The "What is this Irish word/phrase in English" thread

deirdremf wrote: »

Well, I can accept that the word might be makey-uppy, the written language is full of them. But what word would you use instead of "ciontóir"?

BTW an cainteoir dúchais tú? An fáth leis an gceist, ná go bhfuil go leor foghlaimeoirí anseo (mise ina measc!) agus is minic an té ar leathshúil ina rí (nó ina banríon) anseo.

I'm assuming it means "guy who did the foul" (not sure of an appropriate English word). Ciontach means "guilty" and ciontóir is making a noun of this adjective.

deirdremf wrote: »

Does that make it good Irish?
I mean, I know that you can do it, but Samantha seemed to think it wasn't good Irish, so I'm wondering what would be a better way to say it in her opinion.

Nothing wrong with it IMO.

Worztron wrote: »

Hi guys.

Can someone tell me the Irish words for these places?

• Swansea
• Wrexham

This page give Wales and Cardiff only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_exonyms

When there is no Irish word we leave them as they are.
In this case you could use the Welsh Abertawe and Wrecsam.
In the page you list they have no 'r' in Caerdydd for Cardiff but I do like their alternative Cathairdaf.

Worztron wrote: »

Hi guys.

Can someone tell me the Irish words for these places?

• Swansea
• Wrexham

This page give Wales and Cardiff only. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irish_exonyms[/QUOTE]

Just realized that you are looking for the Irish placenames, not the Welsh! As Gal Gréine mentions, Irish placenames are often left in their orginal form, so you could just leave them as they are. But they are frequently translated i.e. Talamh an Éisc (Newfoundland), Páras (Paris), and usually where there is a historic or linguistic connection. I think you could write Wrecsam (Welsh) as Recsam, taking out the W. Re. Swansea, if you follow the example given on the translation of Cardiff, you could use Béal Tawe. Others might know more than me on placenames in Welsh, though...

deirdremf wrote: »

Well, I can accept that the word might be makey-uppy, the written language is full of them. But what word would you use instead of "ciontóir"?

BTW an cainteoir dúchais tú? An fáth leis an gceist, ná go bhfuil go leor foghlaimeoirí anseo (mise ina measc!) agus is minic an té ar leathshúil ina rí (nó ina banríon) anseo.

Móra dhuit ar maidin, is ea, is cainteoir (ciontóir!) dúchais mé. Cad fútsa? Tá an Ghaeilge ar do thoil agat , pé scéal é ach go háirithe. Nílim deimhnitheach I ndáiríre an bhfuil aon fhocal amháin a shásódh aistriúchán ar 'offender.' Is dóígh liom go bhfeilfeadh rud éigin simplí ar nós 'an té a théann i mbun ciona/an té a imríonn faillí..'ach b'fhéidir go bhfuil sin pas beag útámálach, leis.

Samantha4 wrote: »

Móra dhuit ar maidin, is ea, is cainteoir (ciontóir!) dúchais mé. Cad fútsa? Tá an Ghaeilge ar do thoil agat , pé scéal é ach go háirithe. Nílim deimhnitheach I ndáiríre an bhfuil aon fhocal amháin a shásódh aistriúchán ar 'offender.' Is dóígh liom go bhfeilfeadh rud éigin simplí ar nós 'an té a théann i mbun ciona/an té a imríonn faillí..'ach b'fhéidir go bhfuil sin pas beag útámálach, leis.

Foghlaimeoir bocht mise, faraoir, le hualach mór ceisteanna faoi gach gné den Ghaeilge!

Ó thaobh an chiontóra de, is dócha go mbíonn daoine ag iarraidh focal amháin in aghaidh focail Bhéarla, nó rud eicínt gairid, gonta ar a laghad. Ach ní mar sin a fheidhmíonn cúrsaí an tsaoil, ná cúrsaí teanga ach a oiread.

Bheinn féin sásta le "fear an chiona" nó "bean an chiona", nó b'féidir "fear/bean/lucht déanta an chiona".

Samantha4 wrote: »

Is minic go mbíodh ceisteanna ar phróiseas an aistrithe idir chamáin ar sheanachlár Raidió na Gaeltachta , faoi stiúir Liam Mhic Con Iomaire. (níl teideal an chláir ag rith liom faoi láthair). Cuireadh deireadh leis, ar chúis éigin, tá tamall de bhlianta ann ó bhí sé ar siúl.

Is mairg gur imigh 'Leagan Cainte' le Nan Fudge, Dónal Ó Baoill agus Seosamh Ó Cuaig as na cúigí éagsúla, agus roimhe sin 'Gaoth an fhocail'. Bhí am acu na ceisteanna a chíoradh agus a phlé. Tá triúir ana-mhaith ann go fóill ar chlár 'Rónán Beo' ach deifir níos mó curtha orthu.

