Vegans vegans everywhere

Bambi985

Are you one? Since when? And why? What's your daily conversion rate of normal-humans to vegans?

I recently read that the increase of vegans in the US is 600% over the last three years. I live in the UK and I'd say anecdotally we're definitely up there as well. Three lads in my office alone have been "reducing their meat consumption" in the last few months based on another lad discovering the joys of chickpeas and kale smoothies and pea protein powder and eating food that real food is supposed to eat. I was invited to a "vegan cocktail party" recently too, whatever the fook that is.

Can't wait to see what the next food craze will be. Paleo, gluten-free, veganism, what next? I'm curious about whether or not this vegan virus has spread to Ireland as well?

whiskeyman

You don't need to ask if there are vegans here.
They should have already told us...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Not since....oh! Vegan?

No.

eviltwin

Bambi985 wrote: »

Are you one? Since when? And why? What's your daily conversion rate of normal-humans to vegans?

I recently read that the increase of vegans in the US is 600% over the last three years. I live in the UK and I'd say anecdotally we're definitely up there as well. Three lads in my office alone have been "reducing their meat consumption" in the last few months based on another lad discovering the joys of chickpeas and kale smoothies and pea protein powder and eating food that real food is supposed to eat.

Can't wait to see what the next food craze will be. Paleo, gluten-free, veganism, what next? I'm curious about whether or not this vegan virus has spread to Ireland as well?

It's getting more popular alright but still quite rare.

Maybe it's a bad for some who knows.

I'm vegan two years, vegetarian for 24 yrs prior to that. I don't eat any of that funny stuff though.

Vladimir Poontang

I work with a lot of vegans. Some of the most bitter, moody, joyless, hatchet faced, insufferable ***** imaginable.

They don't just need a good ****ing steak, they need a slap aswell.

SEPT 23 1989

Another World War would put an end to these fads

whiskeyman

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Another World War would put an end to these fads

Wiped out by mushroom clouds!

The irony!

:pac:

Odelay

I'm vegan intolerant.

Tom Mann Centuria

Reducing your meat content does not make you a vegan, or even plastic vegan (vegetarians), it makes you an eatinglessmeatatarian.

erica74

I have a large number of problems with my health so veganism or vegetarianism just isn't an option for me.
I don't really mind vegans or vegetarians so long as they're not itching to start a row with me. You see it on social media quite a bit, from both sides of the "debate", someone will seek out a page dedicated to meat and throw around all their opinions and have a big raging row.

Bambi985

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Reducing your meat content does not not make you a vegan, or even plastic vegan (vegetarians), it makes you an eatinglessmeatatarian.

Nah at this stage they are full blown vegan but just not making the official announcement to avoid the vegan hate. Can't blame them really :pac:

Urindanger

One of the lads has become a pseudo vegan as he put it. Basically he eats fish and the rest is non animal products. I told him that's pescetarian but na it's pseudo vegan bro. What's worse is that he's only doing it because he has the arse whipped raw off him by this new girlfriend of his who's a diehard vegan.

I've no problem with them as long as they aren't so preachy and so ignorant towards non vegans and they keep their pesky hummus and guacamole away from me. I'd probably be open to it too but seems like too much hassle and I think I'd go mad without meat anyway.

rgodard80a

Bambi985 wrote: »

I recently read that the increase of vegans in the US is 600% over the last three years.

Statistics fool 100% of gullible people.

If there were 6 vegans 3 years ago and now there were 36, then there would be a 600% increase.

I love meat and dairy far too much to ever be a vegan but I do think there are some strong arguments in favour of adopting a vegan diet, provided one is both financially and physically able to do so. I hate the preachy militant "MEAT IS MURDER" type of vegan but I imagine the majority of vegans are not obnoxious about it. And of course the other side is that any time veganism is brought up, even if one just wants a respectful conversation about it, it inevitably draws braindead "hurr durr I'm gonna eat two extra bloody steaks now OLOLOLOL" types of comments. :rolleyes:

If you're vegan - grand but don't be a dick about it.
If you're not vegan - grand but don't be a dick about it.

Side note: Fúck anybody who puts their pet dog/cat on a vegan diet. That's literally animal abuse.
Side note 2: Fúck anybody who supports or is involved with PETA. Because people in PETA are scumbags who deserve to be trampled to death by the herds of cows they pretend to care about.

An tUasal C

Vegans are not normal-humans? :rolleyes:

I know a few people who "make more vegan choices". Seems fair enough to me.

Bambi985

Disappointed there aren't more vegans on this thread to be honest. Paging vegans, come in vegans, testing 1, 2, 3....

SEPT 23 1989

Neil out of the Young Ones is what I think of when I hear there is a vegan in my company

the_syco

I don't eat the food my food eats.

Mrs OBumble

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Reducing your meat content does not make you a vegan, or even plastic vegan (vegetarians), it makes you an eatinglessmeatatarian.

I believe the official phrase is reductionarism. Someone who eats fish but not other animal products is a pescatorian.

