Seems like a good deal on coal....

vicwatson · 27-09-2019 12:12am

mickuhaha wrote: »

You will have to pay import duty and the emission Levy's I would think.

Technically you are meant to pay it now

mickuhaha · 27-09-2019 7:01am

vicwatson wrote: »

Technically you are meant to pay it now

Just emission levy I believe. No tax on purchasing a product for personal use cross EU countries. Tax is paid in selling country.

vicwatson · 27-09-2019 8:15am

mickuhaha wrote: »

Just emission levy I believe. No tax on purchasing a product for personal use cross EU countries. Tax is paid in selling country.

I think this was gone over before that technically you personally must accompany the fuel for it to be duty free?? OTC

lenscap · 27-09-2019 4:36pm

vicwatson wrote: »

I think this was gone over before that technically you personally must accompany the fuel for it to be duty free?? OTC

That is the correct answer. If you are importing the fuel for personal use (not for resale) then you must accompany it as it crosses the border otherwise you will be liable to the carbon tax.

I have never seen or heard of it enforced but with Brexit.......................

chasm · 27-09-2019 8:16pm

Minister for Finance replying to a question by Micheál Martin in June 2019:

"European Union Single Market constraints preclude the use of any cross-border controls in relation to the movement of solid fuel into the State from other Member States. Therefore, Revenue has no authority to stop vehicles and physically inspect loads of solid fuel entering the State from Northern Ireland. Similarly, the transportation or possession of solid fuel that originated in Northern Ireland are not, in themselves, Revenue offences and Revenue's officers have no authority to challenge such transportation or possession."

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-06-25/126/

Until brexit obviously!

naughto · 30-09-2019 1:52pm

Has any one used these

http://coaldirectireland.com

physioman · 30-09-2019 3:19pm

naughto wrote: »

Has any one used these

http://coaldirectireland.com

Ton of ovoids 445 euro. Hardly good value there.

naughto · 30-09-2019 5:57pm

physioman wrote: »

Ton of ovoids 445 euro. Hardly good value there.

Cw house 300 plus 85 for delivery 385

445-85 is 360 so the above link works out cheaper even at 85 for delivery.i no it says it’s free but it’s not

jc77 · 01-10-2019 12:47pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

What is their current stg price for a ton of Ovoids?

This is now £265

Happy4 · 02-10-2019 12:16pm

Hi,

complete and utter newby at buying coal (so apologies).. are oviods just like a smokeless coal? Any tips on where to buy good smokeless coal that will deliver to Naas?

Thanks

Cantona's Collars · 02-10-2019 3:56pm

I was picking up some coal earlier and was told prices are going up next week and his supplier had raised prices last week.

€17 for 40kg of ovoids locally now and an increase on the way and I can get 2 for €29.50 a ten minute drive away.

homingbird · 02-10-2019 7:11pm

Use REVIEW10 Coupon code on kosy king to save 10 pounds or 11.50 euro. I just ordered as they are now just as cheap as CW without the hassel of arranging delivery.

taytobreath · 02-10-2019 7:39pm

homingbird wrote: »

Use REVIEW10 Coupon code on kosy king to save 10 pounds or 11.50 euro. I just ordered as they are now just as cheap as CW without the hassel of arranging delivery.

Coal warehouse are about 47 euros cheaper per tonne of ovoids for me, delivery to Waterford, I just checked.

Coal warehouse = €300
Delivery with Mcgovern Transport to Waterford = €78
Total = €378

Kosyking = €397
Delivery = €28
Total = €425

Actually when you use cosykings exchange rate and pay in euros the cost goes up a tenner to €435.79

€425 - €378 = €47

physioman · 02-10-2019 9:22pm

naughto wrote: »

Cw house 300 plus 85 for delivery 385

445-85 is 360 so the above link works out cheaper even at 85 for delivery.i no it says it’s free but it’s not

To be honest I can't understand your reply. Cw house is 385 v 445 so cw is cheaper by 60 euro. Hence my comment that 445 is not a bargain. Maybe omega gene can clear this up

ROS123 · 04-10-2019 2:24pm

Whats the best product for an open fire, high heat, low ash please..

