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El Camino: A Breaking Bad Movie [Netflix] - *Spoilers*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    enjoyable enough 5 or 6 out of 10 for me

    although i will say didnt feel like a movie just like 2 episodes stitched together


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Acosta


    sky88 wrote: »
    enjoyable enough 5 or 6 out of 10 for me

    although i will say didnt feel like a movie just like 2 episodes stitched together

    Most of these Netflix "movies" don't in general. TV movies maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Enjoyed it, but didn't feel it was essential.

    It suffered from only having Jesse, Todd, Badger and Skinny Pete as established BB characters.

    I found the flashbacks a bit of a drag, a retread of old ground covered in BB. Todd is creepy but I didn't find their little journey that compelling.

    I think it comes down to the weakness of the antagonists - Gus/Tuco/the twins etc were so intimidating on BB and that's part of what made they show so interesting as they were such a constant danger. The Nazis weren't as interesting and they are dead by the start of this anyway.

    Both Todd and the welders aren't really that interesting in their own right and that's what dilutes this for me, the stakes never felt as high as they did in BB.

    It's interesting to see the general comments online about this - loads about Todd's weight, age of the characters, the bald cap.

    No-one seems compelled by the plot itself, or feels that this story closed off some major unanswered questions.

    I loved being back in that world, I thought it was beautifully shot, and Aaron Paul did a great job, I just wish they had gone a different direction with the script.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,539 ✭✭✭RocketRaccoon


    To the people giving 3/10,6/10 and turning it off after an hour. Can you please explain what you were wanting or expecting?

    Still waiting for any sort of reply to this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Use of the term "bald cap" is highly amusing :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Use of the term "bald cap" is highly amusing :D

    I prefer bulbous cranium cap.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,230 ✭✭✭MOR316


    I prefer bulbous cranium cap.

    Good name for a band that


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I prefer bulbous cranium cap.


    Follicle challenged enhancement sheath


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Watched it last night, and while I thought it was ok I think they made a big mistake by setting right after the end of BB. The passage of time meant Jesse looked a fair bit older, Todd’s weight gain was also kinda hard to get around. I think they would have been better setting it a few years down the line, with Jesse settled into a new life. Possibly something could have emerged to throw that into jeopardy. A Saul tie in would have been great, but I suppose they want to preserve his story for BCS. So, ok, but nothing more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    trashcan wrote: »
    Watched it last night, and while I thought it was ok I think they made a big mistake by setting right after the end of BB. The passage of time meant Jesse looked a fair bit older, Todd’s weight gain was also kinda hard to get around. I think they would have been better setting it a few years down the line, with Jesse settled into a new life. Possibly something could have emerged to throw that into jeopardy. A Saul tie in would have been great, but I suppose they want to preserve his story for BCS. So, ok, but nothing more.

    The only problem being Todd was dead at the end of Breaking Bad, Jessie killed him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    I have to say I was really looking forward to this and while it was good, I felt underwhelmed.

    It didn't have the attention-grabbing air that the series had whereby you could not get off the couch without watching one more episode. To answer a question asked previously, I've watched the whole series start to finish 6 times. The 6th time was only 3 or 4 months ago. I love it that much.

    I had hoped that El Camino would touch on how Walt Jr, Skyler and Holly's lives had changed since Elliot and Gretchen went ahead with their promise to Walt, something to do with an investigation into Lydia's death and Andrea's death etc. It was nice to get closure on Walt's fate as I felt the series kind of left that open.

    Anyone else think that when Jesse knocked on the door in the hotel and out came Walt that he was actually alive and it wasn't a flashback?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,484 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Good name for a band that

    I prefer their earlier stuff. They’re gone too mainstream now.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 17,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    trashcan wrote: »
    The passage of time meant Jesse looked a fair bit older
    But is that not a bigger issue in BCS where all the actors are older despite being in a prequel show? I find it most noticeable myself for Giancarlo Esposito (Gus) but it doesn't throw me off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭trashcan


    The only problem being Todd was dead at the end of Breaking Bad, Jessie killed him

    Yes, I do realise that. So if it had been about Jesses new life some years down the line then he wouldn't have featured, obviously.

