Vegans vegans everywhere

Wanderer78 · 27-01-2018 9:55am

pconn062 wrote:

In my own case, I'm not vegan but I've been a vegetarian for a few years now. However when meeting new people or working with other people I generally try to avoid mentioning it or going out for food as its nearly always leads to the same tired questioning of, why do you not eat meat, do you ever miss it, how can you live without it, oh I couldn't do what you do, I love bacon ha ha ha. People are so original.

What are you finding to be the benefits of it are?

FTA69 · 27-01-2018 10:17am

SCRUB wrote: »

Ever read an articles about cancer and red meat ? I bet you you have read loads. Ever wonder why it's ignored.

With the rates of cancer these days someone you love will be affected and see what you believe then.

Society is a broken today as money wins out. Veganism is gaining popularity for many reasons and is a very good thing for a bucket load of reasons.

But it will be a long day before paddy puts down his pint and breakfast roll.

I have actually. And there’s a number of problems with these. The first being they rarely differentiate between types of red meat making no difference between grass-fed beef for instance and low quality hot dogs; many argue that carcinogenic effects come from processed meat as opposed to natural lean cuts.

Secondly, they simply say “meat eaters have higher rates of x” without examining the whole diet of those people; as in how many of those meat eaters are drinking, smoking, eating deep fried food, sugar and other processed crap. Correlation doesn’t equal causation I believe the saying goes.

There’s nothing unhealthy per se about a steak.

pconn062 · 27-01-2018 10:27am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

What are you finding to be the benefits of it are?

For me, it was less about the health benefits. It was more that I just couldn't get my head around eating meat anymore for both moral and environmental reasons. My wife decided to do the same when I did so it's easier with both of us and we just stopped buying and cooking meat. But I haven't noticed any real health issues, I try to make sure to get all the major nutrients from different sources.

Wanderer78 · 27-01-2018 10:56am

pconn062 wrote: »

For me, it was less about the health benefits. It was more that I just couldn't get my head around eating meat anymore for both moral and environmental reasons. My wife decided to do the same when I did so it's easier with both of us and we just stopped buying and cooking meat. But I haven't noticed any real health issues, I try to make sure to get all the major nutrients from different sources.

probably a difficult question to answer, but have you noticed physical health benefits?

McMurphy · 27-01-2018 10:59am

Ironically, vegans that don't eat meat because they reckon doing so is poisoning the body and what not would prob taste great if you were into the old canabilsim.

Good fillet vegan and vegetables sir. Knock it into ye like a lump of kobe beef.

Shenshen · 27-01-2018 11:43am

em_cat wrote: »

Just to add in that a lot of vegans also seem to be gluten-free (by choice) which also means they are likely to be sugar free as well, meaning that they will substitute xylitol for sugar in their baking,

Xylitol kills dogs so beware...

Chocolate kills dogs, I'm not sure what you're trying to say?

And surely people trying to eat less sugar should be encouraged?

Shenshen · 27-01-2018 11:46am

Wanderer78 wrote: »

What are you finding to be the benefits of it are?

You save tons of money.
You generally have to worry a whole lot less about food poisoning.

eezipc · 27-01-2018 11:49am

Vladimir Poontang wrote: »

I work with a lot of vegans. Some of the most bitter, moody, joyless, hatchet faced, insufferable ***** imaginable.

They don't just need a good ****ing steak, they need a slap aswell.

You might need to have a look in the mirror. Your post seems very bitter, moody etc.

OldMrBrennan83 · 27-01-2018 11:52am

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Marty Bird · 27-01-2018 12:01pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

Almond milk, I ask ya? What the actual fook is that all about? I've never seen an almond with titties.

Ha aha classic!

El_Duderino 09 · 27-01-2018 12:38pm

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote:

Almond milk, I ask ya? What the actual fook is that all about? I've never seen an almond with titties.

Soak almonds in water. Put almonds and the water in the blender. = Almond milk.

Is it milk? Not really.

Is it almondy and delicious? Yip

c.p.w.g.w · 27-01-2018 12:47pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Soak almonds in water. Put almonds and the water in the blender. = Almond milk.

Is it milk? Not really.

Is it almondy and delicious? Yip

There is talks that they may not be able to call it milk anymore
https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/dairy-like-names-banned-for-vegan-products-within-eu

eezipc · 27-01-2018 2:46pm

Patww79 wrote: »

An awful lot of them do need a good slap though, a good shake at the very least.

Why so?

Shenshen · 27-01-2018 2:46pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

There is talks that they may not be able to call it milk anymore
https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/dairy-like-names-banned-for-vegan-products-within-eu

Heard about that and thought it was hilarious - milk is essentially an every-day phrase for a stable water and oil emulsion.
We have things like body milk (moisturiser), milk plants, we even have the milky way. Do we rename all of those, too, then?

El_Duderino 09 · 27-01-2018 2:49pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote:

There is talks that they may not be able to call it milk anymore

Shenshen wrote:

Heard about that and thought it was hilarious - milk is essentially an every-day phrase for a stable water and oil emulsion. We have things like body milk (moisturiser), milk plants, we even have the milky way. Do we rename all of those, too, then?

Nut milks must be eating into the diary market. Must be beginning to frighten the traditional mild industry if they're considering forcing them to rebrand.

