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UFC Fight Night Events Thread - Spoilers Within

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    I think there's a big difference between amateur boxing and the UFC though. It's an entertainment business. I enjoyed Max's showboating the other night. Don't think there was anything malicious in it either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,656 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    walshb wrote: »
    Yep..

    And he was criticised for it and adored for it...

    Probably because he did it again and again.

    Holloway did it for 20 seconds of one fight. Given the context, I didn't find it particularly egregious and certainly not the example of behaviour to eradicate from the sport that I'd have chosen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,707 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Probably because he did it again and again.

    Holloway did it for 20 seconds of one fight. Given the context, I didn't find it particularly egregious and certainly not the example of behaviour to eradicate from the sport that I'd have chosen.

    I am sure there are many more examples..

    This one I decided to mention..saw it and thought I’d mention it. That’s all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,656 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    walshb wrote: »
    I am sure there are many more examples..

    This one I decided to mention..saw it and thought I’d mention it. That’s all.

    Gone way past just a mention now :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 76 ✭✭Khumatmibro


    Cant wait to see Connor MacGregor whoop this Dustin guy at the weekend


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,707 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Gone way past just a mention now :pac:

    Stop replying!!😅


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,613 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Loved seeing James Gallagher getting nailed aswell.
    That's something else though right.
    I don't remember Gallagher showboating in the cage. His striking isn't good enough to pull it off.
    walshb wrote: »
    But you don't see an issue with belittling/mocking an opponent who is clearly being dominated as an issue?

    Max the other night wasn't happy with beating the lad up, he was rubbing in his dominance in a very disrespectful way....that is how I saw it...

    I don't like the belittling/mocking of a fighter that's being smashed. But I think that not every single taunt qualifies either.

    Kattar spent weeks belittling Max's boxing. Max was destroying him. I'm ok with Max referencing Kattar comments mid-destruction.
    If it was Ortega, or another grappler who never said anything about his boxing. It wouldn't be ok. Context matters imo.

    Eg
    Diaz - Flipping off the opponent (who is usually smashing Diaz for a round or two) I'm ok with. He's not doing it to to a helpless opponent.

    Conor hands behind the back. I was ok with. It was in response to Eddie's talking about how he is too small, and how he has answers for his tricks etc.
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Kattar spends week of fight belittling the boxing skills of his opponent.

    Opponent spends 25 mins throwing and landing a record number of strikes on Kattar and reminds him of his words while doing so.

    I don't see the issue.

    This. Kattar asked for it.

    Still Ill wrote: »
    Yeah, he pretended to take a selfie with his opponent whilst he was beating him up!
    I've no problem with that kinda stuff really. It's all part of the game. The audience can choose themselves whether they find it amusing or distasteful.

    The MVP thing I actually do have a problem with.
    He's fighting bums that aren't near pro level. This are local fighters taking a L for a few quid a the hope of a lucky punch. MVP talking selfies is mocking a bigger mockery of the already embarrassing mactchmaking.
    Kattar is a top fighter, not a bum wheel out for Max to destroy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,707 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I agree. Context, naturally plays a part..

    Just my overall general view is that I really hate to see fighters who are clearly dominating and hurting an opponent to be also mocking/belittling whist doing it..

    Showboating, as in messing or verbally taunting etc..they should be told to give it the fook over, and fight!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,038 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mellor wrote: »
    That's something else though right.
    I don't remember Gallagher showboating in the cage. His striking isn't good enough to pull it off.

    He acted the absolute bollix before he got KO'd


    SlowBlowin wrote: »
    Muhammad Ali

    Only once during a fight. Against Ernie Tyrell. And he was widely criticised for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,613 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The Nal wrote: »
    He acted the absolute bollix before he got KO'd

    He’s acted the bollox when he’s won, post fight, pre fight, in the media.
    The conversation was about showboating during the fight while dominating.
    I don’t remember any from that fight. He was too busy losing.
    He’s only really dominating when he’s on the ground rather than striking.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    If someone tells you prefight that you skills are low compared to theirs, then its human nature to explain they are wrong after/when you give them a beating. This is what Max was doing, and what a lot of the examples show.

    Then you have the likes of MVP or Prince Naseem who feel everyone can be mocked, even if their opponent has stayed silent prefight, its part of their game.

