Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 07-04-2014 5:18pm

I did an update channel list scan today on my panasonic idtv and this removed the old rte one sd channel but if I press the number 11 on my tv remote i can still view it. It has a black screen.

The Cush · 07-04-2014 5:19pm

Elmo wrote: »

Any notable improvements on SD channels since the change?

Haven't noticed any improvement.

satelliteman20 · 07-04-2014 6:31pm

it seems a waste not to change the resolution on the sd channels to 704 576 or 720 576 since there is enough space i suppose they dont want to make them look too good.

07-04-2014 6:52pm

11 is now hidden on my Samsung TV; have to manually enter the channel number.

Sam Russell · 07-04-2014 8:55pm

satelliteman20 wrote: »

it seems a waste not to change the resolution on the sd channels to 704 576 or 720 576 since there is enough space i suppose they dont want to make them look too good.

The new tarrifs charge for used bit-rate so it would cost more for a station to be 704 rather than the current poor resoltion. Not much more, but more.

HD is about twice (plus a bit) of SD. Better to go HD, 704 would help.

stereomatic · 09-04-2014 7:13pm

I noticed earlier this morning that at about 6 am that RTE1 +1 was on air and was wondering if it was on all night and when it went off air.

sgthighway · 09-04-2014 7:48pm

This is a large thread. I have searched but not found the answer.

Has anybody successfully rescanned Ariva 200 Combo?
I am based in Galway and pointing to Maghera.
I can only find 8 channels
1. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound
2. RTÉ Two
3. TV3
4. TG4
5. RTÉ News Now
6. 3e
7. 2RN Test Channel
8. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound

Info for 1. is DVB-T, 690000/8M, PID: 1101/1201/81
I don't appear to have any hidden channels - I think
I am on the latest firmware (2.18B8) and have done a Factory Reset.

P.S. - If somebody has a Channel List please PM me. Save me time sorting out those Sat Channels. Thanks.

STB · 09-04-2014 9:14pm

sgthighway wrote: »

This is a large thread. I have searched but not found the answer.

Has anybody successfully rescanned Ariva 200 Combo?
I am based in Galway and pointing to Maghera.
I can only find 8 channels
1. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound
2. RTÉ Two
3. TV3
4. TG4
5. RTÉ News Now
6. 3e
7. 2RN Test Channel
8. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound

Info for 1. is DVB-T, 690000/8M, PID: 1101/1201/81
I don't appear to have any hidden channels - I think
I am on the latest firmware (2.18B8) and have done a Factory Reset.

P.S. - If somebody has a Channel List please PM me. Save me time sorting out those Sat Channels. Thanks.

RTE1 and RTE1+1 are on the other mux frequency.

stereomatic · 09-04-2014 9:29pm

sgthighway wrote: »

This is a large thread. I have searched but not found the answer.

Has anybody successfully rescanned Ariva 200 Combo?
I am based in Galway and pointing to Maghera.
I can only find 8 channels
1. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound
2. RTÉ Two
3. TV3
4. TG4
5. RTÉ News Now
6. 3e
7. 2RN Test Channel
8. Empty - Black Screen, No Label/Title & No Sound

Info for 1. is DVB-T, 690000/8M, PID: 1101/1201/81
I don't appear to have any hidden channels - I think
I am on the latest firmware (2.18B8) and have done a Factory Reset.

P.S. - If somebody has a Channel List please PM me. Save me time sorting out those Sat Channels. Thanks.

On page 1 of this thread #3 there is a full list by The Cush

The Cush · 09-04-2014 9:39pm

sgthighway wrote: »

P.S. - If somebody has a Channel List please PM me. Save me time sorting out those Sat Channels. Thanks.

Current Saorview multiplex line-up, I don't have a list of the sat channels.

