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Peter Casey believes Travellers should not be recognised as an ethnic minority

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    #1502
    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    jmayo wrote: »
    Ehh it has been shoved down the pecking order of the website during the day.
    Same with major newspapers.
    His visit to Thurles pushed it back up.

    Ha ha yes that damn lügenpresse.


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    #1503
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Liath Ni Riadha has just declared her kinship with Irish travelers with herself also being from a marginalised community here in Ireland...

    The Gaeltacht

    Ffs
    #metooboss


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    #1504
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    elperello wrote:
    Amazing that he is attracting a following. After the election people who have problems with travelers will still be as badly off as they are today. But I expect most of you know that.


    He has repeatedly stated he wants everyone regardless of ethnicity treated the same, seriously what's the problem with that sentiment. Why should any section of society enjoy advantage over the rest of society. Genuine question.


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    #1505
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    That sounds like most law abiding citizens to me tbh. No need to be labelled as Travellers at all.

    But the non law abiding Travellers are labelling themselves.

    All Casey was pitching for was equal treatment for all. That is not happening wrt Travellers, everyone is afraid of them so get away with all sorts. And they are entitled..... to houses and horses and stables and all. They in fact leave the rest of us "vulnerable", but oh no, they are called the most vulnerable in society. If I didn't laugh I'd cry.


    Thank you yet again, boards, for letting us have this discussion without the trolls.

    As you can see we are not ranting the above post for example just shows we are all just at the end of our ropes.:(


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    #1506
    patmac
    Registered Users Posts: 7,567 ✭✭✭patmac


    Just saw the news there, 6 brand new houses costing €1.7m sitting idle, while lots of homeless families have to sleep rough in Garda Stations etc.
    Where is the outcry from Paul Murphy etc. Also if Tipp Council give in, then every traveller will have to have land for their horses, increasing govt expenditure further.


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    #1507
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    patmac wrote: »
    Just saw the news there, 6 brand new houses costing €1.7m sitting idle, while lots of homeless families have to sleep rough in Garda Stations etc.
    Where is the outcry from Paul Murphy etc. Also if Tipp Council give in, then every traveller will have to have land for their horses, increasing govt expenditure further.

    The same non existent outcry when they inflict cruelty on their horses


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    #1508
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Casey is a candidate in the election for President of Ireland.
    Tipperary County Council is the body with responsibility for the situation in Thurles.

    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected.
    Real politics is the answer to our problems not the sham politics of Casey


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    #1509
    Discodog
    Registered Users Posts: 15,830 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    elperello wrote: »
    Casey is a candidate in the election for President of Ireland.
    Tipperary County Council is the body with responsibility for the situation in Thurles.

    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected.
    Real politics is the answer to our problems not the sham politics of Casey

    Real Politics are too afraid.


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    #1510
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    elperello wrote: »
    Casey is a candidate in the election for President of Ireland.
    Tipperary County Council is the body with responsibility for the situation in Thurles.

    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected.
    Real politics is the answer to our problems not the sham politics of Casey

    And real politics has left us in the mess we're in.


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    #1511
    Bunny Colvin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    elperello wrote: »
    Casey is a candidate in the election for President of Ireland.
    Tipperary County Council is the body with responsibility for the situation in Thurles.

    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected.
    Real politics is the answer to our problems not the sham politics of Casey

    Casey is making it his issue. Fair play to him.


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    #1512
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    You can't be so beaten down that you want to follow this clown down a cul de sac.


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    #1513
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    elperello wrote:
    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected. Real politics is the answer to our problems not the sham politics of Casey


    I'll ask you again or maybe you missed it the first time. Do you think it's right for one section of society to have an advantage over the rest of society. Still a genuine question.


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    #1514
    autumngirl
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    Judson Fierce Syringe wrote: »
    A question for those who will now vote for Casey because he "has the balls to say what everyone is thinking".

    Why would his feeling towards travellers be the deciding factor in your vote ? What do you expect him to do about travellers when he becomes president?