Marhay70 · 05-10-2019 10:20am

Freight costs are a rip off, are you tied to a particular freight company? I have a one tonne pallet of another product coming from NI next week for £20, it has been that price for at least two years.

naughto · 05-10-2019 10:43am

Marhay70 wrote: »

Freight costs are a rip off, are you tied to a particular freight company? I have a one tonne pallet of another product coming from NI next week for £20, it has been that price for at least two years.

Who’s the company you are with and where are you getting it delivered to?

Marhay70 · 05-10-2019 11:58am

naughto wrote: »

Who’s the company you are with and where are you getting it delivered to?

It's usually "The Pallet Network" and it's delivered from Armagh to Wexford but as far as I know it's the same price to all of the Republic.

taytobreath · 05-10-2019 6:08pm

How do u go about contacting the pallet network to get a delivery arranged?

taytobreath · 07-10-2019 4:50pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

It's usually "The Pallet Network" and it's delivered from Armagh to Wexford but as far as I know it's the same price to all of the Republic.

The pallet network charge €95.00 + vat at 23 % to deliver from coal warehouse to Waterford. They just confirmed this by email to me just now.
JoeMcgovern is the cheapest for me at 73.80 euros

Marhay70 · 07-10-2019 5:08pm

taytobreath wrote: »

The pallet network charge €95.00 + vat at 23 % to deliver from coal warehouse to Waterford. They just confirmed this by email to me just now.
JoeMcgovern is the cheapest for me at 73.80 euros

What I have coming is timber, I'll double check when it comes as to who is delivering it but I can't see how there could be a €70 difference because of different materials. Maybe my supplier has a bulk rate but it still shouldn't make that much difference.

my3cents · 07-10-2019 5:30pm

Marhay70 wrote: »

What I have coming is timber, I'll double check when it comes as to who is delivering it but I can't see how there could be a €70 difference because of different materials. Maybe my supplier has a bulk rate but it still shouldn't make that much difference.

I doubt your pallet of timber will weigh anything like the full ton? I think we can all agree a ton of coal on a pallet will weigh a ton.

Kristopherus · 08-10-2019 1:22am

my3cents wrote: »

I doubt your pallet of timber will weigh anything like the full ton? I think we can all agree a ton of coal on a pallet will weigh a ton.

Question for you 3cents. Which is the heavier, a ton of ovoids or a ton of feathers?

my3cents · 08-10-2019 10:14am

Kristopherus wrote: »

Question for you 3cents. Which is the heavier, a ton of ovoids or a ton of feathers?

The point is that a pallet load isn't just limited by weight its also limited by size and a ton of wood would very likely need more than one pallet or to put it another way wood on a euro pallet would most probably weigh much less than a ton.

There have to be size and weight limits so the hauliers can work out how much they can carry.

The specifications for euro pallets is for more than a ton (tonne) at 1,500kg with a height limit of 2.2meters but in the case of coal one ton seems to be the limit give or take an extra couple of bags that coal warehouse will often throw in as part of a deal.

In the case of feathers I'll let you research if you could even fit a ton of feathers onto a euro pallet, I doubt you could?

jc77 · 08-10-2019 9:30pm

Ordered a ton of MagiFlame from Kosy King last Thursday evening, Oct 3rd. This was delivered today by Prompto.

I don't live in a smokeless zone, just wanted a cleaner handling coal.

I used the mentioned code 'review10' which discounted £10 off the original price of £314/ton. Delivery was £24.95.

I chose this option rather than the less expensive CW/organise my own delivery as I was looking to do as little organising as possible myself. Buying from KK meant once I clicked 'buy', I didn't have to anything else until I got the call from the lorry driver today.

I loaded money into revolut a few days before hand to pay in sterling.

lenscap · 08-10-2019 11:27pm

I have used Kosyking many times and never had a problem and they are very helpful with fast delivery.

