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Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

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  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ marclt


    Changes have already happened/happening from Mt L. A retune shows RTE one and RTEjr/one+1 is in the second multiplex


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Saorview Multiplexes this morning

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|no channel name (RTÉ 1 simulcast)|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    17|no channel name (RTÉjr simulcast)|SD
    18|no channel name (RTÉ1 +1 simulcast)|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD
    12|(no channel name***)|HD
    13|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name***)|HD
    15|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio

    ***No HD testcards on LCNs 12 and 14 this morning
    * RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Not timesharing on Mux2, static on-air caption on RTÉ1 +1 "This channel is currently off air"


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭ channelsurfer2


    The Cush wrote: »
    Saorview Multiplexes this morning

    Multiplex 1

    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|no channel name (RTÉ 1 simulcast)|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    17|no channel name (RTÉjr simulcast)|SD
    18|no channel name (RTÉ1 +1 simulcast)|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2

    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD
    12|(no channel name***)|HD
    13|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name***)|HD
    15|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio
    * RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx
    ***No HD testcards on LCNs 12 and 14 this morning

    is it actually broadcasting in HD rteone? or is the signal just saying HD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭ irishfreeview


    is it actually broadcasting in HD rteone? or is the signal just saying HD?

    Its either upscaled or HD, vast improvement on the SD channel which is still broadcasting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    is it actually broadcasting in HD rteone? or is the signal just saying HD?

    Upscaled HD 1440x1080i, same as RTÉ2.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭ channelsurfer2


    and more importantly is the DOG back? lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 formerly scottish paddy


    vast improvement on the SD channel which is still broadcasting.
    Yes indeed!! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    Where are we living? On the day of the re-tune they announce the re-tune?

    In relation to the few channels available there are a number of Irish services that could have launched on Soarview had they been given some support and appeared on other platforms. IMO at least 15 new services. Even for a small country Soarview is bad IMO.

    In relation to my figures I quickly said to myself that RTÉ TV had 6 out 9 SD spaces, TV3 had 2 and TG4 had 1 and I divided by 9 to give me the figures I got for the example. Either way any spare capacity is paid for by the broadcasters and 2RN are paid in full for Mux 1 and 2, which was the real point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    and more importantly is the DOG back?

    No DOG on display on Morning Edition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    No DOG on display on Morning Edition.

    News programming never has a DOG/BUG on RTÉ, except Prime Time but I think that is because its Current Affairs!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭✭✭ RonanAnthony


    Don't see the point. One in HD. I New there wundt be much on offer


  • Registered Users Posts: 815 ✭✭✭ mickeyboymel


    Notice the New RTE1+1 is now actually broadcasting the "This channel is currently off air" caption as opposed to the MHEG5 message, presumably because of the additional spectrum available?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    Don't see the point. One in HD. I New there wundt be much on offer

    Ah now that's not quite fair we got a.....
    .... New RTE1+1 is now actually broadcasting the "This channel is currently off air" caption as opposed to the MHEG5 message, presumably because of the additional spectrum available?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭ irishfreeview


    Notice the New RTE1+1 is now actually broadcasting the "This channel is currently off air" caption as opposed to the MHEG5 message, presumably because of the additional spectrum available?

    I wonder why they cant actually broadcast RTE+1 24 hours now that they have the space? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    I wonder why they cant actually broadcast RTE+1 24 hours now that they have the space?

    Dept of Communications approval required, the extra RTÉ channels are up for review by mid 2014.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    Dept of Communications approval required, the extra RTÉ channels are up for review by mid 2014.

    I would say it will be down to rights issues more than dcenr's review or approval.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ Rick_


    So, has RTÉ ONE HD actually launched then, or is it still a test that could be pulled at any time. Don't wanna go changing channels around in my custom EPG if it's gonna be changed!


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    Paddy C wrote: »
    So, has RTÉ ONE HD actually launched then, or is it still a test that could be pulled at any time. Don't wanna go changing channels around in my custom EPG if it's gonna be changed!