    Speak the truth


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    #1515
    Brendan Bendar
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    patmac wrote: »
    Just saw the news there, 6 brand new houses costing €1.7m sitting idle, while lots of homeless families have to sleep rough in Garda Stations etc.
    Where is the outcry from Paul Murphy etc. Also if Tipp Council give in, then every traveller will have to have land for their horses, increasing govt expenditure further.

    Nailed it there Pat, called out the bullhorn brigade .

    Well done.


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    #1516
    jace_da_face
    Registered Users Posts: 480 ✭✭jace_da_face


    elperello wrote: »
    Casey is a candidate in the election for President of Ireland.
    Tipperary County Council is the body with responsibility for the situation in Thurles.

    The President has no role in these matters no matter who gets elected.
    ….

    I don't think many will dispute that. The same would apply to almost any matter of Irish society discussed in the presidential debates.

    Nonetheless, a lot of people are praising Casey for making brave and rational statements, not towing the PC line and not backing down.


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    #1517
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    I'll ask you again or maybe you missed it the first time. Do you think it's right for one section of society to have an advantage over the rest of society. Still a genuine question.

    Certain sectors have advantages over other sectors in every society.
    It is part of the job of politicians to make society fairer.

    Casey is part of the problem with politics not the answer.


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    #1518
    JeffKenna
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    elperello wrote: »
    Certain sectors have advantages over other sectors in every society.
    It is part of the job of politicians to make society fairer.

    Casey is part of the problem with politics not the answer.

    That makes zero sense.


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    #1519
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    elperello wrote:
    Certain sectors have advantages over other sectors in every society. It is part of the job of politicians to make society fairer.

    From what I can see all Casey is calling for is fairness
    elperello wrote:
    Casey is part of the problem with politics not the answer.

    He's not a politician and the Presidency is non political.


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    #1520
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    That makes zero sense.

    You are not being charged by the word.


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    #1521
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    elperello wrote: »
    You are not being charged by the word.

    Now you're not making sense!


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    #1522
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    patmac wrote: »
    Just saw the news there, 6 brand new houses costing €1.7m sitting idle, while lots of homeless families have to sleep rough in Garda Stations etc.
    Where is the outcry from Paul Murphy etc. Also if Tipp Council give in, then every traveller will have to have land for their horses, increasing govt expenditure further.


    According to RTE these houses are "unsuitable" for the 6 Travellers.

    At €290K a pop, how are they unsuitable to put a roof over the heads of the travellers ?


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    #1523
    Silent Running
    Registered Users Posts: 2,818 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Vizzy wrote: »
    According to RTE these houses are "unsuitable" for the 6 Travellers.

    At €290K a pop, how are they unsuitable to put a roof over the heads of the travellers ?

    Fine, no problem. Give them to homeless families then. Job done!


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    #1524
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    JeffKenna wrote: »
    Now you're not making sense!

    Just refute my point.


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    #1525
    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,397 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Hitman3000 wrote: »
    From what I can see all Casey is calling for is fairness


    He's not a politician and the Presidency is non political.

    We don't need Casey to have fairness.


    Tell him he is not a politician and the Presidency is non political.


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    #1526
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Vizzy wrote: »
    According to RTE these houses are "unsuitable" for the 6 Travellers.

    At €290K a pop, how are they unsuitable to put a roof over the heads of the travellers ?

    hmmmm.....yeah....I can see how they're much worse than the caravans they're currently living in....


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    #1527
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Who would you suggest to ensure fairness in relation to the travellers ?


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    #1528
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,518 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    elperello wrote: »
    Just refute my point.

    I refute your point.


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    #1529
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    wexie wrote: »
    hmmmm.....yeah....I can see how they're much worse than the caravans they're currently living in....

    But,sure the caravans are part of their culture.

    BTW, these caravans haven't travelled an inch since they were put at Cabragh Bridge.


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    #1530
    [Deleted User]
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    It's unsettling the amount of people who like Casey because "he says it like it is". That's what exactly Trump supporters said.


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    #1531
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's unsettling the amount of people who like Casey because "he says it like it is". That's what exactly Trump supporters said.

    You would prefer if he just spouted the populist line ?


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