As Jc77 said it is just one click and less hassle.

Marhay70 · 09-10-2019 9:24am

my3cents wrote: »

The point is that a pallet load isn't just limited by weight its also limited by size and a ton of wood would very likely need more than one pallet or to put it another way wood on a euro pallet would most probably weigh much less than a ton.

There have to be size and weight limits so the hauliers can work out how much they can carry.

The specifications for euro pallets is for more than a ton (tonne) at 1,500kg with a height limit of 2.2meters but in the case of coal one ton seems to be the limit give or take an extra couple of bags that coal warehouse will often throw in as part of a deal.

In the case of feathers I'll let you research if you could even fit a ton of feathers onto a euro pallet, I doubt you could?

Ok the pallet of timber is just short of 800kg and is 2 cubic metres, So, indeed short of a tonne but still taking up a pallet space so I still think the difference in cost is excessive, particularly as the above poster is giving a cost of £24.95 for a ton, I'm not sure if he means an imperial ton or a metric tonne.

my3cents · 09-10-2019 9:36am

Marhay70 wrote: »

Ok the pallet of timber is just short of 800kg and is 2 cubic metres, So, indeed short of a tonne but still taking up a pallet space so I still think the difference in cost is excessive, particularly as the above poster is giving a cost of £24.95 for a ton, I'm not sure if he means an imperial ton or a metric tonne.

No fair enough, thats a lot heavier than I expected it to be and a lot cheaper than I'd expect. Not bought anything on a pallet in ages but in the past as soon as it went on a pallet no matter what the weight the haulage price jumped to about 50 quid. I still think 50-60 is a fair price for delivery of a pallet and the current prices are too high wonder if there is a price hike for crossing the boarder? Ton and tonne are really the same theres really nothing in it, unless anyone wants to argue about 36ibs or less than the weight of a bag of coal.

padair · 10-10-2019 7:44am

lenscap wrote: »

I have used Kosyking many times and never had a problem and they are very helpful with fast delivery.

As Jc77 said it is just one click and less hassle.

Thinking about getting some coal from kosyking for a stove. Does anyone have any recommendations? Is ovods best or what offers best value

funnyname · 10-10-2019 10:45am

What size truck was used for delivery? I'm in a tricky spot and a large curtain side truck would have difficulty.

Also how does the MagiFlame burn compared to other smokeless coal you've used?

Stafford's branded MagiFlame is 2 yoyos a bag cheaper than the usual ovoids (supertherm) I usually get.

jc77 wrote: »

Ordered a ton of MagiFlame from Kosy King last Thursday evening, Oct 3rd. This was delivered today by Prompto.

I don't live in a smokeless zone, just wanted a cleaner handling coal.

I used the mentioned code 'review10' which discounted £10 off the original price of £314/ton. Delivery was £24.95.

I chose this option rather than the less expensive CW/organise my own delivery as I was looking to do as little organising as possible myself. Buying from KK meant once I clicked 'buy', I didn't have to anything else until I got the call from the lorry driver today.

I loaded money into revolut a few days before hand to pay in sterling.

my3cents · 10-10-2019 10:57am

Fairly standard 28ft curtain sided trucks seem to be the norm.

Cape Clear · 10-10-2019 2:56pm

MD O Sheas Cork & Killarney

physioman · 10-10-2019 5:43pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

MD O Sheas Cork & Killarney

That's great value in fairness. 15 euro a bag.

taytobreath · 10-10-2019 8:15pm

whats the best smokey coal from coal warehouse?

OmegaGene · 10-10-2019 8:23pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

MD O Sheas Cork & Killarney

I will be getting some of the ovoids
Thanks for posting

JeffKenna · 10-10-2019 8:43pm

Where can I get extra smokey coal?

Roberto_gas · 10-10-2019 9:15pm

Cape Clear wrote:

MD O Sheas Cork & Killarney

Any near Dublin?

Cape Clear · 10-10-2019 10:19pm

Roberto_gas wrote: »

Cape Clear wrote:

MD O Sheas Cork & Killarney

Any near Dublin?