    I realise there are similar issues with BCS, but none of them struck me as being as obvious as the change in Todd, or even Jesse himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    ixoy wrote: »
    But is that not a bigger issue in BCS where all the actors are older despite being in a prequel show? I find it most noticeable myself for Giancarlo Esposito (Gus) but it doesn't throw me off.

    It turns out a big weight difference is the thing that will distract me the most.

    Talking of appearances, gotta say, I didn’t notice Bryan Cranston’s skull cap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,641 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    The only problem being Todd was dead at the end of Breaking Bad, Jessie killed him

    Yeah but that was still in the timeline of the Nazi gang, they were on a weekend break and it just being Todd and Jesse, it looks like it was after Andrea's death too as Todd threatened to hurt Brock if Jesse didn't comply.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Watched it tonight and have to agree with the posters saying it was fine, but little more than that.

    The flashbacks generally felt like unnecessary fan service, but I suppose without them the movie would have been the length of the average episode.

    Didn't notice Walt's bald cap but Todd's weight gain and aging took me out of it a bit - not so far as to go calling it nonsense twitter-speak like "body shaming" - but they should have tried to address it somehow given the time setting.

    I didn't think it added anything, but I will say I enjoyed it more than most of the previous season of BCS - now that's padding!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Watched it tonight and have to agree with the posters saying it was fine, but little more than that.

    The flashbacks generally felt like unnecessary fan service, but I suppose without them the movie would have been the length of the average episode.

    Didn't notice Walt's bald cap but Todd's weight gain and aging took me out of it a bit - not so far as to go calling it nonsense twitter-speak like "body shaming" - but they should have tried to address it somehow given the time setting.

    I didn't think it added anything, but I will say I enjoyed it more than most of the previous season of BCS - now that's padding!

    I didn’t really enjoy any season of BCS! I only purposely watched the first 1.5 series then realised I was finding it a drag. Just not compelling. Snippets caught when my husband watches it haven’t changed my mind.

    I once read a TV critic actually apologise for not really liking BCS. What in the fuck? Since when do critics apologise? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,501 ✭✭✭✭Slydice


    :eek: You missed Kim falling asleep!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Slydice wrote: »
    :eek: You missed Kim falling asleep!

    Ah shite. That could have been opinion-changing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Skullface McGubbin


    Just finished watching it and I felt a little underwhelmed by it though. I felt that they left it too late and probably would have been better as an episode right just after the official final episode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭trashcan


    Ah shite. That could have been opinion-changing.

    She was driving a car at the time though!!

    I like BCS. It’s not as fast moving or “hooky” as BB, but it’s characters are very good. Like the relationship between Jimmy and Kim, and also Jimmy and Chuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,213 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    trashcan wrote: »
    She was driving a car at the time though!!

    I like BCS. It’s not as fast moving or “hooky” as BB, but it’s characters are very good. Like the relationship between Jimmy and Kim, and also Jimmy and Chuck.

    Chuck's scene in the courtroom from Season 3 is one of the best scenes from the entire Breaking Bad universe. Mike's episode from Season 1 where his history is revealed is also really magnificent.

    BCS is a fantastic show. It's much slower than BB was and without as much payoff, but when it hits those highs it really is terrific TV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Penn wrote: »
    Chuck's scene in the courtroom from Season 3 is one of the best scenes from the entire Breaking Bad universe. Mike's episode from Season 1 where his history is revealed is also really magnificent.

    BCS is a fantastic show. It's much slower than BB was and without as much payoff, but when it hits those highs it really is terrific TV.

    Agreed.

    I think the reason it doesn't have as much of a payoff is that instead of characters like Tuco and Gus, the main antagonist is Chuck and given the fact that he is nowhere near as dangerous or psychotic or the former, the tension isn't as strong.

