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Wimbledon 2013

  • 19-06-2013 12:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Seeing as we are only a week away now from the start of the Wimbledon think it is time to start a thread.

    The seedings for this have been released today:

    Mens top 5 are:

    1. Novak Djokovic
    2. Andy Murray
    3. Roger Federer
    4. David Ferrer
    5. Rafa Nadal.

    Going to be some interesting quarter finals in the men if all the seeds make it through. I am surprised they went with Murray as number 2 instead of Federer, considering Federer is defending champion.

    Anyways the top 5 womens are:

    1. Serena Williams
    2. Victoria Azarenka
    3. Maria Sharapova
    4. Agnieszka Radwanska
    5. Sara Errani.

    Only one winner of this unfortunately.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Floppybits wrote: »

    Anyways the top 5 womens are:

    1. Serena Williams
    2. Victoria Azarenka
    3. Maria Sharapova
    4. Agnieszka Radwanska
    5. Sara Errani.

    Only one winner of this unfortunately.

    I don't know, grass is a funny old surface, there are players that literally do nothing all year and then make a crazy run on grass. I feel though that if Serena's going to lose it has to be in one of the early rounds, once she makes the second week injuries are the only thing that will stop her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I know Rafa is world ranked 5, but seeded 5? Madness. Ferrer ahead of him due to his ranking position doesn't cut it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    So if Murray were to win he might have to go Rafa (QF) ----> Federer (SF) ----> Djokovic (F)? Ouch!! :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 109 ✭✭BV4


    walshb wrote: »
    I know Rafa is world ranked 5, but seeded 5? Madness. Ferrer ahead of him due to his ranking position doesn't cut it.

    Also based on last year's performance at Wimbledon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    RosyLily wrote: »
    So if Murray were to win he might have to go Rafa (QF) ----> Federer (SF) ----> Djokovic (F)? Ouch!! :eek:

    He may stay in bed for the next couple weeks if that's the case.:pac:


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    walshb wrote: »
    I know Rafa is world ranked 5, but seeded 5? Madness. Ferrer ahead of him due to his ranking position doesn't cut it.
    BV4 wrote: »
    Also based on last year's performance at Wimbledon.

    Exactly, based on ranking and last year, where Rafa lost in R2 and Ferrer was in the QF.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Draw is happening now....

    MEN

    Djokovic and Ferrer in one half. Murray and Federer in the other.

    Possible Nadal/Federer QF.

    Bottom half projected R16s: Nadal-Wawrinka, Almagro-Federer, Tsonga-Cilic, Tipsarevic-Murray.

    Top half projected R16s: Djokovic-Haas Gasquet-Berdych, Ferrer-Kohlschreiber Nishikori-del Potro.

    Hewitt vs Wawrinka the pick of R1 so far.

    WOMEN

    Serena and Aga in one half. Sharapova and Azarenka in the other.

    Projected QFs: Serena-Kerber, Aga Radwanska-Li, Errani-Sharapova, Kvitova-Azarenka.
    (I can't see Kvitova/Azarenka actually happening though)

    Laura Robson gets Kirilenko in R1, shame, I like them both.

    Watson vs Madison Keys, interesting one there too. Both British girls could be out in R1.

    Lisicki vs Schiavone in R1 too. Tough one, Lisicki loves the grass.

    Ooooh, Stevens vs Jamie Hampton in R1. Hampton has been brilliant on grass this year. Bye bye Sloane.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Exactly, based on ranking and last year, where Rafa lost in R2 and Ferrer was in the QF.

    It should not be just based on last year's performance. How about success in recent tournaments, head to heads recently? Maybe even overall performance at Wimbledon thru the recent years?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    walshb wrote: »
    It should not be just based on last year's performance. How about success in recent tournaments, head to heads recently? Maybe even overall performance at Wimbledon thru the recent years?

    There's a certain formula that Wimbledon use. I didn't design it. The fact that it's on grass means the rest of the years head to heads are kind of irrelevant.


  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭Lams


    Wow, tough draw for Rafa and Fed. Would love to see Fed destroy Rafa in straights as revenge for 2008. Can't see it happening now though, he's a mere 70% of his peak self now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    I think Wimbledon count the player's last two or three performances at the tournament. So Nadal's wins would have no bearing on his ranking this year. Strange system!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Draw is happening now....

    MEN

    Djokovic and Ferrer in one half. Murray and Federer in the other.

    Possible Nadal/Federer QF.

    Bottom half projected R16s: Nadal-Wawrinka, Almagro-Federer, Tsonga-Cilic, Tipsarevic-Murray.

    Top half projected R16s: Djokovic-Haas Gasquet-Berdych, Ferrer-Kohlschreiber Nishikori-del Potro.

