New York Giants Thread

wawaman · 03-01-2016 9:15pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

Well thank god that's over.. Many heads on here head to Twickenham for the Rams game next year??

I'd absolutely love to. Never seen the Giants in the flesh, but have seen Tim Tebow!! Go figure!! But at that stage I will have a 5yo and a 3 month old so I will have to earn mega brownie points between now and then!!!!

KrustyUCC · 03-01-2016 9:17pm

I really hope I get tickets for Twickenham

Only positive about losing to them again

Think we have#9 pick at the moment

Could be #8 if Tampa can beat Carolina

Knex* · 03-01-2016 9:23pm

Would love to go, for sure.

krustydoyle · 03-01-2016 9:27pm

I'm definitely gonna go..
It's been a dream for so long so I'll definitely be there

KrustyUCC · 03-01-2016 9:28pm

If we all get tickets it would be nice to head for a few beers

Knex* · 03-01-2016 10:03pm

I think a conversation needs to be held with regards to Spags' job, even if Coughlin ends up staying, tbh.

KrustyUCC · 03-01-2016 10:11pm

I can't see TC staying

JR is as big a problem but I can see Mara & Co blowing everything up

Knex* · 03-01-2016 11:16pm

I wouldn't be at all surprised if he stays another year, tbh.

I don't see Reese being fired, not after his last two drafts.

Certainly an interesting offseason ahead, anyway.

KrustyUCC · 03-01-2016 11:25pm

Mara has to have some change after threatening it last year

glued · 03-01-2016 11:26pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

I can't see TC staying

JR is as big a problem but I can see Mara & Co blowing everything up

I think it would be a massive mistake to keep Reese. He's proven himself to be a poor GM. We're not a player or two away. We're a good few players off being relevant and that's down to JR. This is the fourth worst defence in NFL history. Let that sink in. Unquestionably Spags should go too.

KrustyUCC · 03-01-2016 11:29pm

I'm on the fire Reese bandwagon but Mara will be loyal to him I think

Spats will go if TC is gone or not

Knex* · 03-01-2016 11:29pm

Two of which were coached by Spags.

One of the best defensive ends in the year blew his hand off in the offseason, plus a ridiculous amount of injuries haven't helped.

I'm neither for nor against Reese, but I definitely don't think you can call him a poor GM.

Knex* · 04-01-2016 9:59am

Just realised Robert Ayers finished the season with 9.5 sacks in 12 games.

Some going. Hope we bring him back again next year. If JPP can even get his hand half way normal, and we add in Hank the Tank and Odighizuwa, we have a solid base to build upon with FA and the Draft.

wawaman · 04-01-2016 11:23am

Next seasons home and away's:

NEW YORK GIANTS
Home: Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Baltimore Ravens, Cincinnati Bengals, New Orleans Saints
Away: Philadelphia Eagles, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Redskins, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings, Cleveland Browns, Pittsburgh Steelers, St. Louis Rams (Oct. 23 in London)

Knex* · 04-01-2016 11:47am

Holy crap.

Bears, Lions, Ravens, Bengals, Saints, Vikings, Packers, Steelers, and Rams.

Next year won't be much prettier, I fear.

KrustyUCC · 04-01-2016 7:26pm

Tom Coughlin gone according to reports

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-as-head-coach

HigginsJ · 04-01-2016 7:30pm

Just saw it there, no surprise. Wish him the best

Apparently he is open to coaching on if the oppurtunity arises. He should go to the Browns, would be great appointment to get them in shape.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 04-01-2016 7:34pm

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Tom Coughlin gone according to reports

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-as-head-coach

I do feel for Coughlin. He's done a great job overall. Those two SB wins will be a major part of his legacy.

But four years in a row not making the playoffs (in a division that didn't have a standout team), three losing seasons in a row, and this year had some really bad calls from the sideline (really should have beaten the Pats); I guess it had to happen.

Will always hate him for 2007 and 2011, but will always respect him for 2007 and 2011

The NFL has been a better place because of him.

krustydoyle · 04-01-2016 7:37pm

Thanks for everything coach.. You've given us fans some amazing days..

Kylo Ren · 04-01-2016 8:01pm

The only Giants coach I've known. It was a very frustrating season, and I remember near the end feeling he should be let go.

Now that it has happened, I'm pretty bummed out. The end of an era. Not just for the team, but for the game too.

krustydoyle · 04-01-2016 8:07pm

Right lads... Been realistic..

Who do we want to take over??

wawaman · 04-01-2016 8:26pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

Right lads... Been realistic..

Who do we want to take over??

