pighead

bishop brennan wrote:

Dont worry Kernel your safe now:rolleyes:

Oh really, Bishop Brennan is throwing out the rolleyes. Pighead snorts at your pathetic roll eyes post. Stay on topic Bishop Brennan or else be prepared for a long evening indoors without your toys. You know what I mean buddy.
Bishops Brennans name entered into the "Book Of Vengeance"

Staying on topic is what Pighead does best so i'd just like to say loyalists planning to march in Dublin can only be viewed as a taunting gesture. I'll be very surprised if this goes ahead

ghostdancer

county wrote:

so if you do not hold a passport are you in limbo,and you state anyone BORN in the 32 counties is IRISH,so whats the problem with them marching,there irish in your view

correct, correct, and i've no problem with them marching.

county

ghostdancer wrote:

correct, correct, and i've no problem with them marching.

we agree on something then:)

Angels

I can't believe this im in shock!!! This group can think they can come down to Dublin & throw there loyalist ****e in the faces of Irish/Dublin people!!!

How dare they. As i've always said the likes of these groups are the ones that cause the violence in a way they make peoples tempers fly off. These groups don't want peace in Northern Ireland at all there just there to cause trouble like they always do & then denie they cause it. Sur it's like they've always done.

Pighead

Pighead wrote:

Oh really, Bishop Brennan is throwing out the rolleyes. Pighead snorts at your pathetic roll eyes post. Stay on topic Bishop Brennan or else be prepared for a long evening indoors without your toys. You know what I mean buddy.
Bishops Brennans name entered into the "Book Of Vengeance"

Staying on topic is what Pighead does best so i'd just like to say loyalists planning to march in Dublin can only be viewed as a taunting gesture. I'll be very surprised if this goes ahead

What are you bladdering on about.

In their eyes they are protesting against what they see as Irish government involvment with their affairs. Pretty straight forward to me.

Pighead

ronoc wrote:

What are you bladdering on about.

In their eyes they are protesting against what they see as Irish government involvment with their affairs. Pretty straight forward to me.

BLADDERING? Did he just say bladdering?
ronoc there is a very fine line between passion and stupidity and i'm afraid you just crossed over that line. And not the passionate side of the line either buddy.

C'mon do you honestly think that a loyalist march in Dublin isn't potentially very dangerous. There are other ways to protest you know. Written Campaign, Meetings behind doors with government members dirty protests etc etc. In future think before you type buddy and try keeping a leash on that vicious tongue of yours.
Bladdering indeed.

deisedevil

bladetrinity wrote:

The chineese celebrate their new year hear each year and charge handsomely yes all are welcome in peaceful ireland .....arent they!

So what if the chinese community in Ireland celebrate their new year here. They live here and i can't see a problem with that but i could see a problem if they decided to bring over a few thousand from china for a protest march through Dublin!!!
Imagine if Iraqi's decided to come over in their thousands to London to have a protest march about British involvement in their affairs.
The orange order aren't coming down for a bloody celebration,to express their heritage or to build bridges with our people, they'll be coming to create mayhem and i hope they don't get it!

Pighead

Pighead wrote:

BLADDERING? Did he just say bladdering?
ronoc there is a very fine line between passion and stupidity and i'm afraid you just crossed over that line. And not the passionate side of the line either buddy.

C'mon do you honestly think that a loyalist march in Dublin isn't potentially very dangerous. There are other ways to protest you know. Written Campaign, Meetings behind doors with government members dirty protests etc etc. In future think before you type buddy and try keeping a leash on that vicious tongue of yours.
Bladdering indeed.

You have never crossed that line Pighead you have been there the whole time.

In my first post I said it wasn't a good idea. Maybe read the whole thread before replying with your inane rubbish?

But to see where they are coming from have a read of this:
http://loveulster.com/

robz150

Angels wrote:

I can't believe this im in shock!!! This group can think they can come down to Dublin & throw there loyalist ****e in the faces of Irish/Dublin people!!!

How dare they. As i've always said the likes of these groups are the ones that cause the violence in a way they make peoples tempers fly off. These groups don't want peace in Northern Ireland at all there just there to cause trouble like they always do & then denie they cause it. Sur it's like they've always done.

Spot on! and these people are on both sides they need to get a hobby or something.:mad:

Angels

Ronoc have u gone into d forum there? THey want to make Paisley a Lord (of evil i say).

Angels

Angels wrote:

Ronoc have u gone into d forum there? THey want to make Paisley a Lord (of evil i say).

