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Have you done ecstasy or MDMA.

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    #32
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    How do you know the powder that someone gives/sells you is MDMA?

    We're not going through this again. People I know buy it in advance from trusted sources. Even so, there is always an element of risk (even though it's practically miniscule). So just leave it to the "pillheads" to have their fun while you laugh down at them. Win win for both parties.

    For what it's worth, there is nothing better than being with people you like and being hit by a good, clean pill. It's the best feeling ever. I would go as far as to say I pity anyone who is in their twenties in this day and age and point blank refuses to try it - but that's just my opinion.


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    #33
    FTA69
    Registered Users Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    fearrua wrote: »
    almost everyone I know on the course do various pills on nights out, and I still don't really get why to be honest.

    Because obviously it's a f*cking laugh. Why else do you think they do it? They enjoy it like. That's one of the biggest things that often gets lost in the "drugs are bad" narrative; people take them because it's a pleasurable activity.


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    #34
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    fearrua wrote: »
    On my old DCU course, nobody did any drugs bar booze and a few guys who smoked pot. When I dropped out and started going to Trinners it was like a whole new world, almost everyone I know on the course do various pills on nights out, and I still don't really get why to be honest.

    I find the country lads are the ones with the biggest stigma towards drugs, and in my experience it's the casual GAA players who are the worst for it. They'd never touch a pill but they'll wash their weekly game of football down with 12 pints every weekend no bother.


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    #35
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,364 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    We're not going through this again. People I know buy it in advance from trusted sources. Even so, there is always an element of risk (even though it's practically miniscule). So just leave it to the "pillheads" to have their fun while you laugh down at them. Win win for both parties.

    For what it's worth, there is nothing better than being with people you like and being hit by a good, clean pill. It's the best feeling ever. I would go as far as to say I pity anyone who is in their twenties in this day and age and point blank refuses to try it - but that's just my opinion.

    A reputable dealer ?


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    #36
    TimeToShine
    Registered Users Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭TimeToShine


    corner of hells wrote: »
    A reputable dealer ?

    People you know to have tried the stuff before. People who are in some way connected to your social circle.


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    #37
    turnikett1
    Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭turnikett1


    100's of times. Drinking and drugs is the best craic. It's even better when you can both drink/take drugs incessantly AND manage to go to university and lead a successful life (well, I did fail my 2nd year and have been out for 2 years but Im going back!).

    Going to festivals is literally one of my favourite past times ever.
    TimeToShine wrote: »
    People you know to have tried the stuff before. People who are in some way connected to your social circle.

    lol, to be honest, even doing it with complete strangers also off their chops is great fun


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    #38
    MattHelders
    Registered Users Posts: 303 ✭✭MattHelders


    corner of hells wrote: »
    A reputable dealer ?

    Yes plenty of them around. Even if you don't trust local, the silk road is nearly always perfect


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    #39
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    We're not going through this again. People I know buy it in advance from trusted sources. Even so, there is always an element of risk (even though it's practically miniscule). So just leave it to the "pillheads" to have their fun while you laugh down at them. Win win for both parties.

    So the answer is, "we can't know." That's fair enough.
    TimeToShine wrote: »
    For what it's worth, there is nothing better than being with people you like and being hit by a good, clean pill. It's the best feeling ever. I would go as far as to say I pity anyone who is in their twenties in this day and age and point blank refuses to try it - but that's just my opinion.

    As opposed to all the dirty ones out there? But there's only a "miniscule" risk of that right? What with all the quality assurance checks nowadays.


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    #40
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    corner of hells wrote: »
    A reputable dealer ?

    Yeah, it's all about looking into their eyes apparently.


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    #41
    turnikett1
    Registered Users Posts: 676 ✭✭✭turnikett1


    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    As opposed to all the dirty ones out there? But there's only a "miniscule" risk of that right? What with all the quality assurance checks nowadays.

    Most pills/mdma/speed or whatever is tested by it's manufacturers first. They obviously want a product that keeps people coming back for more. There's websites online that will help you identify your pill and give you feedback on it. There really is a miniscule risk. Me and my friends have taken all the drugs under the stars (way too) many times and not once has one of us ever suffered serious side effects - apart from some people becoming space cadets of course.

    Unless you're buying from absolute knackers, then the chances of being shítty, cut risky drugs are raised a lot higher.


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    #42
    JamboMac
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?


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    #43
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    JamboMac wrote: »
    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?

    Middle class drug users hate when people call them junkies.

    To me, anyone who uses illegal drugs is a junkie.


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    #44
    Maximus Alexander
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    It doesn't appeal to me at all really, doubt I'll ever try it.


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    #45
    Maximus Alexander
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    To me, anyone who uses illegal drugs is a junkie.

    That's redefining the word junkie. There's no reason to do that unless you're deliberately trying to annoy people. A junkie is an addict by definition.


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    #46
    RollieFingers
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    JamboMac wrote: »
    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?

    LOL! People don't get addicted to ecstasy like they do heroin.


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    #47
    thomas anderson.
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    Done it, loved it.

    So much better than alcohol


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    #48
    TimeToShine
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    JamboMac wrote: »
    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?

    This is ludicrous.

