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Way to go Sinn Fein

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  • #992
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    This is too funny seeing as its coming from our very own, previously banned, loyalist bandsboy, UVF lover, and all round nasty little fella who gets his kicks from being a WUM on an Irish based discussion forum.
    What are you on about? You seem like a trouble maker and a deeply unpleasant person I have been told.


  • #993
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    You seem to have a good knowledge of these issues. Fair play.

    Maybe we can drop the childishness now.


    Not really, I just understand basic English.


  • #994
    Nesta99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭Nesta99


    Love it when reality politics hits home on those who have been pontificating from oppisition benches. As soon as they cross the floor it dawns that pragmatism will ultimately rule on policies.

    It was funny when the DUP became the biggest Unionist party and the suddenly had the reality of continued conflict in their hands and they backpeddled to share power with Republicans.

    Now the same is likely to happen when the Shinners go looking to implement promises and they realise the coffers are bare and there will be another dose of backpeddling by a Nothern Irish party!


  • #995
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    What are you on about? You seem like a trouble maker and a deeply unpleasant person I have been told.

    The above is a fine example of what's known as 'Psychological Projection'.
    Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending oneself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in oneself, while attributing them to others.

    Sigmund Freud, Case Histories II (PFL 9) p. 132

    Haven't you got band practice? The marching season is just around the corner (no pun intended).


  • #996
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    The above is a fine example of what's known as 'Psychological Projection'.



    Haven't you got band practice? The marching season is just around the corner (no pun intended).
    Why are you being so sectarian? This is utterly bizarre.


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  • #997
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Why are you being so sectarian? This is utterly bizarre.
    Psychological projection is the act or technique of defending oneself against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in oneself, while attributing them to others.

    Sigmund Freud, Case Histories II (PFL 9) p. 132
    .


  • #998
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Nesta99 wrote: »
    a Nothern Irish party!

    SF is an all island Party.


  • #999
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    .
    Are you trying to tell us you are a lunatic and hate anyone from the Orange tradition? :confused:


  • #1000
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    Are you trying to tell us you are a lunatic and hate anyone from the Orange tradition? :confused:

    Unlike many members of the OO I don't hate anyone - not even you Keith. I don't judge people by their religion, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or what bizarre organisations they choose to fraternise with.

    I judge people by the content of their character.

    Tell me, how many Catholics, Muslims, Jews, openly gay people are there in the marching bands these days?

    Let me make an educated guess... none.


  • #1001
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Ah lads please give it a rest.

    If someone suspects another poster is a re-reg can ye not just report them and stop dragging the thread off topic with the bickering?

    Failing that - everybody should eat a snickers.


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  • #1002
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Unlike many members of the OO I don't hate anyone - not even you Keith. I don't judge people by their religion, skin colour, race, sexual orientation or what bizarre organisations they choose to fraternise with.

    I judge people by the content of their character.

    Tell me, how many Catholics, Muslims, Jews, openly gay people are there in the marching bands these days?

    Let me make an educated guess... none.
    Don't know why you are asking me.

    You seem like a deeply sectarian person and these recent posts show me that. I have been told this via PM.


  • #1003
    umop.episdn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭umop.episdn


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Ah lads please give it a rest.

    If someone suspects another poster is a re-reg can ye not just report them and stop dragging the thread off topic with the bickering?

    Failing that - everybody should eat a snickers.

    I've eaten so many snickers reading this thread I've put on 3 stone!


  • #1004
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    umop.episdn wrote: »
    I've eaten so many snickers reading this thread I've put on 3 stone!

    Imagine how I feel - I'm diabetic. :eek:


  • #1005
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Lastlight. wrote: »
    You seem like a deeply sectarian person and these recent posts show me that.

    You're lying or you have poor reading comprehension.
    I have been told this via PM.

    I don't care.

    I'll leave it now because other people want to discuss the rise of SF.


  • #1006
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    You're lying or you have poor reading comprehension.



    I don't care.

    I'll leave it now because other people want to discuss the rise of SF.
    Good, enough of the insults and rubbish.