Yes had peek. There are the usual nob heads as you would expect but there are some reasonable people.

Alot of them are surprised to meet republicans that aren't as wacko as their lot.

rsynnott

Pighead wrote:

C'mon do you honestly think that a loyalist march in Dublin isn't potentially very dangerous. There are other ways to protest you know. Written Campaign, Meetings behind doors with government members dirty protests etc etc. In future think before you type buddy and try keeping a leash on that vicious tongue of yours.
Bladdering indeed.

So we shouldn't allow peaceful protests, on the basis that stupid people in the audience might try to cause trouble? I assume they'll have garda escort.

For the record, I am not a Loyalist. Or a Republican. My personal view is that both countries should renounce any claims on the place.

el tel

The LoveUlster thing is just an anti-Irish, Anti-nationalist and Anti-Republican movement under the auspices of Unionist Unity. It's neither positive, progressive or inclusive.

As long as the Orange Order is involved it has no credibility. As an organisation they are entirely sectarian to the extent that it's constituion discourages association with Catholics. As long as they hold onto their hatred and bigotry they shouldn't be allowed to march in Dublin.

Angels

el tel wrote:

The LoveUlster thing is just an anti-Irish, Anti-nationalist and Anti-Republican movement under the auspices of Unionist Unity. It's neither positive, progressive or inclusive.

As long as the Orange Order is involved it has no credibility. As an organisation they are entirely sectarian to the extent that it's constituion discourages association with Catholics. As long as they hold onto their hatred and bigotry they shouldn't be allowed to march in Dublin.

I completley agree with you and you worded that brilliantly.

klash

quote from loveulster forums.

If you are going to Dublin, beware of the west brits from dublin 4. Most of them work for the Sunday Independent and make northern loyalists look as british as Crossmaglen Rangers.

Even the LVF have said in the past, "Steady on lads, you are a little bit too British for our liking!"

LOL

Elmo

I think we should march with them. And demand a full investigation into the Dublin-Monaghan Bombings, all British Army, RUC and UDF, LVF colussion etc.

But then they forget that if they had shown their fellow "Ulster" men, women and children RESPECT that they deserve, they wouldn't have had to go to the extremes that many of them went to.

I am not defending IRA actions, but I will also not defend the Loyalist Scarmongering, Propoganda, Collussion and Gerrymandering.

I will always respect the views of another person but I expect the same from them.

Perhaps we should give them Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan.

Pighead

ronoc wrote:

You have never crossed that line Pighead you have been there the whole time.

In my first post I said it wasn't a good idea. Maybe read the whole thread before replying with your inane rubbish?

But to see where they are coming from have a read of this:
http://loveulster.com/

Read this whole thread! are you insane? Pigheads a child of the 70's. We have the attention span of a feeble minded gnat. I thought I was doing well to even get through your post.

If you don't agree with the march then why did you accuse me of bladdering? Were you just in a bit of a mood at the time? And posting up a link to show where the other side are coming from is absolutely pointless. We've both agreed trouble is likely to kick off, hence this is a bad idea.

Thats like sticking up for a seal clubber by posting a link to his website and saying hes got a view as well. Yes its exactly like that.

Pighead

rsynnott wrote:

So we shouldn't allow peaceful protests, on the basis that stupid people in the audience might try to cause trouble? I assume they'll have garda escort.

For the record, I am not a Loyalist. Or a Republican. My personal view is that both countries should renounce any claims on the place.

Well if we're quite sure that trouble is going to kick off then no we shouldnt allow "peaceful protests". I mean if you were a sheep and you were protesting for more grass would you organise your route so it would pass by a street where all the big bad wolves lived? No, you'd bypass that and head down towards where the donkeys dwell. Its all about common sense buddy.

the_menace

rsynnott wrote:

So we shouldn't allow peaceful protests, on the basis that stupid people in the audience might try to cause trouble?

If you mean 'we' as in people who live and pay taxes here, then yes. If you mean should a bunch of malcontents from another country be allowed come here and march at the cost of the Irish taxpayer, then no.

*WKD*

fly_agaric wrote:

Yet more boards.ie paranoid rubbish about Dublin's terrible "scumbag" population which is always spoiling for a "riot" it seems. What about the good people who posted on here saying the loveulster people should be showered by urine filled water bombs? Anyway, I bet the "scumbags" will ignore this little stunt if it goes ahead - just like everyone else.



Maybe they don't march through Harlem but the KKK have been allowed to hold many rallies in the centre of cities in the US despite being a bunch of hate-filled bigots.

