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Way to go Sinn Fein

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  • #1022
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    So people who own a single property worth €10 million are exempt? Great wealth tax you have there.

    Yeah, apparently we finally have the definition of wealthy and it's someone who owns more than one house.


  • #1023
    Reformed Character
    Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Reformed Character


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A wealth tax might convince second house owners to shift their stock. :)

    Then you must be really annoyed that a wealth tax is no longer part of SF economic policy.


  • #1024
    Smidge
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    Actually, I'm probably one of the only people on this thread who DOES know. So tell me. When the government pulls the plug on rent supplement to divert the funds to the upgrading of these fabulous unfinished estates, where will the tenants live while the work is being done? Round at your house?
    mrsbyrne wrote: »
    So you don't have any answer regarding solving the housing problem then? Your just throwing out old nonsense about property developers and private landlords. Typical.

    Typical of what?
    Typical of people who have the audacity to dare question the governments policies? Of why they have allowed the housing crisis to continue unchecked?

    YOU haven't answered the question of how YOU are one of the only people on this thread who has the answer.
    If you have the solution and don't care for mine, enlighten us.


  • #1025
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Who will they sell them to? The people who can't get mortgages because people claim the banks aren't lending?
    Well that's private sector banks for you. Blame them for that.
    What, you want more regulations to MAKE them lend?!?!


  • #1026
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    upyores wrote: »
    Then you must be really annoyed that a wealth tax is no longer part of SF economic policy.
    Apparently everybody in the country wants unaffordable houses. Who are SF to argue?


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  • #1027
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    So people who own a single property worth €10 million are exempt? Great wealth tax you have there.
    If they're living in it, yeah. Too confusing for you?


  • #1028
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Yeah, apparently we finally have the definition of wealthy and it's someone who owns more than one house.
    As opposed to your definition? Oh, you didn't give one... no surprise there.


  • #1029
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    If they're living in it, yeah. Too confusing for you?

    I'm confused as to what problems you expect it to solve. I'm also confused as to why you label it as a "wealth tax", it's not taxing wealth. It's taxing property ergo it is a property tax, maybe you should call it "second property tax"?


  • #1030
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    I'm confused as to what problems you expect it to solve. I'm also confused as to why you label it as a "wealth tax", it's not taxing wealth. It's taxing property ergo it is a property tax, maybe you should call it "second property tax"?
    A wealth tax excluding primary residence? Is there something about that straightforward combination of common words that you are having difficulty understanding?


  • #1031
    Woodville56
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    Just watching TV news from some of the count centres - SF successful candidates and their supporters wrapping the National Flag round their shoulders and swinging it about wildly !Its most unedifying and disrespectful of our flag, its not just their flag its represents our country and deserves more respect. Ok you find it happens at sporting events but wouldn't be impressed with that either, our flag is a symbol of our nation, not something to be used as a victory banner or party accessory..by any party !


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  • #1032
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,076 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    So what grouping are the Shinners attached to in the European parliament?


  • #1033
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    LordSutch wrote: »
    So what grouping are the Shinners attached to in the European parliament?


    The GUE.
    http://www.guengl.eu/group/about


  • #1034
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,858 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Diego Simeone wrote: »
    I'm confused as to what problems you expect it to solve. I'm also confused as to why you label it as a "wealth tax", it's not taxing wealth. It's taxing property ergo it is a property tax, maybe you should call it "second property tax"?

    Or maybe, and work with me here, a "Non-Principal Private Residence" charge....


  • #1035
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,879 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    It also appears that our brave government have no problem with burning bondholders - as long as those bondholders are Irish private investors and not banks, hedge funds etc etc.

    Yet still people will say SF policies will ruin people - tell that to the people who lost their money in Custom House Capital.

    As for the 'regulators' - that well known lefty Shane Ross is pretty damning http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/shane-ross/regulation-a-fiasco-and-we-all-know-who-loses-30301069.html

    Wouldn't it be nice to have a government that actually regulates the regulators? Mary-Lou seems to have an appetite for that kind of thing...

    When SF won't even acknowledge that there is a property tax in the North we haven't much hope of proper economics from them here.

    http://www.nidirect.gov.uk/what-are-rates

    What are rates?

    Rates are a property tax based on the valuation of your home. The income from rates provides funding for services at both local (your council) and regional (NI Assembly) levels.


    I wonder how many of their TD's still haven't paid their Household Charge. I think we should be told. And an explanation as to how their politicians donate most of their salary to the party but none of those donations have been registered with the Standards in Public Office commission.

    http://www.sipo.gov.ie/en/reports/annual-disclosures/disclosure-by-political-parties/2012-donation-statements/2012-donation-statements.pdf

    If she is living on the average industrial wage it must be a big comedown for Mary Lou given her priveleged background. It's surprising how many fee paying privately educated people like Mary Lou and Richard Boyd Barret turn into socialists (or in his case a Trotskyite)

    That other well known leftie Shane Ross was one of the biggest fan boys for Anglo Irish back in the day. He tends not to mention that too often these days.


  • #1036
    Banjo String
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,380 ✭✭✭✭Banjo String


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    Just watching TV news from some of the count centres - SF successful candidates and their supporters wrapping the National Flag round their shoulders and swinging it about wildly !Its most unedifying and disrespectful of our flag, its not just their flag its represents our country and deserves more respect. Ok you find it happens at sporting events but wouldn't be impressed with that either, our flag is a symbol of our nation, not something to be used as a victory banner or party accessory..by any party !

    The bastards.

