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Radiation therapy is not disinfectant. So not sure what point you are trying to make. It also doesn't work by cleaning or poisoning. It's destructive on a cellular level, to all cells,Grizzly 45 wrote: »Does "chemothreapy"and "radium treatment" ring any bells with people?In the latter case thats stuff that is injected into the human body ,thats then containers are then disposed of as low level nucelar waste!
Injection sites are disinfected prior to injection. I've never heard of in being in injections. Do you have a source for that? I'd be very surprised if it was ever the active ingredient.Also there is a certain amount of disinfectants in any injectable medication,along with a few other things like mercury in some.
Yes it is a cancer treatment. In that case, a drug is absorbed by cancer cells and kills them. A drug kills the cells, not light.Photodynamic light threapy is also a thing too.
None of those examples give any credibility to what he said though. Regardless, he can't use that justification anymore as he claimed he wasn't serious.So while maybe expressed clumsily by president Trump ,he isn't away with the fairies that much on the genaralities.Nor did he say to go away and do it as laypeople,as the dictation has shown.But there will be Darwin canditates that will drink their fishtank nedication or go chug bleach despite plenty of warnings not to."CuZ da PreSIDuT dun Said Its mEDicNE!"
People will hear what they are told to hear,not what they are actully hearing.
He wasn't advising people to treat themselves, I never calmed he was
The risk that somebody tries it is tiny, and unrelated to why it was idiotic.
He was asking his medical staff to "look into that" as an option. It's not his job to come up with treatment ideas, and to throw them out as possibles, least of all on live TV. I don't know why he said it, maybe it was simply foolish eagerness, or it's gross in competence.
Nobody is being told he said that, he said it on TV. I'm a bit surprised that you would chose to defend those statements. The left media gives him a hard time, but this is not a time when it's undeserved.0 -
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Radiation therapy is not disinfectant. So not sure what point you are trying to make. It also doesn't work by cleaning or poisoning. It's destructive on a cellular level, to all cells,
Point is you are injecting /irradiating a radioactive substance into your body,a highly toxic substance that is known to be hazardous to your health ,but otoh it has benefical propeties to deal with cancer.So iow toxic items used properly can be benefical.Got a shot of anti coagulant today,made proably from a snake venom.Ididnt get bitten by a Cobra in surgery,but it is a highly toxic that is of benefit when refined .so why would it be so odd to suggest other toxic items might not be used in the future?After all we now use leeches,maggots and bleeding for different treatments these days too Somthing we would have laughed at 60 years ago as well.
Injection sites are disinfected prior to injection. I've never heard of in being in injections. Do you have a source for that? I'd be very surprised if it was ever the active ingredient.
Mercury,cadimum,chlorine has been used as disenfectent in vaccines.Google it.
Yes it is a cancer treatment. In that case, a drug is absorbed by cancer cells and kills them. A drug kills the cells, not light
Do you know what drug it is??Its highly toxic.Be another chapter in my memoirs about 2 infamous doctors in a nice town on Lough Derg who used to offer this treatment,and how one became a scapegoat and the other got away with literal murder.So I got to learn alot about it and how it is still banned here.
He wasn't advising people to treat themselves, I never calmed he was The risk that somebody tries it is tiny, and unrelated to why it was idiotic.
Google the idiots who went and drank chlorquine fish tank cleaner because Trump said chloriquine could be a possible treatment.
So never undestimate idiocy out there
He was asking his medical staff to "look into that" as an option. It's not his job to come up with treatment ideas, and to throw them out as possibles, least of all on live TV. I don't know why he said it, maybe it was simply foolish eagerness, or it's gross in competence.
Nobody is being told he said that, he said it on TV. I'm a bit surprised that you would chose to defend those statements. The left media gives him a hard time, but this is not a time when it's undeserved.
I m defending it because its again a "bash orange man bad".Unless you are an utter simpleton,anyone who goes and drinks pure bleach themselves ,a chemical of known toxicity ....Just a pity they will be taking up scarsce medical resources and personel time that could be used for better.And go and read the text of what he said,unless you have the intellect of a very small soap dish,you cannot equate what he said as advice or anything of the like."If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."
Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "
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In most cases, the difference between medicine and lethal is simply the dose. The reason they work as medicine is because there's a pathway form them to heel. not an expert, but I'm not aware of any pathway for disinfectant to cleanse internally. However, Trumps's medical expert looked pretty mortified at the suggestion. I'd assume they are aware radiation therapy.Grizzly 45 wrote: »Point is you are injecting /irradiating a radioactive substance into your body,a highly toxic substance that is known to be hazardous to your health ,but otoh it has benefical propeties to deal with cancer.So iow toxic items used properly can be benefical.Got a shot of anti coagulant today,made proably from a snake venom.Ididnt get bitten by a Cobra in surgery,but it is a highly toxic that is of benefit when refined .so why would it be so odd to suggest other toxic items might not be used in the future?
Regardless, he said he wasn't serious, so that justification is negated.
I did google. I only form historical uses, pre antibiotics, a few deaths etc.Mercury,cadimum,chlorine has been used as disenfectent in vaccines.Google it.
Yes, most treatments work by damaging cancers cells, the dose is critical. But this applies to all medicine. In fact, even water is toxic at a high dose.Do you know what drug it is??Its highly toxic.Be another chapter in my memoirs about 2 infamous doctors in a nice town on Lough Derg who used to offer this treatment,and how one became a scapegoat and the other got away with literal murder.So I got to learn alot about it and how it is still banned here.
That doesn't imply all toxic substances are medicine, or give credibility to the idea of disinfectant/sanitiser to cleanse the internal body.
I've no doubt people are that stupid. But that's their own fault. I don't blame Trump for that.Google the idiots who went and drank chlorquine fish tank cleaner because Trump said chloriquine could be a possible treatment.
So never undestimate idiocy out there
But you are right, people are stupid and desperate out there. And even though Trump didn't say to drink it, it would be more intelligent to be cognisant of his audience.
I never said it was adviceI'm defending it because its again a "bash orange man bad".Unless you are an utter simpleton,anyone who goes and drinks pure bleach themselves ,a chemical of known toxicity ....Just a pity they will be taking up scarsce medical resources and personel time that could be used for better.And go and read the text of what he said,unless you have the intellect of a very small soap dish,you cannot equate what he said as advice or anything of the like. In fact I said the opposite.
My criticism has nothing to do with idiots drinking it. That was something you brought up, not me. That entire point is a strawman.
Trumps "suggestion to look into it" was idiotic in it's own right. Nothing to do with people drinking it or not. It's not his position to spitball ideas on stage. We both know why he is doing it though.
Also Trump being deadpan sarcastic at a press conference, on such a serious topic, is beyond inappropriate. I don't believe he was sarcastic obviously, but the alternative is that he's lying which isn't exactly better.
This is not "Orange Man" bashing. That does happen of course, he gets flack when he shouldn't. But this was a genuinely idiotic moment, and should be highlight as such. Blind blame, is just as bad as blind support. I know that's the way in US politics. But the intelligent debate happens in the middle.0 -
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The king of virtue signallers and blackface enthusiast Trudope, bans ar's in Canada. Even though the recent mass shooting had nothing to do with ar's, civilian gun ownership etc, being committed by a police firearm. But as the Clintons say "Never let a crisis go to waste". And to think, this guy is who Varadkar was trying to emulate. :rolleyes:
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Was I disappointed because the mainstream media covered-up many of the details of the atrocity? No.
What had me disappointed is this - Trudeau's gun ban paints all Canadian legal shooters as potential mass killers.
Because Trudeau wants to pay and "licence" news outlets, television news channels mainly, in a "Battle against fake news". Strikes me as an attack on the freedom of the press, which is one of the cornerstones of democracy, along with free speech, which he has also attacked.
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He was also dressed as a cop, used a cop/fake cop car to go around doing his evil deeds, and the police never warned the public for the 12 hours this was happening not to leave their homes or answer the door.The killer had three guns, apparently two were illegally obtained from the US and the third was the handgun he took from the police officer he killed; he never had a gun licence. The gun types were a rifle, a shotgun and the above handgun.
He then proceeded to set fires to homes and building and 9 of the 22 dead died due to fire related issues.
Wonder how the police feel about loosing their AR-15 platform rifles because if they're only designed for the "mass shooting of people" then surely there won't be doubled standards and allowing the police to own these "means of mass murder" while the public are disarmed?"These guns are designed to do only one thing - the mass killing of people"
Or could it be a case of disarming the public because the Government simply don't trust their citizens and are using this event to implement an already planned ban on these firearms?
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