    BCS did drag out a lot for me by way of Chuck's story, Jimmy's story etc. Mike's story though was very good and I find that I enjoy it more when they focus on the BB characters rather than Jimmy, Chuck etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Penn wrote: »
    Chuck's scene in the courtroom from Season 3 is one of the best scenes from the entire Breaking Bad universe. Mike's episode from Season 1 where his history is revealed is also really magnificent.

    BCS is a fantastic show. It's much slower than BB was and without as much payoff, but when it hits those highs it really is terrific TV.

    It's too slow. I gave up waiting for it to build to something, will most likely binge watch it later and it will probably be better then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Fago123


    Surprised by all the underwhelmed reactions here, I thought it was superb and has been rattling around in my head every since I saw it.

    I also find this attitude of "I didn't need it" or "a story that didn't need to be told" or "pointless" so strange. The creator/showrunner/brain behind one of the greatest shows of all time has an artistic itch and need to write and direct another chapter of a masterpiece and some people have the arrogance to shrug and say "nah, I don't need that". So weird.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I liked it, not something I'm going to watch again for a while though.


    At the end of BB I was happy knowing Jessie rode off in the sunset, which is essentially the same feeling I have after watching this. Interesting to see how he got there though and the tie backs to the flashbacks. We got to see more of what happened while Walt was up north.

    But he went from having PTSD in the shower to being grand way to quick for my liking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,917 ✭✭✭nix


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    But he went from having PTSD in the shower to being grand way to quick for my liking.

    heh, he was going in and out of phases like that since the end of season 3, i think hes got a handle on overcoming crazy **** :D

    But yeah i was a bit underwhelmed by it all, the flashbacks are where it shined, everything else in between was meh, a nice send off i guess, would have been better doing it a year or two after the show ended maybe..

    Was hoping we would get to see how Skylar, Jnr and Marie were getting on..

    In the end, it didnt really add much, an artistic itch? Felt more like a financial itch :(:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    trashcan wrote: »
    She was driving a car at the time though!!

    I like BCS. It’s not as fast moving or “hooky” as BB, but it’s characters are very good. Like the relationship between Jimmy and Kim, and also Jimmy and Chuck.

    This is probably going to draw ire but I don’t think Bob Odenkirk is a good enough actor to carry a show. I just didn’t believe him a lot of the time in the bit of BCS I watched. And he was and is surrounded by considerable acting talent (Banks, McKean, Seehorn, Esposito etc.) and that highlights his shortcomings even more. to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,928 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Fago123 wrote: »
    Surprised by all the underwhelmed reactions here, I thought it was superb and has been rattling around in my head every since I saw it.

    I also find this attitude of "I didn't need it" or "a story that didn't need to be told" or "pointless" so strange. The creator/showrunner/brain behind one of the greatest shows of all time has an artistic itch and need to write and direct another chapter of a masterpiece and some people have the arrogance to shrug and say "nah, I don't need that". So weird.

    Hang on now.... BB is one of the top shows of all time yes, but this God-like reverence that some fans have for Vince Gilligan is just bizarre

    BCS has proven that he's just as capable of making missteps as anyone else. It's a decent show (mostly held together by Mike IMO) but Jimmy/Saul was a guest star/minor character that didn't really need several seasons of backstory.

    The Kim character is awful I think and drags most scenes she's in, Gilligan is a bit fond of indulgent scenes to pad out running times on occasion, and as of the last season finalé, Jimmy/Saul/Mike/Gus are pretty much exactly where they need to be for BB S1E01, yet we're going to try and drag ANOTHER season out of it? Unless it skips to post-BB Saul, it's a ridiculous move.

    Anyway, all my opinion, but Vince Gilligan is not immune from criticism no more than any other show/creator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Hang on now.... BB is one of the top shows of all time yes, but this God-like reverence that some fans have for Vince Gilligan is just bizarre

    BCS has proven that he's just as capable of making missteps as anyone else. It's a decent show (mostly held together by Mike IMO) but Jimmy/Saul was a guest star/minor character that didn't really need several seasons of backstory.