    Off with their heads.


  • #1037
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    Just watching TV news from some of the count centres - SF successful candidates and their supporters wrapping the National Flag round their shoulders and swinging it about wildly !Its most unedifying and disrespectful of our flag, its not just their flag its represents our country and deserves more respect. Ok you find it happens at sporting events but wouldn't be impressed with that either, our flag is a symbol of our nation, not something to be used as a victory banner or party accessory..by any party !
    Talk about desperate for something to moan about...


  • #1038
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,559 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A wealth tax excluding primary residence? Is there something about that straightforward combination of common words that you are having difficulty understanding?

    Yeah...

    1. What makes it a wealth tax? Is it going to tax anything outside of property?
    2. Do you realise that this already exists and has done for a number of years?


  • #1039
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    Just watching TV news from some of the count centres - SF successful candidates and their supporters wrapping the National Flag round their shoulders and swinging it about wildly !Its most unedifying and disrespectful of our flag, its not just their flag its represents our country and deserves more respect. Ok you find it happens at sporting events but wouldn't be impressed with that either, our flag is a symbol of our nation, not something to be used as a victory banner or party accessory..by any party !

    It has been used for decades in both sport and politics, time to get over it


  • #1040
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    How could they be short of a UI?
    So up north SF are happy to dole out the austerity and sit pretty as establishment fat cats yet in the south make promises of a socialist utopia which they can never possibly make good on? You see no contradiction? I am aware that they are different jurisdictions but at least a semblance of consistency would be nice.


  • #1041
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    A wealth tax might convince second house owners to shift their stock. :)

    So now people on a decent wage shouldn't own a second home? What about the poor pensioners you consistantly lament about that have a small holiday village down the country or near the seaside?


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  • #1042
    Tokarev
    Closed Accounts Posts: 161 ✭✭Tokarev


    Woodville56 wrote: »
    Just watching TV news from some of the count centres - SF successful candidates and their supporters wrapping the National Flag round their shoulders and swinging it about wildly !Its most unedifying and disrespectful of our flag, its not just their flag its represents our country and deserves more respect. Ok you find it happens at sporting events but wouldn't be impressed with that either, our flag is a symbol of our nation, not something to be used as a victory banner or party accessory..by any party !

    Stop taking nonsense.

    The Irish Flag is for all Irish to embrace.


  • #1043
    A Dub in Glasgo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,075 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


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    18:23

    Elaine Keogh has a touching story of love, Republican politics and set design intertwining on Louth county council.


    'The count in Louth saw the creation of a new political couple as Alan Cassidy (28) and Jennifer Green (31) were each elected to the new Louth county council for Sinn Fein. The couple, who have two children, are due to marry later this year but Jennifer, who was elected for Dundalk South, says wedding plans, “are all organised. It is all done and dusted.” The couple met as students in Dundalk Institute of Technology (DkIT) where they were taking Cultural Studies. “I was doing acting and asked to change to set design. Alan was already doing set design and we bonded over two intense weeks on the set. We were united in our interest of art, culture, and nature and the outdoors,” she said.'


  • #1044
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So now people on a decent wage shouldn't own a second home? What about the poor pensioners you consistantly lament about that have a small holiday village down the country or near the seaside?
    Decadent swine!


  • #1045
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    So up north SF are happy to dole out the austerity
    You just made up the bit about them being happy to do so, didn't you?
    Aw, thought you'd get away with it too I bet.


  • #1046
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,287 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    As opposed to your definition? Oh, you didn't give one... no surprise there.

    I'm not silly enough to try to give a strict definition to the concept of someone being "wealthy" because I'm not trying to get elected by demonising a particular sector of society by turning into a bogeyman that ruined the country singlehandedly.


  • #1047
    Dan_Solo
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    bumper234 wrote: »
    So now people on a decent wage shouldn't own a second home? What about the poor pensioners you consistantly lament about that have a small holiday village down the country or near the seaside?
    They own a small holiday village? Dunno, sound wealthy enough to me...


  • #1048
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    You just made up the bit about them being happy to do so, didn't you?
    Aw, thought you'd get away with it too I bet.
    The point being that the do so up north because it is necessary yet claim they would end austerity down south despite it being just as, if not more necessary there. Codology.


  • #1049
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,879 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Or maybe, and work with me here, a "Non-Principal Private Residence" charge....

    Would these number surprise you at all in our times of austerity?

    Multiple Property Owners

    There are around 176,600 individuals that are designated liable persons for two or more properties (this covers 550,800 properties). Properties owned by Local Authorities and approved housing bodies are excluded from the analysis    .


    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/lpt/lpt-stats-0414.pdf

    The NPPR was only paid on about 340,000 of those properties so there is a lot to be collected whenever they change hands if not before. Unless SF get in and let them off.


  • #1050
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    donegal__road wrote: »
    :pac:


    .


    For the love of jaysus, put a warnin on that.


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  • #1051
    Woodville56
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Woodville56


    "Stop taking nonsense. - The Irish Flag is for all Irish to embrace. "
    "It has been used for decades in both sport and politics, time to get over it"
    "Talk about desperate for something to moan about..."

    Its disrespectful to use our national flag in such a jingoistic way , though you Shinners would be a bit more patriotic about it. It's a the national flag of the Irish Republic, represents ALL Irish and not just SF, much as you would like it otherwise and I for one do not wish to see my flag used as a SF party scarf/mascot !
    Your nasty comments even in this regard betray the contempt which your party shows for those who don't see things your way !


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