Politically I'd be a veggie. But I like meat too much. And besides, carrots have feelings too, uprooting one is no worse than killing a cow.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

But they drink water don’t they? That’s a fish’s house, sick fcuks

yerwanthere123

I have never seen a vegan thread in after hours before.

SnitchenBubs

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that suggests adopting a more plant based diet will greatly improve health.

Im not a vegan but I try to get the majority of my calories from plant sources.

Bambi985

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

I have never seen a vegan thread in after hours before.

Have ya not? Well I suppose then we can consider this thread a public service. You are welcome my good man.

Tidyboii

Recently discussed veganism with a very angry vegan. Couldn't accept that other people choose anything but, etc. I love a good quality lump of an animal on my plate. Especially when delivered from field to fork from my own actions. And it made me wonder are most vegans so angry because their just suffering a constant dose of hangry??

ednwireland

Was in Poland this summer was surprised at how many vegan restaurants and cafes there it was brilliant Ireland could learn a thing or two. (Declared interest here I'm vegetarian)

karenalot

I don’t eat much meat, simply because I like animals. I don’t care what others eat nor would I comment on it. However when I’m out for dinner with friends and order a veggie meal I get questioned like I’m an alcoholic off the drink. Why not, what’s wrong with you, how long have you been like this? You’d swear not eating animals was a crime!

Mtx

Would it be fair to be say guys that are vegan, tend to be less masculine?

Tidyboii

Mtx wrote: »

Would it be fair to be say guys that are vegan, tend to be less masculine?

Yep! But being a bit less masculine is the new vegan

The Undecided One

Gwynplaine

Mtx wrote: »

Would it be fair to be say guys that are vegan, tend to be less masculine?

Yes. Like the lad being whipped by his gf a few posts up.
I know a fella who has turned vegan because of his smelly hippy girlfriend. He reads poetry now and walks around the house with no shoes on. Watches chick flicks and eats plates of lettuce. He told me when the gf was away for a weekend one time he went straight to McDonald's, then had a feed of pints, and went for a big fry up the next morning.
Poor fella.

Wildsurfer

Heard lately that there was vegans handing out anti Dairy fliers outside an ice cream shop in Dublin. Now whatever about their motives being justified or not, but Jesus, a life without ice cream would be one dull existence.

Shenshen

I'm always amazed at the number of vegans people post in these threads seem to know.
I'm vegetarian, and other than my husband and maybe 3 or 4 people at work, I know no vegetarians, and not a single vegan.

How do people meet all these vegans?

s7ryf3925pivug

Mtx wrote: »

Would it be fair to be say guys that are vegan, tend to be less masculine?

https://www.mensjournal.com/sports/nate-diaz-and-other-vegan-ufc-fighters-w199323

It would be incorrect to say it. Lots more examples if you look.

Veganism involves rigorous self discipline, since there is a challenge getting a properly nutritious diet. Eating meat is self indulgent in comparison. I view veganism as the more masculine option.

Was vegetarian for seven years or so. Started eating birds and fish again last year to support my wife who had medical reasons to need to. Ideologically agreed with veganism but my conscience was satisfied with vegetarianism for myself.

Tidyboii

Shenshen wrote: »

I'm always amazed at the number of vegans people post in these threads seem to know.
I'm vegetarian, and other than my husband and maybe 3 or 4 people at work, I know no vegetarians, and not a single vegan.

How do people meet all these vegans?

They introduce themselves as vegan.... *coat grab time*

Bambi985

The vegan converts in my office are burly lads for the most part, and the whole cultish takeover started when the burliest meat-eater of them all took up a challenge from his vegan wife who told him he'd never survive a week meat-free. A few weeks later he was full-on hugging trees and vegan preaching and the rest of the team got sucked in fairly lively too.

I think it's a bromance that has gone a step too far and they'll eventually succumb to temptation when the waft of my juicy steaks and chicken fillets keeps passing their way at lunch time.

Shenshen

Tidyboii wrote: »

They introduce themselves as vegan.... *coat grab time*

I heard that, too, but do they only ever introduce themselves to people who have a problem with what other people eat? Is that some sort of strange vegan "gaydar" they have that will allow them to identify the people who, after meeting them, will jump straight onto the next social platform they can find to complain about preachy feminised vegans?

quickbeam

ednwireland wrote: »

Was in Poland this summer was surprised at how many vegan restaurants and cafes there it was brilliant Ireland could learn a thing or two. (Declared interest here I'm vegetarian)

I was in Poland about 10 years ago and I couldn't even get anything vegetarian, never mind vegan. Even when they delivered bread and "butter" it turned out it was lard they expected us to put on our bread.

I'm glad to see they've improved their catering since then at least.

For my declared interest: I'm not vegan. I'm not even technically vegetarian. But I eat vegetarian about 98% of the time (I eat the fish a couple of times a year), and vegan about 20% of the time.