Shenshen · 27-01-2018 2:51pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Nut milks must be eating into the diary market. Must be beginning to frighten the traditional mild industry if they're considering forcing them to rebrand.

Yes, but claiming that the word "milk" only refers to secretions from mammary glands - they haven't a leg to stand on with that.

El_Duderino 09 · 27-01-2018 2:55pm

Shenshen wrote:

Yes, but claiming that the word "milk" only refers to secretions from mammary glands - they haven't a leg to stand on with that.

Interesting point you make about all the other uses of the work milk.

I wouldn't mind one way or the other. At the very least nut milks are inoffensive and at best they are delicious in things like porridge. Homemade nit milk is a bit of a faf-on but it's absolutely delicious.

If there's a big long drawn out court case about the term 'milk' it will raise the profile of nut milks so the dairy industry is probably going to lose even if they win.

c.p.w.g.w · 27-01-2018 2:55pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Nut milks must be eating into the diary market. Must be beginning to frighten the traditional mild industry if they're considering forcing them to rebrand.

It certainly is the dairy industry is in trouble in certain parts of the world, where diary farmers have to double job

Shenshen · 27-01-2018 2:57pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Interesting point you make about all the other uses of the work milk.

I wouldn't mind one way or the other. At the very least nut milks are inoffensive and at best they are delicious in things like porridge. Homemade nit milk is a bit of a faf-on but it's absolutely delicious.

If there's a big long drawn out court case about the term 'milk' it will raise the profile of nut milks so the dairy industry is probably going to lose even if they win.

PLEASE tell me this was supposed to read "nut"

:D:D

dr.fuzzenstein · 27-01-2018 3:23pm

Funny how this thread is just full of people complaining about vegans.
No thread on Muslims or the Catholic church going?

El_Duderino 09 · 27-01-2018 4:25pm

Shenshen wrote:

PLEASE tell me this was supposed to read "nut"

Yeah it was. I typoed it as 'but milk' earlier too!

El_Duderino 09 · 27-01-2018 4:27pm

c.p.w.g.w wrote:

It certainly is the dairy industry is in trouble in certain parts of the world, where diary farmers have to double job

Nobody likes to see an industry shrink and people become unemployment. At the same time it's not our job to consume a product just to keep people in their job. Changing times I suppose

eviltwin · 27-01-2018 4:35pm

Shenshen wrote: »

Yes, but claiming that the word "milk" only refers to secretions from mammary glands - they haven't a leg to stand on with that.

Funny there has never been an issue with coconut milk, but as soon as plant milk get a foothold in the market the wording is an issue.

27-01-2018 4:37pm

eviltwin wrote: »

Funny there has never been an issue with coconut milk, but as soon as plant milk get a foothold in the market the wording is an issue.

I was just wondering the same thing. I dont think they're going to get far with reducing the use of the word milk to animal milk.

c.p.w.g.w · 27-01-2018 4:39pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Nobody likes to see an industry shrink and people become unemployment. At the same time it's not our job to consume a product just to keep people in their job. Changing times I suppose

Wasn't saying so, just backing up a point about the diary industry in fear of non dairy milk industry.

Snickers Man · 27-01-2018 7:40pm

Odelay wrote: »

I'm vegan intolerant.

Why? What do you care what other people eat?

Seems to me that some sensitive souls think that anybody doing something they themselves would not is rejecting their life-style values and implicitly condemning them in the most judgemental fashion.

Which is utter nonsense.

Now if by "vegan" you mean the sort of sniffy, judgemental bollox who refers to their food choices as "following an ethical diet" and constantly sneers at your suasages and hamburgers because of the threat they pose to the future viability of our planet, then fine. You can and should be intolerant of intolerance.

But I have never personally come across such a person. And have only ever heard of them in chat threads such as this. Which makes me doubt that they form any size of body of opinion at all.

dw2016 · 27-01-2018 7:56pm

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

c.p.w.g.w wrote:

It certainly is the dairy industry is in trouble in certain parts of the world, where diary farmers have to double job

Nobody likes to see an industry shrink and people become unemployment. At the same time it's not our job to consume a product just to keep people in their job. Changing times I suppose

Dairy milk consumption is increasing by about 2% every year so industry is growing! Problem is that supermarkets and big retailers like to sell milk as a loss leader and the farmer takes the hit for that!

SCRUB · 30-01-2018 11:56pm

FTA69 wrote: »

Correlation doesn’t equal causation I believe the saying goes.

There’s nothing unhealthy per se about a steak.

Right so I would suggest to read 'the China's study' which aims to do just that , show a cause between cancer and animal protien.

jh79 · 31-01-2018 9:54am

SCRUB wrote: »

Right so I would suggest to read 'the China's study' which aims to do just that , show a cause between cancer and animal protien.

And analysis of the raw data shows no significant correlation between the two and similar outcomes were observed with plant based proteins in terms of cancer.

There is no evidence of a vegan diet being healthier than a balanced diet than includes animal protein.

whisky_galore · 31-01-2018 10:51am

I just unfollow the vegans on my Arsebook friends list, when they start with the propaganda; sharing links, recipes and pics of their latest hamster food creation.

Vegans vegans everywhere

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