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Mux 2 Launched / Saorview Rescan Required

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ galtee boy


    The Cush wrote: »
    Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?

    Surely we won't see UTVi tests until possibly Oct/Nov at the earliest ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,161 Karsini


    galtee boy wrote: »
    Surely we won't see UTVi tests until possibly Oct/Nov at the earliest ?

    I remember that TnaG started testing from Three Rock fairly early in 1996, probably around April or so. TV3 on the other hand only started testing 10 days before launch. I'd say that if we had a real UTVI test then you'd see a test transmission other than the 2RN card.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭ Angelo Gifted Bike


    Karsini wrote: »
    I remember that TnaG started testing from Three Rock fairly early in 1996, probably around April or so. TV3 on the other hand only started testing 10 days before launch. I'd say that if we had a real UTVI test then you'd see a test transmission other than the 2RN card.
    UTVI seem to be putting everything together fairly quickly so I wouln'd be surprised to see some tests beginning in the next two months or so. Especially if tbe carraige deal is done and dusted. It will give the techy guys in 2rn something to look forward too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Early 2015 can't wait!

    January 1, 2015 to be precise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    January 1, 2015 to be precise.

    The Cush two things about Irish Broadcasting

    1. There has to be an indefinite amount of testing done
    2. You don't use specific dates like 1/1/15, nor do you use first quarters.
    3. You use vague seasons of the year that everyone in Ireland has a different view on.

    In this case

    UTV will begin next winter.

    For some this might mean the start of winter e.g. November or December
    Other it might mean the end of winter e.g. Feburary or March.

    So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15 :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭ Lucious Sweet


    Elmo wrote: »

    UTV will begin next winter.

    For some this might mean the start of winter e.g. November or December
    Other it might mean the end of winter e.g. Feburary or March.

    So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15 :pac:

    Will UTV be broadcast in HD?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    So UTV might start between 11/14 or 04/15

    From the UTVI website
    30 May 2014

    UTV Ireland will host a briefing session for independent production companies on Thursday 19 June, 2014 in Dublin to discuss the commissioning process for the new channel which goes on air on January 1, 2015.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Will UTV be broadcast in HD?

    Unknown at this time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    From the UTVI website

    I am joking!


  • Registered Users Posts: 788 Souriau


    The test pattern on LCN 11 is now showing up on my Samsung TVs as unhidden.
    The Cush wrote: »
    Same here after a rescan, getting ready for UTVI test transmissions maybe?
    Is LCN 11 not on Mux 1?
    Would it be better for UTVI to be on Mux 2 as there is more spare capacity?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,912 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato


    They would be mad not to launch in HD.

    I expect they will be doing playout from Belfast? They already have HD facilities there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Souriau wrote: »
    Is LCN 11 not on Mux 1?
    Would it be better for UTVI to be on Mux 2 as there is more spare capacity?

    There's enough spare capacity on Mux1 for 2 SD channels and we don't know which format UTVI will use yet.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,828 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sam Russell


    Last time I checked, there were two HD test cards and one SD.

    I think all of RTE should move to mux1 and the rest to mux2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ galtee boy


    Last time I checked, there were two HD test cards and one SD.

    I think all of RTE should move to mux1 and the rest to mux2.

    Are you sure about those test cards ? My TV is showing two test cards, which appear to be SD ( my TV is HD and correctly flags Rte 1&2 as HD, but not those two test cards ) and the only other channel I see is just a blank silent screen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    On Mux1 there are 2 SD testcards (LCN 11 & 17) and on Mux2 there are 2 HD testcards (LCN 12 & 14) and 2 SD testcards (LCN 13 & 15), all hidden.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,828 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Sam Russell


    Just checked. Ch 11 is SD, ch 12 is HD, ch 13 is SD, ch 14 is HD.

    I do not know which mux they are on.

    Edit: Yes the Cush is right, there are SD channels on 15 and 17.

    So there is plenty of room for TV3 and UTVI to be HD, with room for TG4 as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,161 Karsini


    The Cush is correct. 11 and 17 are on mux 1. The rest are on mux 2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ galtee boy


    The Cush wrote: »
    On Mux1 there are 2 SD testcards (LCN 11 & 17) and on Mux2 there are 2 HD testcards (LCN 12 & 14) and 2 SD testcards (LCN 13 & 15), all hidden.

    Any way of un hiding them ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    galtee boy wrote: »
    Any way of un hiding them ?

    With Ireland as the install country the channels are flagged as hidden, if you use UK as the install country they will be unhidden but all channels will be stored in the 800s. To see a hidden channel simply key in the number manually on the r/c.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    The Cush wrote: »
    On Mux1 there are 2 SD testcards (LCN 11 & 17) and on Mux2 there are 2 HD testcards (LCN 12 & 14) and 2 SD testcards (LCN 13 & 15), all hidden.

    Current Saorview multiplex line-up

    Channel line-up by LCN on a Saorview TV setup with Ireland as the country/region on first install
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    Mux
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD|2|
    02|RTÉ Two|HD|1|
    03|TV3|SD|1|
    04|TG4|SD|1|
    05|3e|SD|1|
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD|1|
    07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|2|
    08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|2|
    09-10|(not used)|||
    11*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|1|previously LCN01 RTÉ1 SD
    12*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|
    13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|TG4 subtitles and teletext tested previously
    15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2|
    16|(not used)|||
    17*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|1|previously LCN07 RTÉ Junior
    18*|-|SD|1|previously LCN08 RTÉ1 +1
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|1|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|1|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|1|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|1|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|1|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio|1|
    207*|-||1|previously RTÉ Choice
    208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|1|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio|1|
    210|(not used)||
    211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|
    213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|
    214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|
    215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|
    249|SSU||1|
    250|SSU||2|