    The Kim character is awful I think and drags most scenes she's in, Gilligan is a bit fond of indulgent scenes to pad out running times on occasion, and as of the last season finalé, Jimmy/Saul/Mike/Gus are pretty much exactly where they need to be for BB S1E01, yet we're going to try and drag ANOTHER season out of it? Unless it skips to post-BB Saul, it's a ridiculous move.

    Anyway, all my opinion, but Vince Gilligan is not immune from criticism no more than any other show/creator.

    Many people say BCS is better than BB. I mean, that’s their opinion but I’m just thinking “WTF?”. My husband watches both shows but where he’d be impatiently waiting for the next series of BB, often he has not even known that the new series of BCS has been released. He likes it in a “this is enjoyably diverting” kind of way.

    I find the critical praise for BCS so over the top. And I hate the small number of BCS fans who say that BB fans who don’t like it only don’t because there’s less violence and it isn’t showy enough. My favourite parts of BB were the slower, more contemplative parts and I sometimes skip over violent scenes on rewatch. I just don’t think the story is all that compelling in BCS. I’ve also heard people say “Give it a chance, BB didn’t pick up until a few series in!”. Huh? I found it compelling from the very first episode. When the ‘Ken Wins’ guy was brought back in BCS, I was done. Now, that was pointless fan service.


  • Registered Users Posts: 173 ✭✭Fago123


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Hang on now.... BB is one of the top shows of all time yes, but this God-like reverence that some fans have for Vince Gilligan is just bizarre

    BCS has proven that he's just as capable of making missteps as anyone else. It's a decent show (mostly held together by Mike IMO) but Jimmy/Saul was a guest star/minor character that didn't really need several seasons of backstory.

    The Kim character is awful I think and drags most scenes she's in, Gilligan is a bit fond of indulgent scenes to pad out running times on occasion, and as of the last season finalé, Jimmy/Saul/Mike/Gus are pretty much exactly where they need to be for BB S1E01, yet we're going to try and drag ANOTHER season out of it? Unless it skips to post-BB Saul, it's a ridiculous move.

    Anyway, all my opinion, but Vince Gilligan is not immune from criticism no more than any other show/creator.


    Never said Gilligan was immune from criticism, my post was relating to Breaking Bad and the fact some people are taking a bizarre stance of "I don't need any more" like their viewing needs trump the actual creative need of the person who gave us a masterpiece!

    I also believe Better Call Saul is waaaayyy above "decent", its excellent (and Peter Gould is showrunner for BCS, not Gilligan)

    And finally yes, he is a god :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 508 ✭✭✭Scott Tenorman


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    I liked it, not something I'm going to watch again for a while though.


    At the end of BB I was happy knowing Jessie rode off in the sunset, which is essentially the same feeling I have after watching this. Interesting to see how he got there though and the tie backs to the flashbacks. We got to see more of what happened while Walt was up north.

    But he went from having PTSD in the shower to being grand way to quick for my liking.

    Essentially all this film did was tell the story of where Jessie got the money to ride off into sunset.

    I thought it wasn't much good TBH, shame


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭trashcan


    This is probably going to draw ire but I don’t think Bob Odenkirk is a good enough actor to carry a show. I just didn’t believe him a lot of the time in the bit of BCS I watched. And he was and is surrounded by considerable acting talent (Banks, McKean, Seehorn, Esposito etc.) and that highlights his shortcomings even more. to me.

    I wouldn't agree at all. I think Bob Odenkirk is a fine actor, and Jimmy a very watchable character. I don't get the hate for Kim either. And the Chuck/Jimmy dynamic was great while it lasted. It's probably a lesser show without Chuck. A Jesse/Saul link up would have improved El Camino greatly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    Probably like a few others I was half way through and decided to go back and watch final episode, then continued with half of film ....

    I thought it was good .... 7/10


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    I liked it. But it really did just feel like a long episode of Breaking Bad. It wasn't really a film in its own right.