Channel line-up by LCN on a Saorview TV setup with Ireland as the country/region on first install

LCN

|

Channel

||

Mux

|
01|RTÉ One|HD|2|
02|RTÉ Two|HD|1|
03|TV3|SD|1|
04|TG4|SD|1|
05|3e|SD|1|
06|RTÉ News Now|SD|1|
07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|2|
08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|2|
09-10|(not used)|||
11*|-|SD|1|previously RTÉ1 SD simulcast
12*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|
13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|TG4 subtitles and teletext tested previously
15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2| RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
16|(not used)|||
17*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|1|previously RTÉ Junior simulcast
18*|-|SD|1|previously RTÉ1 +1 simulcast
200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|1|
201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|1|
202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|1|
203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|1|
204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|1|
205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|1|
206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio|1|
207*|-||1|previously RTÉ Choice
208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|1|
209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio|1|
210|(not used)||
211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|no audio
213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|no audio
249|SSU||1|
250|SSU||2|

Multiplex 1

LCN

|

Channel

||
11*|-|SD|previously RTÉ1 SD simulcast
02|RTÉ Two|HD|
03|TV3|SD|
04|TG4|SD|
05|3e|SD|
06|RTÉ News Now|SD|
17*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|previously RTÉ Junior simulcast
18*|-|SD|previously RTÉ1 +1 simulcast
200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|
201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|
202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|
203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|
204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|
205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|
206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio
207*||previously RTÉ Choice
208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|
209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio

Multiplex 2

LCN

|

Channel

||
01|RTÉ One|HD|
12*| (no channel name/testcard) |HD|
13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|TG4 subtitles and teletext previously
15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
16|(not used)||
07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|
08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|
211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|no audio
213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|no audio

* Hidden on Saorview receivers but can be selected by entering the channel no. via the remote control
** RTÉ Junior 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Timesharing

sgthighway · 09-04-2014 9:44pm

STB wrote: »

RTE1 and RTE1+1 are on the other mux frequency.

Thank You!

In this case is Mux Freq the Channel No I am searching?

CH48 is getting excellent Intensity of 76% and Quality of 87%
CH55 is getting Intensity of 75% and Quality of 58%
Not a dicky bird on CH55 :-

Is it worth adjusting the aerial to get that Quality Up?

The Cush · 09-04-2014 10:01pm

sgthighway wrote: »

In this case is Mux Freq the Channel No I am searching?

CH48 is getting excellent Intensity of 76% and Quality of 87%
CH55 is getting Intensity of 75% and Quality of 58%
Not a dicky bird on CH55 :-

Is it worth adjusting the aerial to get that Quality Up?

Signal quality is a bit low for Mux2, with the aerial correctly setup for Maghera the signal strength and quality should be the same for both muxes.

Where is your aerial located, outdoor/indoor?

sgthighway · 09-04-2014 10:04pm

The Cush wrote: »

Signal quality is a bit low for Mux2, with the aerial correctly setup for Maghera the signal strength and quality should be the same for both muxes.

Where is your aerial located, outdoor/indoor?

Located outdoor.
One like this: http://www.tvtrade.ie/images/detailed/2/saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-black.jpg
Nothing blocking it as the crow flies but it is under the soffit of the house.

The Cush · 09-04-2014 10:14pm

sgthighway wrote: »

Located outdoor.
One like this: http://www.tvtrade.ie/images/detailed/2/saorview-uhf-tv-aerial-black.jpg
Nothing blocking it as the crow flies but it is under the soffit of the house.

Link not working but I assume it's this standard contract aerial - http://www.tvtrade.ie/black-wide-band-uhf-aerial.html

The aerial could be a little low under the soffit but you could try adjusting it yourself, small movements, checking the meter as you go until both muxes display similar strength and quality readings. Your target is as close to 100% signal quality as possible.

sudzs · 10-04-2014 9:05pm

The Cush wrote: »

I assume again the aerial is connected to both the Freeview box and TV? Do you use the TV for both Saorview and Freeview? How is the aerial split to TV and STB?

How many aerials are on the roof for both Saorview and Freeview reception?

Feeding 9 apartments there must be some form of distribution amplifier in the setup. You may have get someone in to check the aerial and the signal at each TV point.

Just to let ye know we solved the problem of RTE1 being pixelated since retuning to the HD version. Turned out to be simple in the end. The coax cable had to be replaced. :rolleyes: It was too long and the plugs were not great quality so we got a shorter cable and proper good quality plugs and now we have RTE1 coming in loud and clear!

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 24-04-2014 5:46pm

Test channel 13 is now showing epg info for what looks like RTE ONE+1. This channel is not on the guide as it is still hidden. I wonder are RTE extending the hours of RTE ONE+1.

hesus2003 · 30-04-2014 10:15pm

neighbours house has saorview and last night only rte1, rte junior, and rte news are working all channels were there yest tried to rescan channels and still only these channels came back
aqnyone any ideas on what i could try?