    Casual drug users keep it to the weekend, go to college or have a 9-5 job and pay their taxes just like everyone else. I guarantee you there are people you know and respect who have taken/still do take drugs - would you immediately label them as junkies if you found out?

    MDMA is not addictive - habitual perhaps but certainly not addictive like heroin. Some of the delusion here is baffling - it's fine if you don't want to try it yourself but to label users as junkies is embarrassing.


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    #49
    gimmick
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    JamboMac wrote: »
    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?

    A junkie is someone whose every waking moment is craving their next hit.

    Someone who takes the odd e is certainly not a junkie, but a casual user.

    I took ecstacy quite a bit as a teen/early 20s. Enjoyed it at the time, but wouldn't bother my arse with it anymore.


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    #50
    JamboMac
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    nouninformal
    a drug addict.
    a person with a compulsive habit or obsessive dependency on something.
    "power junkies"

    That's the definition and compulsive habit is easily as such that every Friday before you go out you do these and then your jaw is swinging for the rest of the night and make probably a lot of people who don't know you uncomfortable, that feel your unpredictable in your head you might think everybody loves but there more afraid to say anything.


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    #51
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    That's redefining the word junkie. There's no reason to do that unless you're deliberately trying to annoy people. A junkie is an addict by definition.

    Perhaps, but the definition of words can change over time.

    Illegal drug users are junkies in my book.


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    #52
    gimmick
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    JamboMac wrote: »

    That's the definition and compulsive habit is easily as such that every Friday before you go out you do these and then your jaw is swinging for the rest of the night and make probably a lot of people who don't know you uncomfortable, that feel your unpredictable in your head you might think everybody loves but there more afraid to say anything.


    That is some sentence!


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    #53
    JamboMac
    Registered Users Posts: 3,952 ✭✭✭JamboMac


    TimeToShine wrote: »
    This is ludicrous.

    Casual drug users keep it to the weekend, go to college or have a 9-5 job and pay their taxes just like everyone else. I guarantee you there are people you know and respect who have taken/still do take drugs - would you immediately label them as junkies if you found out?

    MDMA is not addictive - habitual perhaps but certainly not addictive like heroin. Some of the delusion here is baffling - it's fine if you don't want to try it yourself but to label users as junkies is embarrassing.

    Many heroin addicts have jobs too and come from the rich to the poor and none of them see themselves as a junkie either.

    I'm not trying to actually offend and I'm sure there's more like me with similar opinion.


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    #54
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    JamboMac wrote: »
    Many heroin addicts have jobs too and come from the rich to the poor and none of them see themselves as a junkie either.

    I'm not trying to actually offend and I'm sure there's more like me with similar opinion.

    I think you guys need to come up with a catchy word for 'recreational drug user', because the one you're using now doesn't mean that and makes you look antagonistic.


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    #55
    TheGlass
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    Take it every now and then, 3-4 times a year. Good fun, and I think its had a positive impact on my life, made me a lot more open in general, and able talk to friends about stuff we'd probably have kept bottled up before.
    FTA69 wrote: »
    Some of it is. There's plenty of that stuff cut up as well. The "one pill could kill you stone dead" is one of the biggest moral panics we had in the past few decades anyway. You're more likely to die after a few pints than you are after taking ecstasy.
    There are dodgy pills out there, especially now that ecstasy seems to be making a comeback, it pays to be vigilant.
    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    So the answer is, "we can't know." That's fair enough.



    As opposed to all the dirty ones out there? But there's only a "miniscule" risk of that right? What with all the quality assurance checks nowadays.
    In Ireland maybe not, in more enlightened countries they have drug testing centers where you can bring in your pill and test it. It at least ensures the user knows what they're taking is safe.
    JamboMac wrote: »
    Here's a quick question but before that to respond to the initial one never have and to be quite honest people that do these drugs to me are as much junkies as heroin addicts.

    So in your mind what defines a junkie?
    Ridiculous. That's like saying someone who goes out once a month to eat in a restaurant and has a glass of wine with their meal is a full blown alcoholic


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    #56
    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Maximus Alexander wrote: »
    I think you guys need to come up with a catchy word for 'recreational drug user', because the one you're using now doesn't mean that and makes you look antagonistic.

    How about "criminal"?


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    FTA69
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Middle class drug users hate when people call them junkies.

    To me, anyone who uses illegal drugs is a junkie.

    So anyone who smokes a joint is akin to an intravenous addict with a fixation for heroin?

    I'm sorry but you're talking out your f*cking hoop.


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    Maximus Alexander
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    How about "criminal"?

    That only works for a subset of recreational drug users, but it's more accurate. Getting warmer.


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    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    FTA69 wrote: »
    So anyone who smokes a joint is akin to an intravenous addict with a fixation for heroin?

    I'm sorry but you're talking out your f*cking hoop.

    Akin in the sense that they are both junkies...users of "junk".


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    #60
    desultory
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    I Heart Internet wrote: »
    Akin in the sense that they are both junkies...users of "junk".

    As are people who eat junk food then? Everyone you see going into mcdonalds you refer to as a junkie yeah?


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    I Heart Internet
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    desultory wrote: »
    As are people who eat junk food then? Everyone you see going into mcdonalds you refer to as a junkie yeah?

    They're foodies :p


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