Really Fly, well I happen to be married to a northerner who does not want to be part of the ROI nor does he want any part of the UK. A lot of the northerners feel this way due to the fact they would like to be a seperate entity and have their own independence. Their own flag, currency etc. I cant blame them for feeling this way as they are kind of in limbo. However its the bigots who carry it on. The ones who would be marching on Dublin would be the "scumbags" probably all sporting their rangers jerseys, and orange wears and flutes. We can only hope the "everyone" will ignore this stunt.

The KKK rallies that occur are kept very quiet, they cause much disturbance in the towns where they do happen in. The would be held in southern towns/cities where people have not been educated enough to speak out against such ****e.

Pighead

Pighead wrote:

Read this whole thread! are you insane? Pigheads a child of the 70's. We have the attention span of a feeble minded gnat. I thought I was doing well to even get through your post.

If you don't agree with the march then why did you accuse me of bladdering? Were you just in a bit of a mood at the time? And posting up a link to show where the other side are coming from is absolutely pointless. We've both agreed trouble is likely to kick off, hence this is a bad idea.

Thats like sticking up for a seal clubber by posting a link to his website and saying hes got a view as well. Yes its exactly like that.

Well if you can't be bothered to read and comprehend maybe you should stay out of topics that require a little more brainpower than making up stories in the third person.

This is a small island and believe it or not a lot of people on this island have different views.
It wasn't too long ago civil rights marches were banned in the north and it was the republicans that were accused of stirring trouble.

I don't agree with their politics but I do acknowledge their right to protest.

Terry

they have to be the most pathetic bunch of people i have ever come across in my life.
what is this march going to achieve?

someone on that forum equated the ira to the kkk. i pointed out the fact that the kkk killed catholics, but someone deleted my post. i guess they don't like to be associated directly with known bigots.

they can march down O'Connell street every day for all i care. other idiots do it, why shouldn't they have the chance.

as for their citizenship, i personally don't see them as Irish. they don't want to be Irish, so why should anyone else see them as Irish.

let them have their own little country. let the terrorists all kill each other and leave the sane people to live there in peace.

cournioni

Elmo wrote:

Perhaps we should give them Donegal, Monaghan and Cavan.

No thanks.

the_menace

ronoc wrote:

I don't agree with their politics but I do acknowledge their right to protest.

I'm sorry but I don't see their right to protest in this country at all. These people are British citizens. They have absolutely no right whatsoever to disrupt business in the Republic of Ireland nor should we be footing the bill because they want to protest in our country. It defies belief that this march would be allowed go ahead. I won't be particularly pissed at them though - they're just bigot idiots who attack children. I'll be more pissed off with our government for allowing it to happen.

deisedevil

I have been talking to someone on their forum and there are some of them who genuinely just want a peaceful protest at the governments handling ot the "on the run" issue and SF being in government issue. Problem is their thread about the march in dublin is riddled with idiots saying they can't wait to see the look on our faces when they wave their union jacks at us and they are posting stupid songs and chants to use that slag off us and our government. That's the problem, no matter what they say there will be a huge number of idiots coming with them looking for trouble and looking to rise us, like i have said before i hope people don't fall for it!

Supercell

Agree completely the_menace, they have chosen to hold british citizanship and therefor forfit their right to parade in the "free state".

I for one would be suprised very much, now that my initial knee jerk fury to this has calmed down, if the Gardaí allow these hooligans their parade in the middle of the January sales causing huge inconvenience to shoppers and great expense and manpower to the Gardaí.

Their answer should be to these people that they are denyed permission and anyone causing a public disturbance on the day(which parading down O'Connel Street will be treated as) will be promptly be arrested, lets see how many of these idiots make the trip then.

More the better, i'd enjoy seeing them bundled non to carefully into waiting Gardaí vans ready to meet the cream of our society in the holding cells.

*WKD*

Longfield wrote:

Agree completely the_menace, they have chosen to hold british citizanship and therefor forfit their right to parade in the "free state".

I for one would be suprised very much, now that my initial knee jerk fury to this has calmed down, if the Gardaí allow these hooligans their parade in the middle of the January sales causing huge inconvenience to shoppers and great expense and manpower to the Gardaí.

Their answer should be to these people that they are denyed permission and anyone causing a public disturbance on the day(which parading down O'Connel Street will be treated as) will be promptly be arrested, lets see how many of these idiots make the trip then.

More the better, i'd enjoy seeing them bundled non to carefully into waiting Gardaí vans ready to meet the cream of our society in the holding cells.

Well said Longfield, my sentiments exactly.