The Cush · 30-04-2014 10:26pm

hesus2003 wrote: »

neighbours house has saorview and last night only rte1, rte junior, and rte news are working all channels were there yest tried to rescan channels and still only these channels came back
aqnyone any ideas on what i could try?

Most likely insufficient signal for Mux 1 that carries the other channels. Could be an aerial or cable problem.

What type of aerial are they using?
First and simplest would be to check all connectios from aerial to TV.

mystic86 · 18-05-2014 11:43pm

I have a samsung TV and I have done a re-scan several times but cannot get RTE 1!!

Can anybody help?

greasepalm · 19-05-2014 12:06am

saorview tuner and are you using what type of aerial?

mystic86 · 19-05-2014 12:12am

greasepalm wrote: »

saorview tuner and are you using what type of aerial?

yeah, /i have all the other channels - its built into the tv.

Using a set top aerial.

greasepalm · 19-05-2014 12:17am

i use one of these.how many channels found on scan,mine has 15tv and 40 radio.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LASWGzdxQO8

The Cush · 19-05-2014 1:08am

mystic86 wrote: »

yeah, /i have all the other channels - its built into the tv.

Using a set top aerial.

I assume RTÉ1+1 on position 8 is also missing as they're carried on the same frequency/multiplex?

Problem most likely the set-top aerial, not recommended for Saorview reception as they can be prone to local factors that can result in signal interference/loss.

eddieoregan · 24-05-2014 5:53pm

What's up with the sound on 3e?

Mallagio · 24-05-2014 8:52pm

Haven't used Saorview in quite some time here in Lucan, they've definitely boosted the signal.

I got a lot of breakup before & thankfully that has been sorted.

spawinte · 25-05-2014 7:20pm

Used to get RTE1 fine. Did the rescan as instructed and had it for a while on channel 11. Now I have no RTE1.

A retune detects something for channels 1 and 8. The TV says they are RTE1 and RTE1 +1 and I can get listing data but it's just a black screen that occasionally flashes up crazy jumbled up images that are mostly pink or green.

This is in Dundalk. I'm using the built in tuner on a 2010 model year TV.

25-05-2014 7:40pm

spawinte wrote: »

Used to get RTE1 fine. Did the rescan as instructed and had it for a while on channel 11. Now I have no RTE1.

A retune detects something for channels 1 and 8. The TV says they are RTE1 and RTE1 +1 and I can get listing data but it's just a black screen that occasionally flashes up crazy jumbled up images that are mostly pink or green.

This is in Dundalk. I'm using the built in tuner on a 2010 model year TV.

That's a textbook example of a weak signal. Your aerial isn't picking up mux 2 properly. Check that the box is tuned to the correct frequency for your area. If that's already correct then check the aerial and connections.

sibersha · 28-05-2014 2:11pm

spawinte wrote: »

Used to get RTE1 fine. Did the rescan as instructed and had it for a while on channel 11. Now I have no RTE1.

A retune detects something for channels 1 and 8. The TV says they are RTE1 and RTE1 +1 and I can get listing data but it's just a black screen that occasionally flashes up crazy jumbled up images that are mostly pink or green.

This is in Dundalk. I'm using the built in tuner on a 2010 model year TV.

Same for me in Dundalk for new Samsung TV, however I can receive RTE 1 on my old Samsung TV upstairs in house. Confused.

The Cush · 28-05-2014 5:23pm

sibersha wrote: »

Same for me in Dundalk for new Samsung TV, however I can receive RTE 1 on my old Samsung TV upstairs in house. Confused.

I assume if you moved the new Samsung TV upstairs all would be OK, most likely the signal is weaker at the downstairs TV point.

Sam Russell · 29-05-2014 9:45am

I got a new Samsung and find the in-built Saorview tuner to be very sensitive. I am using a bit of bent wire (from a coathanger) as an aerial and have had no problems with the signal but previously the same bit of wire did not perform that well with the other TV.

Hotblack Desiato · 29-05-2014 9:35pm

Maybe try a gold plated coathanger next time Sam :pac:

Sam Russell · 29-05-2014 10:12pm

ninja900 wrote: »

Maybe try a gold plated coathanger next time Sam :pac:

It works perfectly with the new Samsung. No gold needed (except to pay for the TV).