McAdoo has been getting a lot of talk today!!

krustydoyle · 04-01-2016 8:34pm

I've seen reports that Sean Peyton and Chip Kelly are both interested

Knex* · 04-01-2016 8:38pm

Hard pushed to find Eli so emotional.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=14501916

He definitely has not failed these players. We failed him

Knex* · 04-01-2016 8:40pm

McAdoo needs to stay.

It'll either be him, or a defensive minded HC who leaves McAdoo still reside over offense, without each of them stepping on toes.

Last defesive minded HC we had was Parcells, nearly!

HigginsJ · 04-01-2016 9:11pm

I reckon it will be either Spags or McAdoo. I fancy it will be Spags with McAdoo staying as OC.

In terms of the rumours, Chip Kelly ain't happening and wouldn't want him. Sean Payton sounds interested & is an intriguing option but really would only want him if available, not giving a Ðraft pick for him.

Doubt we will go to the college scene.

In terms of established coaches then either Jon Gruden or Bill Cowher would be great. Ideal world I'd hire coach Cowher.

Knex* · 04-01-2016 9:17pm

I'd want Spags fired, sooner than hand him the HC job, being honest.

There's something so affable about Gruden, and so engaging, that I think I would like. Cowher was linked plenty of times before, so it'll be interesting if his name gets thrown in again.

HigginsJ · 04-01-2016 9:28pm

Knex. wrote: »

I'd want Spags fired, sooner than hand him the HC job, being honest.

There's something so affable about Gruden, and so engaging, that I think I would like. Cowher was linked plenty of times before, so it'll be interesting if his name gets thrown in again.

I'd rather see Spags gone as well but he is well respected by the front office.

Knex* · 04-01-2016 9:40pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

I'd rather see Spags gone as well but he is well respected by the front office.

True, but its hard to see an upgrade on him over TC in the short term, and he's definitely not a long term option, so it would be an annoying appointment in my eyes.

I do trust Mara and Tisch, so hopefully it'll work out alright. Its never going to be easy replacing a Hall of Fame coach, really. Took the franchise long enough after the last one!

HigginsJ · 04-01-2016 9:43pm

Knex. wrote: »

True, but its hard to see an upgrade on him over TC in the short term, and he's definitely not a long term option, so it would be an annoying appointment in my eyes.

I do trust Mara and Tisch, so hopefully it'll work out alright. Its never going to be easy replacing a Hall of Fame coach, really. Took the franchise long enough after the last one!

Will be my 1st season following the Giants where TC is not in charge so will be strange & exciting.

Knex* · 04-01-2016 9:52pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Will be my 1st season following the Giants where TC is not in charge so will be strange & exciting.

Aye, same. I literally started following them as they were supreme underdogs in 07, when I first started watching NFL, and all the hype was on the Pats.

Didn't think that 9 years later I'd be so obsessed about it all, or feeling so nostalgic at seeing that red, windburned face retire.

All the reports are pointing towards Reese being safe. Press conference tomorrow at 10.30 am, EST time.

HigginsJ · 04-01-2016 10:04pm

Knex. wrote: »

Aye, same. I literally started following them as they were supreme underdogs in 07, when I first started watching NFL, and all the hype was on the Pats.

Didn't think that 9 years later I'd be so obsessed about it all, or feeling so nostalgic at seeing that red, windburned face retire.

All the reports are pointing towards Reese being safe. Press conference tomorrow at 10.30 am, EST time.

Exact same time I started to follow them, 9 years of frustration & great memories. His face after Dodges punt allowed Jackson a walk off TD is one you'd never forget.

glued · 04-01-2016 10:25pm

It's really interesting that Reese is staying. Mara and Tisch are too prudent to have a complete overhaul. I doubt McAdoo or Spags will really be in contention for the job. McAdoo will probably get an interview but we really need a new set of eyes over the set up. I doubt Spags will survive either. He can't stand over that defence this year. I think McAdoo will be forced upon the next HC. Eli likes him too much and probably wouldn't be happy learning a new offence again.

Knex* · 04-01-2016 11:00pm

Justin Tuck

https://www.facebook.com/47892511938/photos/a.167358611938.122211.47892511938/10153435013546939/?type=3&theater

As I sit back and reflect on Coach Tom Coughlin, I remember all the one on ones in your office talking football, game plan, etc.
I think back to when I was named captain and I used to try and beat you to the facility. I would get there at 6, you where there. I got there at 530 and you were there. 5 am... I knew I would beat you then.. NOPE YOU WERE THERE.

I remember feeling the hood of your car and it was cold. Come to find out there were nights you slept in the office.