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    02|RTÉ Two|HD|
    03|TV3|SD|
    04|TG4|SD|
    05|3e|SD|
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD|
    11*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|previously LCN01 RTÉ1 SD
    17*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|previously LCN07 RTÉ Junior
    18*|-|SD|previously LCN08 RTÉ1 +1
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio
    207*||previously RTÉ Choice
    208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    01|RTÉ One|HD|
    12*| (no channel name/testcard) |HD|
    13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|
    14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|TG4 subtitles and teletext previously
    15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|
    16|(not used)||
    07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|
    08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|
    211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|
    213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|
    214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|
    215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|no audio

    * Hidden on Saorview receivers but can be selected by entering the channel no. via the remote control
    ** RTÉ Junior 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Timesharing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭ galtee boy


    The Cush wrote: »
    With Ireland as the install country the channels are flagged as hidden, if you use UK as the install country they will be unhidden but all channels will be stored in the 800s. To see a hidden channel simply key in the number manually on the r/c.

    Thanks, I'll have a play around during the week, with the TV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,912 ✭✭✭✭ Hotblack Desiato


    Reports in the thread in the Broadcasting forum of Oireachtas TV test transmissions on LCN 17 today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Reports in the thread in the Broadcasting forum of Oireachtas TV test transmissions on LCN 17 today.

    Current Saorview multiplex line-up

    Channel line-up by LCN on a Saorview TV setup with Ireland as the country/region on first install
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    Mux
    |
    01|RTÉ One|HD|2|
    02|RTÉ Two|HD|1|
    03|TV3|SD|1|
    04|TG4|SD|1|
    05|3e|SD|1|
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD|1|
    07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|2|
    08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|2|
    09-10|(not used)|||
    11*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|1|previously LCN01 RTÉ1 SD
    12*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|
    13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2|RTÉ Lyric FM audio
    14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|2|TG4 subtitles and teletext tested previously
    15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|2|
    16|(not used)|||
    17*|Oireachtas TV test transmission|SD|1|previously LCN07 RTÉ Junior
    18*|-|SD|1|previously LCN08 RTÉ1 +1
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|1|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|1|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|1|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|1|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|1|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|1|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio|1|
    207*|-||1|previously RTÉ Choice
    208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|1|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio|1|
    210|(not used)||
    211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|
    213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|
    214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|2|
    215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|2|
    249|SSU||1|
    250|SSU||2|

    Multiplex 1
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    02|RTÉ Two|HD|
    03|TV3|SD|
    04|TG4|SD|
    05|3e|SD|
    06|RTÉ News Now|SD|
    11*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|previously LCN01 RTÉ1 SD
    17*|Oireachtas TV test transmission|SD|previously LCN07 RTÉ Junior
    18*|-|SD|previously LCN08 RTÉ1 +1
    200|RTÉ Radio 1|Radio|
    201|RTÉ Radio 1 Extra|Radio|
    202|RTÉ 2FM|Radio|
    203|RTÉ Lyric FM|Radio|
    204|RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta|Radio|
    205|RTÉ Pulse|Radio|
    206|RTÉ 2XM|Radio
    207*||previously RTÉ Choice
    208|RTÉ Gold|Radio|
    209|RTÉ Junior/RTÉ Chill|Radio

    Multiplex 2
    LCN
    |
    Channel
    ||
    01|RTÉ One|HD|
    12*| (no channel name/testcard) |HD|
    13*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|
    14*|(no channel name/testcard)|HD|TG4 subtitles and teletext previously
    15*|(no channel name/testcard)|SD|
    16|(not used)||
    07|RTÉ Junior**|SD|
    08|RTÉ One +1**|SD|
    211-212*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|
    213*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|
    214*|(no radio channel name)|Radio|
    215-220*|(no radio channel names)|Radio|no audio

    * Hidden on Saorview receivers but can be selected by entering the channel no. via the remote control
    ** RTÉ Junior 0700-1845 approx / RTÉ One +1 1900-0100/0200 approx. Timesharing


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    Why put the OirTV test on Mux 1?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Why put the OirTV test on Mux 1?

    Why not, there's capacity there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭ Elmo


    The Cush wrote: »
    Why not, there's capacity there.

    Would you not put on the second mux where there is more capacity?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    Elmo wrote: »
    Would you not put on the second mux where there is more capacity?
    There's capacity for 2 SD channels on Mux1 and Oireachtas TV is an SD channel so no extra capacity required.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭ Angelo Gifted Bike


    I turned on my Panasonic TV this morning and I got the message new channels found and to store the new channels do a rescan. When I did the rescan it showed 17 channels on Mux 1 and 17 channels on Mux 2. Numbers nine and ten can now be viewed if you use tne number keys I also have a number of hidden test channels that now go up to 34. Most of them have no video message and OTV test channel has moved to 21.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ The Cush


    From Mullaghanish 28 services found on Mux1 and Mux2.

    Hidden LCNs 18-26, 32-34, 207 on Mux1
    - testcards LCN 21-22 (previously on LCNs 17 & 11)

    Hidden LCNs 9-17, 27-31, 210-219 on Mux2
    - testcards LCN 12-15


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭ Angelo Gifted Bike


    The Cush wrote: »
    From Mullaghanish 28 services found on Mux1 and Mux2.

    Hidden LCNs 18-26, 32-34, 207 on Mux1
    - testcards LCN 21-22 (previously on LCNs 17 & 11)

    Hidden LCNs 9-17, 27-31, 210-219 on Mux2
    - testcards LCN 12-15
    Thanks Cush for sorting out all tne LCN numbers on each Mux. I didn't think there were that many test channels left on each Mux. I thought maybe 8 or 9 on eah one. What are they going to put on them all? LCN 16 is also accessible by pressing the number keys.


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