StreetLight · 30-05-2014 8:56pm

The test pattern on LCN 11 is now showing up on my Samsung TVs as unhidden.

The Cush · 30-05-2014 9:03pm

StreetLight wrote: »

The test pattern on LCN 11 is now showing up on my Samsung TVs as unhidden.

Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?

Elmo · 31-05-2014 12:29pm

The Cush wrote: »

Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?

Early 2015 can't wait!

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 31-05-2014 2:18pm

I wonder have UTVI signed a carraige deal with 2rn and if so would it be posted up on their website?

Elmo · 31-05-2014 3:00pm

natashaob6 wrote: »

I wonder have UTVI signed a carraige deal with 2rn and if so would it be posted up on their website?

I'd say that UTV will announce all carriage agreements together.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 31-05-2014 6:39pm

StreetLight wrote: »

The test pattern on LCN 11 is now showing up on my Samsung TVs as unhidden.

I did a rescan on my panasonic hdtv today and test channel 11 is still hidden. It can only be accessed by pressing the number keys on my remote controll.

StreetLight · 31-05-2014 9:28pm

Channel 11 is hidden for me again now. I can't imagine there would be anyone conducting tests at 2RN on a bank holiday weekend, so maybe it was a technical bug.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 31-05-2014 9:33pm

StreetLight wrote: »

Channel 11 is hidden for me again now. I can't imagine there would be anyone conducting tests at 2RN on a bank holiday weekend, so maybe it was a technical bug.

I was thinking it must still be a bit early for tests regarding UTVI.

galtee boy · 31-05-2014 9:38pm

The Cush wrote: »

Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?

Surely we won't see UTVi tests until possibly Oct/Nov at the earliest ?

31-05-2014 9:50pm

galtee boy wrote: »

Surely we won't see UTVi tests until possibly Oct/Nov at the earliest ?

I remember that TnaG started testing from Three Rock fairly early in 1996, probably around April or so. TV3 on the other hand only started testing 10 days before launch. I'd say that if we had a real UTVI test then you'd see a test transmission other than the 2RN card.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48 · 31-05-2014 10:01pm

Karsini wrote: »

I remember that TnaG started testing from Three Rock fairly early in 1996, probably around April or so. TV3 on the other hand only started testing 10 days before launch. I'd say that if we had a real UTVI test then you'd see a test transmission other than the 2RN card.

UTVI seem to be putting everything together fairly quickly so I wouln'd be surprised to see some tests beginning in the next two months or so. Especially if tbe carraige deal is done and dusted. It will give the techy guys in 2rn something to look forward too.

The Cush · 31-05-2014 10:09pm

Elmo wrote: »

Early 2015 can't wait!

January 1, 2015 to be precise.

Elmo · 01-06-2014 2:39pm

The Cush wrote: »

January 1, 2015 to be precise.

The Cush two things about Irish Broadcasting

1. There has to be an indefinite amount of testing done
2. You don't use specific dates like 1/1/15, nor do you use first quarters.
3. You use vague seasons of the year that everyone in Ireland has a different view on.

In this case

UTV will begin next winter.

For some this might mean the start of winter e.g. November or December
Other it might mean the end of winter e.g. Feburary or March.

So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15 :pac:

Lucious Sweet · 01-06-2014 4:42pm

Elmo wrote: »

UTV will begin next winter.

For some this might mean the start of winter e.g. November or December
Other it might mean the end of winter e.g. Feburary or March.

So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15 :pac:

Will UTV be broadcast in HD?

The Cush · 01-06-2014 5:11pm

Elmo wrote: »

So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15

From the UTVI website

30 May 2014

UTV Ireland will host a briefing session for independent production companies on Thursday 19 June, 2014 in Dublin to discuss the commissioning process for the new channel which goes on air on January 1, 2015.

The Cush · 01-06-2014 5:12pm

Lucious Sweet wrote: »

Will UTV be broadcast in HD?

Unknown at this time.

Elmo · 01-06-2014 11:43pm

The Cush wrote: »

From the UTVI website

I am joking!

Souriau · 02-06-2014 12:28am

StreetLight wrote: »

The test pattern on LCN 11 is now showing up on my Samsung TVs as unhidden.

The Cush wrote: »

Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?

Is LCN 11 not on Mux 1?
Would it be better for UTVI to be on Mux 2 as there is more spare capacity?

Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

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