  • #1007
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    SF is an all island Party.
    Yet their policies are not


  • #1008
    Karl Stein
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yet their policies are not

    How could they be short of a UI?


  • #1009
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yet their policies are not

    Of course not, they are in 2 different jurisdictions


  • #1010
    Lastlight.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 203 ✭✭Lastlight.


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yet their policies are not
    It would be a stretch to even call it policies. Sinn Fein don't have any reasonable and realistic policies to get the Republic back on track.


  • #1011
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    So back on topic.

    People have criticised SF's plans to reform taxation complaining that the 'high earners' will be unfairly penalised when in reality it would appear that Ireland's tax regime favours the high earners by giving them extra little breaks..
    Tax breaks cut the tax bill of an individual earning €35,000 by about 5 per cent. The more an individual earns over €35,000, the more the value of tax relief increases – until the earnings hit €75,000.

    Tax breaks chop 10 per cent off the bill faced by a person earning €75,000. The extent to which tax breaks can ease a tax bill starts to fall after that – but not that drastically.

    For example, tax relief knocks about 9 per cent off the bill of an individual earning €100,000. However, tax breaks hardly knock anything off the bill of those earning €20,000 or less – if at all.

    "The tax-break regime we have in this country is grossly inequitable," said Nat O'Connor, director of TASC.

    "It's one of the ways that high earners can get away with paying significantly less income tax than others. One of the most valuable tax breaks is pension tax relief – and most of this relief is paid to the top 20 per cent of earners."
    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/the-perfect-salary-is-75k-if-you-want-to-maximise-your-tax-breaks-30301056.html

    I, for one, would be happy to see tax breaks done away with altogether but I do think an argument could be made for one parent to be allowed a specified tax free allowance for each child - say 50% of the standard single person allowance.


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  • #1012
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yet their policies are not

    We are talking about two different jurisdictions here. That have the different tax regimes, health services & structures and so on and so forth. So how could their policies apply to both?


  • #1013
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Yet their policies are not
    How can they be if the laws of each jurisdiction are different? Nonsense moan.


  • #1014
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    It also appears that our brave government have no problem with burning bondholders - as long as those bondholders are Irish private investors and not banks, hedge funds etc etc.

    Yet still people will say SF policies will ruin people - tell that to the people who lost their money in Custom House Capital.

    As for the 'regulators' - that well known lefty Shane Ross is pretty damning http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/shane-ross/regulation-a-fiasco-and-we-all-know-who-loses-30301069.html

    Wouldn't it be nice to have a government that actually regulates the regulators? Mary-Lou seems to have an appetite for that kind of thing...


  • #1015
    mrsbyrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Smidge wrote: »
    Oh god :(
    I'm a sucker for it!
    You still haven't told us why you are the only person on this thread who really knows how the housing situation really works.
    Enlighten us, O wise one

    So you don't have any answer regarding solving the housing problem then? Your just throwing out old nonsense about property developers and private landlords. Typical.


  • #1016
    Son Of A Vidic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Yet still people will say SF policies will ruin people - tell that to the people who lost their money in Custom House Capital.

    A little nation is bankrupted by unregulated, incompetent, out of control bankers and their elite cliques. And apparently it's Sinn Féin we all have to be worried about. I always find that nonsense particularly laughable.


  • #1017
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    So you don't have any answer regarding solving the housing problem then? Your just throwing out old nonsense about property developers and private landlords. Typical.
    A wealth tax might convince second house owners to shift their stock. :)


  • #1018
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A wealth tax might convince second house owners to shift their stock. :)

    That's what the property tax is. Seems to have been unpopular though? :confused:


  • #1019
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    That's what the property tax is. Seems to have been unpopular though? :confused:
    Property tax is on primary residence too, wealth tax is only on secondary.


  • #1020
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A wealth tax might convince second house owners to shift their stock. :)

    Who will they sell them to? The people who can't get mortgages because people claim the banks aren't lending?


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  • #1021
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Property tax is on primary residence too, wealth tax is only on secondary.

    So people who own a single property worth €10 million are exempt? Great wealth tax you have there.


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