Guy:Incognito

An tUasal C wrote: »

Vegans are not normal-humans? :rolleyes:

Now you're getting it, well done .

koumi

Have a family member who was primarily vegan.
Tbf, I never ate much meat and was happy to entertain vegan diet and you can eat quite a lot of good food so I'd have no complaints about the lifestyle in general. It's just I when it became gluten and dairy free is where it started to feel like an extremist ideology and then I started watching these videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oht9AEq1798

(I eat a lot of fruit and vegetables and would only have meat maybe once a week)

ednwireland

quickbeam wrote: »

I was in Poland about 10 years ago and I couldn't even get anything vegetarian, never mind vegan. Even when they delivered bread and "butter" it turned out it was lard they expected us to put on our bread.

I'm glad to see they've improved their catering since then at least.

For my declared interest: I'm not vegan. I'm not even technically vegetarian. But I eat vegetarian about 98% of the time (I eat the fish a couple of times a year), and vegan about 20% of the time.

my families polish so I'm at an advantage but honestly if you want a vegan break (and can stand the crowds of tourists) go to Krakow . I prefer gdansk bit more low key but slightly harder work.

Oh yes they there is still loads of meat and people selling smalec (lard) on bread.

It's the pseudo-vegans that irk me, as I'm sure they irk real vegans.

I had lunch with a frenemy who was telling me she'd gone gluten-free and didn't eat wheat and was now vegan. We were having soup with big slices of 'spelt bread' (spelt being an ingredient, a small proportion of the mainly wheat bread), and she had it spread with butter. Proper butter.

Anyway, she told me she was completely and totally vegan, except she ate fish. And sometimes chicken on Sundays. Then she poured the milk into her coffee and had an apple pie with cream, and told me all about how she had twelve allergies diagnosed in a half hour by someone with a table set up in a branch of Holland and Barrett. Ninety minutes of my life I can never have back.

As for real vegans and vegetarians, I've no problem with any of it and have been trying to have a few meat free days a week myself, possibly working up to making the real commitment.

wexie

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Reducing your meat content does not make you a vegan, or even plastic vegan (vegetarians), it makes you an eatinglessmeatatarian.

Flexitarian apparently, someone who sometimes doesn't eat meat :rolleyes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-vegetarianism

Jim Ellis

I know a lot of vegans, and they all just get on with life and don't interfere with non-vegans lives or diets.
Could you give an actual real-life example of this happening?
I don't know where all these annoying vegans are, it's a misconceived stereotype brought up when someone wants to have a rant against a certain group or section of society for no apparent reason. To feel better about themselves or something. I don't know.
Live and let live. Don't bother vegans and they won't bother you. Get a hobby. Read a book. Go for a walk. Whatever floats your boat.

The_Valeyard

wexie wrote: »

Flexitarian apparently, someone who sometimes doesn't eat meat :rolleyes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-vegetarianism

So, emmmmm does everyone have a label these days?

The_Valeyard

The_Valeyard wrote: »

So, emmmmm does everyone have a label these days?

You're such a questiontarion.

wexie

Jim Ellis wrote: »

Live and let live.

Deleted User wrote: »

don't be a dick

Pretty much my whole philosophy in two easy quotes.
Not bad for a friday evening

Bambi985

Jim Ellis wrote: »

I know a lot of vegans, and they all just get on with life and don't interfere with non-vegans lives or diets.
Could you give an actual real-life example of this happening?
I don't know where all these annoying vegans are, it's a misconceived stereotype brought up when someone wants to have a rant against a certain group or section of society for no apparent reason. To feel better about themselves or something. I don't know.
Live and let live. Don't bother vegans and they won't bother you. Get a hobby. Read a book. Go for a walk. Whatever floats your boat.

That’s great. Fair play to ya. I know a lot of annoying ones, as outlined in the OP. So there ya are.

CeilingFly

OH is vegan and has been for almost 40 years. If she ate meat, she'd get physically sick.

She hates hardliners and despises peta.

She saw what happened in a small rural abattoir when she was a kid and never ate meat since and went vegan when she was 20. (long long long time ago )

But I eat meat, the dogs eat meat, she'll cook meat (ok. She'll put a chicken in the oven), and won't even try to change me (love rare steak)

So Veganism is like any minority group - the vast majority are normal and you wouldn't know they are part of that group. But you always have the vocal, annoying, minority who think they must "show off". And the others just hate them.

Jim Ellis

Bambi985 wrote: »

That’s great. Fair play to ya. I know a lot of annoying ones, as outlined in the OP. So there ya are.

The only annoying "offence" committed by vegans I can see from your OP is them inviting you to a vegan cocktail party.
God forbid you could just say "no thanks" and get on with life, rather than getting annoyed by them and airing your grievance on the internet.
How are the other vegans diet choice impacting your life in any way ?

wexie

CeilingFly wrote: »

the vast majority are normal and you wouldn't know they are part of that group. But you always have the vocal, annoying, minority who think they must "show off". And the others just hate them.

Pretty much the long and short of it.

My OH is vegetarian but will happily cook me and the kids meat (not steak she doesn't like the blood) but I don't think she's ever tried to convince me or anyone else*. It's just a personal choice.

But you're right, you do get the odd militant vegetarian/vegan. First thing I tend to do is look at their shoes....

*She eats eggs from our rescue hens, but we can't have a rooster. She reckons if there's no rooster then it's just chickens period, if there's a chance the eggs might be fertilized then it could be a potential baby chicken