    Fighters in the second category normally tone down their behaviour after their first good beating or disappear, and are generally not as popular fans as most want to see the cocky fighter beaten.

    Its always been like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    James Gallaher wasn't showboating. He was just being a prick.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    derfderf wrote: »
    James Gallaher wasn't showboating. He was just being a prick.

    Haha.. True. I don't think many would have a problem with his opponent goading him afterwards either. Thoroughly deserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Anyone planning on watching the card today?

    Fight Pass prelims @ 2pm
    Regular prelims @ 3pm
    Main card @ 5pm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Anyone planning on watching the card today?

    Fight Pass prelims @ 2pm
    Regular prelims @ 3pm
    Main card @ 5pm

    Thanks for reminding me !

    Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Fiorot looks really good! She could go far in time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    khabib's cousin up next!

    Think I read somewhere this was on the conor card originally but they pulled it to avoid what could be mayhem.
    Conor arrived on monday so khabib there now.

    no doubt they'll be kept well apart


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    That kick looks spring loaded its so quick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Wonder what Conner will say about that... it will
    be interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,486 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    decent scrap here between Jones & Davis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,613 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.

    If Chimaev is Khabig.
    Does that mean Umar is Khalittle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    Nurmagomadov looked like a smaller, faster, weaker version of Khabib. His style was so similar. Even the way he checked a kick was the same. Definitely a prospect.

    I think that summary is excellent, strength might well come.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    I need to see that Knee again sounded flush ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    The chin on Mason though
    must be awful disheartening for davis


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    McKee cut after going 0-2 and Jones in an absolute war on his debut against a relative nobody. Kind of gives you an idea of where exactly Cage Warrior is at in terms of level.

    Cracking back and forth fight there though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Jones beaten. Hard to complain about that. Could have gone either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,891 ✭✭✭SlowBlowin


    How do you score that ?

    Mason was so aggressive - and that Chin (must be related to justin gaethje)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Mellor wrote: »
    If Chimaev is Khabig.
    Does that mean Umar is Khalittle
    Khasmol


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,534 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Khasmol

    Which one of them is Khaswoll though?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    This has been a good card for the most part. My brain is very confused though. The Main card has started, it's dark outside, but yet it's not even 6pm. It feels like it should be at least 1am. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Whoops posted in the wrong thread earlier, I thought the breeze stoppage was a late.

    Good scrap here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    ASOT wrote: »
    Whoops posted in the wrong thread earlier, I thought the breeze stoppage was a late.

    Good scrap here.

    I think as DC said, Breese was just trying to relax into the choke rather than resist and struggle against it. He seemed fine as soon as it was released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    That Schnell v Nam fight was particularly bad from a commentating point of view again. The lads babbling about crap during it.

    DC is the worst offender for it all the time


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Was Anik not supposed to be on this too? He helps steer the ship a bit. The 3 this evening are a bit like wayward kindergarteners all going in different directions :pac: I don't find them too bad this evening...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    I'd say Anik is resting for the McGregor card!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Great KO from Villanueva !! Lights out!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Great finish from Alves there, delighted for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    This doesn't feel like a main event at all......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Pure domination from Chiesa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,931 ✭✭✭✭mailburner


    Dana won't want Chiesa headlining another main event for a long time

    Shades of jon fitch all over again there for me :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭Gamb!t


    Chiesa has been making slow and steady progress up the ladder.
    Will have a crack off the big boys soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Gamb!t wrote: »
    Chiesa has been making slow and steady progress up the ladder.
    Will have a crack off the big boys soon.
    And will be kicked right back down again when he tries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,961 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Magny was very disappointing, the game plan sucked. He should have been moving around scoring from distance with jabs and kicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,613 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Khasmol

    Khasmol is ambigious.

    Khaswol and Khasmal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Roxanne Modafferi's stand up skills are just so bad....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Tonight's prelims have already started for anyone unaware.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    These two are pretty big for featherweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭The White Feather


    Molly McCann left her gloves in the Octagon after her fight so maybe she retired.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Molly McCann left her gloves in the Octagon after her fight so maybe she retired.

    https://twitter.com/MeatballMolly/status/1358212425888145408


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