No one worked harder, no one demanded more and I LOVE YOU for it.

I chose this picture for one reason and one reason only. Everyone knows you for your dedication to your team and how intense you are on the football field. But I will remember you for helping me become a man and challenging all of us to be better husbands and fathers and men.

You did it the right way Coach. And you might be retiring from coaching but I'm sure this isn't a goodbye. That's not in your nature. #halloffame #5minutesearly #areyoush*ttingme

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glued · 04-01-2016 11:12pm

Wow that's a great dictum from Justin Tuck.

Knex* · 05-01-2016 2:36pm

Press conference in an hour, I believe.

Paul Dottino was on NFL network saying that he believes the owners will definitely want to bring someone in who wants to run the West Coast offense, and not deviate much from what McAdoo was doing, although he didn't imply that it meant McAdoo would remain OC.

He did follow that up by saying he didn't believe a coach/GM type head coach would be brought in, specifically naming Cowher, as he believes the owners are confident in Reese.

This has me thinking that Jon Gruden could be a fit, but I do believe that we are better off bringing in a defensive minded coach, and let McAdoo run that offense of his.

HigginsJ · 05-01-2016 2:54pm

Apparently they will be interviewing Spags for the role this week.

Knex* · 05-01-2016 3:01pm

HigginsJ wrote: »

Apparently they will be interviewing Spags for the role this week.

That's a depressing thought.

HigginsJ · 05-01-2016 3:10pm

NJ.com also reporting that McAdoo to get an interview

krustydoyle · 05-01-2016 3:18pm

Surely we can attract more than Spags and McAdoo..

I'm not knocking them but I expected more "names" to be making it known they'd be interested

Knex* · 05-01-2016 3:24pm

I want McAdoo to stay, but you look around the league, and it is a bit too early to be putting someone with 2 years OC experience in as a HC, really. It took Mike McCarthy five years as an offensive coach, and many more years prior to that, before he got the Packer gig, for example.

Gruden, however, only had two years as Eagles OC, before he got the Raiders job, and he had a fairly damn solid HC career.

I'm pretty conflicted with regards to how I think we can keep McAdoo, but also bring in the right guy who won't throw everything out of sync. In that regards, it does seem that you either have to go defense, or just give McAdoo the reigns.

krustydoyle · 05-01-2016 5:52pm

Bears OC Adam Gase is been offered an interview as well

glued · 05-01-2016 5:54pm

I wouldn't restrict searching for a new head coach based on what McAdoo has done so far. We have the most one dimensional offense in the league and all of a sudden people want this guy to be the head coach?

The only reason why I'd keep McAdoo is because of his relationship with Eli but if he can't expand the offense next season then he should be fired. It's also a laughable to, essentially, fire Coughlin but keep a washed up DC.

I'm not having a go at McAdoo either I just still think he has a lot to prove before he gets a HC gig. It's obvious to see why the offense is so limited but I definitely think he needs to expand this offense to even be in consideration for a HC gig.

KrustyUCC · 05-01-2016 7:49pm

Mara and Reeses Pressers were farcical

Very defensive and non logical

Worrying times ahead I fear

glued · 06-01-2016 12:15am

HigginsJ · 06-01-2016 10:47am

glued wrote: »

Yea Eli was really upset by the whole thing. Shows real level of affection towards TC.

wawaman · 06-01-2016 10:53am

HigginsJ wrote: »

Yea Eli was really upset by the whole thing. Shows real level of affection towards TC.

For some reason i always pictured Eli as someone who let things roll off his back, whether good or bad. So it was surprising to see him like that. Off all the ex players that have said stuff about TC, the only one with a negative comment was Tiki Barber !!

boccy23 · 06-01-2016 11:37am

HigginsJ wrote: »

Will be my 1st season following the Giants where TC is not in charge so will be strange & exciting.

Have been at it a bit longer. Parcells was there when I started following the Giants - 1985.
So been through two great ones - Parcells and TC. And the other meh ones - Handley, Reeves & Fassell.
12 years for TC was a fair stint. Think that we do need a change though.
The talks of an internal hire scare me. McAdoo and Spags should not get the job. I'm happy with the idea of Payton - would love John Fox. Trade picks to the Bears and nab him.
There was a lot of talk over the years of Bill Cowher. Wonder whether this talk will be resurrected.

glued · 06-01-2016 11:57am

If we're going for an unproven head coach I'd like to see someone like Adam Gase but if we're going for experience I'd definitely be in the Payton camp.

krustydoyle · 06-01-2016 1:24pm

Doug Marrone is getting an interview now according to Ian Rappaport on Twitter

(dear god no)

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