No but the return fare on the aircoach is only 20 yoyos.

bassy · 10-10-2019 10:25pm

Cape Clear wrote: »

No but the return fare on the aircoach is only 20 yoyos.

lol

:D

jc77 · 12-10-2019 8:38pm

funnyname wrote: »

What size truck was used for delivery? I'm in a tricky spot and a large curtain side truck would have difficulty.

Also how does the MagiFlame burn compared to other smokeless coal you've used?

Stafford's branded MagiFlame is 2 yoyos a bag cheaper than the usual ovoids (supertherm) I usually get.

I haven't burned any of it yet, we've only lit the stove once this season & then were burning off supertherm ovoids we had from last winter.

The truck was from Promto (similar to this one: https://www.flickr.com/photos/shanecasey51/12878348905).

Eoghan55 · 21-10-2019 4:00pm

lenscap wrote: »

I was having my chimney cleaned and the amount of tar in the back of the stove flue surprised me. I mean a huge amount.

It was coal tar, not wood creosote. In all my years using my stove I never had this problem.

Thankfully I keep a record of all fuels I buy and burn. I don't want to bad mouth a supplier online but I won't be using them again. All I will say is that it wasn't the smokeless ovoids from Kosy King that caused the problem.

Hi.

Just wondering which ovoids did u use... Is it stove coal ovoids from kk or are u aware of better quality ovoids

taytobreath · 21-10-2019 4:42pm

Eoghan55 wrote: »

Hi.

Just wondering which ovoids did u use... Is it stove coal ovoids from kk or are u aware of better quality ovoids

I just bought a tonne of coalwarehouse ovoids and its brilliant quality. I put a shovel of coal in the stove last night at about 11pm and today 17 hours later there's still heat coming from it and could easily brought back to life by adding another shovel of coal or by opening the draught spinner thingy fully.

mikeecho · 27-10-2019 9:08pm

I bought the Black Diamond back in April.
Only getting around to using it now in an open fire.

The heat is insane. I can only put a small amount on at a time.

It burns completely to ash, virtually no cinders.

Eoghan55 · 30-10-2019 8:38am

Hi

Just wondering if you ever tried the kosy king anthracite in the end. Was thinking of buying a tonne for my stove

Eoghan55 · 30-10-2019 8:38am

Sav88 wrote: »

Hi, has anyone used any of kosy kings anthracite, or does anyone recommend a good quality anthracite. Thanks

Hi

Just wondering if you ever tried the kosy king anthracite in the end. Was thinking of buying a tonne for my stove

Cape Clear · 30-10-2019 9:28am

Anyone come across rhis crowd before https://www.thedandys.ie/product/tigerlady-anthracite-1-ton-pallet

razorronan · 30-10-2019 10:51am

Ordered a tonne a stove ovoids from Easyglow just before 4pm yesterday online. Arrived this morning at 09:00am. Very efficient service. I'll be interested to see what the quality is like.

Day Lewin · 13-11-2019 2:24pm

Long time since I bought coal for the stove.

Was looking for a retail place in Sth Co Dublin that we could pick up a bag in the car.

Eventually located a place in Cabinteely, and got a yellow bag, 40kg of Magiflame, for 23 euros.
Is that very dear?

the.red.baron · 13-11-2019 3:36pm

Eoghan55 wrote: »

Hi

Just wondering if you ever tried the kosy king anthracite in the end. Was thinking of buying a tonne for my stove

tis shoite, avoid

lenscap · 15-11-2019 4:30pm

Eoghan55 wrote: »

Hi

Just wondering if you ever tried the kosy king anthracite in the end. Was thinking of buying a tonne for my stove

I ordered their Maxibrite ovoids which are 89% anthracite ( Ecobrite is 96%).
It gives off great heat, last a long time and leaves little ash. I burn it in a backboiler stove and the inside of the stove need very little cleaning compared to other ovoids I have used.
I am very happy with my purchase.

Seems like a good deal on coal....

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