    Softest of launches get ready for another 2 re-tunes for TV3 and TG4


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ Rick_


    That I can live with, but if I can have proper access to RTÉ ONE content now in HD when available, that'll do me for now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Paddy C wrote: »
    So, has RTÉ ONE HD actually launched then, or is it still a test that could be pulled at any time.

    RTÉ 1 HD has been moved to LCN 1 so no further retunes for that, Peter Geraghty did mention something about it coming in the new year this morning, official launch with actual HD content I'd guess.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    I would say it will be down to rights issues more than dcenr's review or approval.
    Maybe but any changes will have to get approval as per the Broadcasting Act.


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ marclt


    Does seem a bit of a mess though! The pic quality was much better on RTE1 this morning. Surprised TG4 hasn't made the switch as they are already distributing a HD feed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭ channelsurfer2


    so RTEONE HD is all that is really changed. and given that another 5million has been removed from rte next year not much hope of anything else new.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭ Rick_


    Even if nothing is in HD yet, the improved resolution and bit rate means a better viewing experience over the SD channel so I can take that for now. Maybe RTÉ ONE HD and TG 4 HD are launching at the same time in January? I don't think we're gonna see TV 3 HD for quite some time...


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 ✭✭✭ RonanAnthony


    Yes at least we got something. Although we will need to retune later today as we now have 3 channels saying rescan required. The plus one channel has is saying the same as the old one did


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Paddy C wrote: »
    Even if nothing is in HD yet, the improved resolution and bit rate means a better viewing experience over the SD channel so I can take that for now. Maybe RTÉ ONE HD and TG 4 HD are launching at the same time in January? I don't think we're gonna see TV 3 HD for quite some time...

    Saorview's Brian Geraghty said on Morning Ireland that RTÉ 1 HD will be coming in the new year, actual HD content I'd guess.

    It took RTÉ2 almost 6 months to broadcast true HD content from the time it launched.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,798 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Although we will need to retune later today as we now have 3 channels saying rescan required. The plus one channel has is saying the same as the old one did

    Rescan now, the channels are now on Mux2.

    Saorview Multiplexes this morning

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    11|no channel name (RTÉ 1 simulcast)|SD
    02|RTÉ Two|HD
    03|TV3|SD
    04|TG4|SD
    05|3e|SD
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD
    17|no channel name (RTÉjr simulcast)|SD
    18|no channel name (RTÉ1 +1 simulcast)|SD
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|
    207|(not used**)|
    208|RTÉ Gold|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|
    ** previously RTÉ Choice

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD
    12|(no channel name***)|HD
    13|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14|(no channel name***)|HD
    15|(no channel name/testcard)|SD - RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    16|(not used)|
    07|RTÉjr*|SD
    08|RTÉ One +1*|SD
    211-212|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    213|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    214|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta audio
    215-217|(no radio channel names)|no audio
    218-219|(no radio channel name)|RTÉ Gold audio
    220|(no radio channel name)|no audio

    ***No HD testcards on LCNs 12 and 14 this morning
    * RTÉjr 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Not timesharing on Mux2, static on-air caption on RTÉ1 +1 "This channel is currently off air"


  • Registered Users Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ marclt


    On the test cards with radio sound, if you select the narrative audio, you get test-tone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 Fresh Pots


    Using an amiko alien 2, went and re scanned but as far as I can see nothings changed, rte1 is still saying rescan required as is rte1+1. Still broadcasting in 544x576 also. Am I missing something really obvious here?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    Saorview's Brian Geraghty said on Morning Ireland that RTÉ 1 HD will be coming in the new year, actual HD content I'd guess.

    It took RTÉ2 almost 6 months to broadcast true HD content from the time it launched.

    So why not upscale TG4 and TV3 to avoid another rescan down the road?

    Notice how they didn't move TG4, TV3 and 3e to mux 2 but Digital Aertel is on both muxes.

    Is Aertel showing its logo for other people?


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