    It was nice to see Jesse ride off into the sunset/Alaskan snow.
    But Breaking Bad ended with him driving away to safety. So story wise this movie felt a little redundant.

    It also reminded me of my biggest criticism of Breaking Bad, even though I think it was a superb show.
    Jesse cries and whimpers and mopes a bit too much for my liking. I know it's his character, but he gets emotional so much, like he's up there with a toddler for how often he breaks down completely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Screw Attack


    I liked it. But it really did just feel like a long episode of Breaking Bad. It wasn't really a film in its own right.

    It was nice to see Jesse ride off into the sunset/Alaskan snow.
    But Breaking Bad ended with him driving away to safety. So story wise this movie felt a little redundant.

    It also reminded me of my biggest criticism of Breaking Bad, even though I think it was a superb show.
    Jesse cries and whimpers and mopes a bit too much for my liking. I know it's his character, but he gets emotional so much, like he's up there with a toddler for how often he breaks down completely.
    I liked it. But it really did just feel like a long episode of Breaking Bad. It wasn't really a film in its own right.

    It was nice to see Jesse ride off into the sunset/Alaskan snow.
    But Breaking Bad ended with him driving away to safety. So story wise this movie felt a little redundant.

    What are you talking about? Did you even watch the film? He may "driven away to safety" from Jack's compound but he's a man who is completely trapped. His choice and will are taken away from him, and the story is about him fighting to take back his freedom. I can't see how that's redundant. Also, the flashbacks with Todd are superb, the tarantula may be literal as Drew Sharp's pet/Todd's kill trophy?, but in the film's iteration it's another symbolic reminder of Jesse trapped like a creature. Seen later as him allowing the insect to crawl up his hand, and hiding behind Kandy's compound like a feral dog. Feral dog? Maybe "problem dog"?. Anyway, I rewatched it and enjoyed it the second time. My complaint would be the the television iteration of the characters featured are stronger given the span and scope, and the relationship we had with them. It's a glaring flaw that the film has to deal with, but ignoring that connection, it still holds up as a good piece of TV art house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Loved it. Found myself really just wanting it to turn out ok for Jessie.

    Some extra character development with the todd flashbacks, and the hose scene etc really gruesome stuff

    Loved being back in that universe for a time.

    Felina was obviously very Heisenberg focused so it was nice for Jessie to get some time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    It also reminded me of my biggest criticism of Breaking Bad, even though I think it was a superb show.
    Jesse cries and whimpers and mopes a bit too much for my liking. I know it's his character, but he gets emotional so much, like he's up there with a toddler for how often he breaks down completely.

    Jesse's breaking down so often is supposed to show the effect that Walt and his actions is having on him.

    It also shows how Jesse cares about people vs how Walt doesn't really give a sh!t about anyone until it comes to his own family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Fago123 wrote: »
    Surprised by all the underwhelmed reactions here, I thought it was superb and has been rattling around in my head every since I saw it.

    I also find this attitude of "I didn't need it" or "a story that didn't need to be told" or "pointless" so strange. The creator/showrunner/brain behind one of the greatest shows of all time has an artistic itch and need to write and direct another chapter of a masterpiece and some people have the arrogance to shrug and say "nah, I don't need that". So weird.

    It wasn't needed the ending of this was the same as the TV series. Jesse riding away free, everything else in between added nothing to the show.

    Another thing that really annoyed me was when the **** did he turn into such a badass? He was pretty much a screw up throughout the whole show and then we are meant to believe he can shoot everyone, blow up a building with Walt like levels of precision.

    It was fun to watch but its hard to argue against the fact it was pointless.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,854 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    rob316 wrote: »
    Another thing that really annoyed me was when the **** did he turn into such a badass? He was pretty much a screw up throughout the whole show and then we are meant to believe he can shoot everyone, blow up a building with Walt like levels of precision.