Couple of points.

Rughadh mé i mBaile Átha Cliath agus táim i mo chónaí i nDúndroma

Nothing wrong with tá mé, but you used táim before it, better to have consistency than to mix dialectal tendencies. Oh, and you'll get away with Rugadh mé i... most of the time, but in Irish it's more natural to say Rugadh i...mé

Mixing aon and ar bith doesn't work in my opinion. Also, nó, which which or, becomes nor in the negative (technically this happens in English, too, but people generally don't adhere to it).

Níl deartháir ná deirfiúr (ar bith - optional, meaning "at all", just an intensifier really) agam.

Ar basically always lenites (just a few exceptions), so it should be ar Bhéarla. However, Irish tends to use the definite article with lots of nouns, languages included. So I would say ar an mBéarla (ar + an adds m to Béarla). Also, the proposition must be repeated in Irish (so use ar before each noun).

Is mian liom bheith i mo mhúinteoir scoile.

Rinne mé staidéar ar an mBéarla agus ar fhealsúnacht i UCD agus is mian liom a bheith i mo mhúinteoir bunscoile

Oh, ba mhian would actually be more correct. (I would like to be, because a mian is a wish, this is an aspiration).

I don't think it's very good Irish to say "lag sa something", I don't think it's an established idiom. THe second half of your sentence is a bit of mess really. I'd suggest:

Níl mo chuid Gaeilge ró-mhaith faoi láthair, mar sin, tá súil agam feabhas a chur uirthi (Gaeilge is feminine, so if you're referring specifically to your Irish, this is more correct) sna seachtainí le teacht.

My Irish isn't too good at the moment, as such, I wish to improve it in the weeks to come/next few weeks.

Hope this helps. Try keep your sentect structures as simple as possible; grammatically speaking it can get very messy very fast if you don't know what you're doing.

Gumbi wrote: »

Couple of points.

Rughadh mé i mBaile Átha Cliath agus táim i mo chónaí i nDúndroma

Nothing wrong with tá mé, but you used táim before it, better to have consistency than to mix dialectal tendencies. Oh, and you'll get away with Rugadh mé i... most of the time, but in Irish it's more natural to say Rugadh i...mé

Mixing aon and ar bith doesn't work in my opinion. Also, nó, which which or, becomes nor in the negative (technically this happens in English, too, but people generally don't adhere to it).

Níl deartháir ná deirfiúr (ar bith - optional, meaning "at all", just an intensifier really) agam.

Ar basically always lenites (just a few exceptions), so it should be ar Bhéarla. However, Irish tends to use the definite article with lots of nouns, languages included. So I would say ar an mBéarla (ar + an adds m to Béarla). Also, the proposition must be repeated in Irish (so use ar before each noun).

Is mian liom bheith i mo mhúinteoir scoile.

Rinne mé staidéar ar an mBéarla agus ar fhealsúnacht i UCD agus is mian liom a bheith i mo mhúinteoir bunscoile

Oh, ba mhian would actually be more correct. (I would like to be, because a mian is a wish, this is an aspiration).

I don't think it's very good Irish to say "lag sa something", I don't think it's an established idiom. THe second half of your sentence is a bit of mess really. I'd suggest:

Níl mo chuid Gaeilge ró-mhaith faoi láthair, mar sin, tá súil agam feabhas a chur uirthi (Gaeilge is feminine, so if you're referring specifically to your Irish, this is more correct) sna seachtainí le teacht.

My Irish isn't too good at the moment, as such, I wish to improve it in the weeks to come/next few weeks.

Hope this helps. Try keep your sentect structures as simple as possible; grammatically speaking it can get very messy very fast if you don't know what you're doing.

1. This should read RÓMHAITH.
2. LAG SA is an accepted way to express weakness or debility, mental and physical.
3. Sna seachtainí ATÁ le teacht - the verb needs to be included here. Generally, 'atá romhainn' is used, i.e., the preposition, for future events and past ones. i.e. an samhradh seo imithe tharainn; an samhradh seo chugainn, sna seachtainí atá romhainn etc.

hi Gumbi,

Yes, lag sa is quite common....bhí sé an-lag sa chorp ar deireadh srl. Quite commonly used. You can use 'chun' as well, but generally used for proficiency.

Beir bua!
S

Gumbi wrote: »

Rinne mé staidéar ar an mBéarla agus ar fhealsúnacht i UCD agus is mian liom a bheith i mo mhúinteoir bunscoile

Oh, ba mhian would actually be more correct. (I would like to be, because a mian is a wish, this is an aspiration).

Are you sure about this?
I can't really say I've heard "ba mhian" in this context. I'd certainly go for "is mian"
In the same context, I'd say "ba mhaith".