    He learned a lot from Walt and after his being held captive by Todd and his uncle's gang obviously broke him to the extent that he just didn't care any more because he had lost so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,981 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    rob316 wrote: »
    Another thing that really annoyed me was when the **** did he turn into such a badass?

    Probably around the time he was treated like an animal and tortured by the Nazis, had the woman that he loved murdered just to teach him a lesson and the threat that Brock would be next. Also the welding guy was connected to the Nazis and built that contraption for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,983 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    breaking bad has always been quite mechanical and Deus ex machina but the guy out of nowhere suggesting a duel? come on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,644 ✭✭✭Penfailed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Well?

    Well it still left lots of questions unanswered, like what happened Skyler, Walt junior, Hanks wife? did they get on with their lives?....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo


    What are you talking about? Did you even watch the film? He may "driven away to safety" from Jack's compound but he's a man who is completely trapped. His choice and will are taken away from him, and the story is about him fighting to take back his freedom. I can't see how that's redundant. Also, the flashbacks with Todd are superb, the tarantula may be literal as Drew Sharp's pet/Todd's kill trophy?, but in the film's iteration it's another symbolic reminder of Jesse trapped like a creature. Seen later as him allowing the insect to crawl up his hand, and hiding behind Kandy's compound like a feral dog. Feral dog? Maybe "problem dog"?. Anyway, I rewatched it and enjoyed it the second time. My complaint would be the the television iteration of the characters featured are stronger given the span and scope, and the relationship we had with them. It's a glaring flaw that the film has to deal with, but ignoring that connection, it still holds up as a good piece of TV art house.

    I really don't want to be overly critical of a film and show that I enjoyed. But Breaking Bad ended with Walt laying dead and Jesse getting away. This film ended with Walt confirmed dead and Jesse getting away. It didn't really add anything to the overall narrative.
    I mean we got 62 episodes of story from the show (yes I did Google it :)). Having flashbacks be such a core part of the movie felt silly. Why is there a need for Mike and Walt to be part of it? They are both dead, it doesn't progress anything forward.
    Jesse's breaking down so often is supposed to show the effect that Walt and his actions is having on him.

    It also shows how Jesse cares about people vs how Walt doesn't really give a sh!t about anyone until it comes to his own family.

    I do like the contrast that it shows between the characters of Jesse and Walt in how much they care about people. They both made and sold the meth, they both kill people, but there is a strong inherent difference between them both morally and ethically.
    Jesse whinging happens less so in this film compared to the show. But it came back to me strongly just how annoying Jesse was with his moping around episode after episode. Like he must have cried/broken down more times than any other character ever that is part of such a successful show.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭Jurgen The German


    Meh.

    Meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh.

    Filler.

    The perfect ending has been tarnished by $$$$$.

    The
    Walter scene
    was so as tacked on as any fan appeasing moment in film or TV history and imo utterly cheapened the wonderful work that went before. So disappointed with this. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,434 ✭✭✭Homelander


    I have to say I was very disappointed. It's not to say it's not good, because I enjoyed it, but it's heavily padded and ultimately adds virtually nothing to the end of Breaking Bad, and is far too heavy-handed with the fan service too. I think coming from the amazing Better Call Saul, I expected something deeper, more meaningful, and a lot more intelligently crafted. Worth watching and it is certainly good.....but fell short of what I had expected.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    breaking bad has always been quite mechanical and Deus ex machina but the guy out of nowhere suggesting a duel? come on

    He was coked off his tits...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Meh.

    Meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh, meh.

    Filler.

    The perfect ending has been tarnished by $$$$$.

    The
    Walter scene
    was so as tacked on as any fan appeasing moment in film or TV history and imo utterly cheapened the wonderful work that went before. So disappointed with this. :(

    The film was unnecessary but I liked the Walter cameo, mainly because I was expecting it, and expecting it to be some some sort of flashback/hallucination to Walt scolding Jesse for not applying himself.

    For it to be a flashback about how lost Walt was and depressed about how his life had turned out, was quite beautiful. It was actually the only thing I loved about the film.


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