    Hewitt vs Wawrinka the pick of R1 so far.

    WOMEN

    Serena and Aga in one half. Sharapova and Azarenka in the other.

    Projected QFs: Serena-Kerber, Aga Radwanska-Li, Errani-Sharapova, Kvitova-Azarenka.
    (I can't see Kvitova/Azarenka actually happening though)

    Laura Robson gets Kirilenko in R1, shame, I like them both.

    Watson vs Madison Keys, interesting one there too. Both British girls could be out in R1.

    Lisicki vs Schiavone in R1 too. Tough one, Lisicki loves the grass.

    Ooooh, Stevens vs Jamie Hampton in R1. Hampton has been brilliant on grass this year. Bye bye Sloane.

    I can definitely see Kvitova-Azarenka happening, I think Kvitova will probably find her form for Wimbledon. If she does, Azarenka could be in trouble. I'd love to see this match happening, it's been a long time since they played each other and so much has happened for both of them since.

    I'm not so sure about Jamie Hampton beating Sloane, Jamie will have played eight matches in the week coming in to Wimbledon! Surely that won't be of benefit to her? I'd love her to make a run though, I really like her game, and she'll be just outside the top 20 if she wins Eastbourne!

    One matchup I can't see happening is Errani-Sharapova in the quarters :p

    Djokovic pretty much has a bye to the final.

    Really glad that Delpo has managed to avoid one of the big four for his projected QF. If he manages to find some form then he could get to the SF, but that's a big if tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    walshb wrote: »
    It should not be just based on last year's performance. How about success in recent tournaments, head to heads recently? Maybe even overall performance at Wimbledon thru the recent years?
    100% of last year's grass court results, and 75% of the previous year's grass court results are given as a points bonus. It's not just that Ferrer got further than Nadal at last year's Wimbledon (that actually wouldn't have been enough), it's that Ferrer also won one of the warm-up grass court tournaments. He has earned his seeding, not just with other surface results, but with grass court results as well.


  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭Lams


    RosyLily wrote: »
    I think Wimbledon count the player's last two or three performances at the tournament. So Nadal's wins would have no bearing on his ranking this year. Strange system!

    How far back should the seeding system go, should Hewitt be a top seed since he is a former champion? I don't see any issue with the system at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Lams wrote: »
    How far back should the seeding system go, should Hewitt be a top seed since he is a former champion? I don't see any issue with the system at all.

    I don't have an issue with the system. I think it's good that Wimbledon organisers take into account the player's ranking and their performances on grass.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Most of the top players only play 2, at most, grass tournaments in the year. So it makes sense that they look at other years rather than looking at clay or hard courts, which play nothing like grass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    Anyone else excited for a Wozniacki-Vekic 2R?
    Vekic seems to be playing well (Birmingham F) and Wozniacki could be troubled by her big serve, especially on grass. I hope it's on a show court! :P


  • Site Banned Posts: 59 ✭✭Lams


    For anyone who is interested espn classic is showing the official film of Wimbledon 2005 and all the way up to 2009


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Oooooh S!>T!! Handbags at dawn!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    Maria vs Serena final.
    First ever double golden set final?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Perhaps a double golden set is a bit of a stretch :D
    But a double bagel perhaps? Who knows! It very nearly happened last Summer, and now Serena's got even more motivation


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    I love that Maria hit back and doesn't bow down to Serene, despite her dominance, but it's just going to get her murdered (more than normal) next time they meet. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    I agree TME. I like that Maria came out fighting. Most players would sit meekly and do nothing, purely because it's Serena. About time someone called her up! When they meet again, this is only gonna add more spice. I hope it angers Maria more and she's the one that does the murdering!

    If they meet in the Wimbledon final, watch out!!:)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    The video of Sharapova's comments make it sound a lot less bitchy than the reports did. She was sounding very mature and level headed about it all and then it was like she just couldn't resist getting a dig in at the end :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    I'd wanna get the dig in as well. She's just saying what the other female players are thinking imo!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    ^ Apparently Vika's press conference consisted of just 4 questions and when she was asked about Serena's comments she said she had no comment on them. If she had an issue with another player or needed clarification on what someone apparently said she'd go to them in person.

    Of course that's easy to say when you're not the one that's been slated.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Heather Watson is now having a go at the higher ranked players for being mean.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2346572/Heather-Watson-shunned-higher-ranked-players.html

    I think she's just commenting on the fact they're not very friendly, but I'm sure the tennis press will run with it and make a big deal.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Serena's presser not the bitch fest many were hoping for.

    Says she talked to Maria at the Wimbledon party the other night in an attempt to apologise. Regrets that the stuff she said was printed, says she's been spoiled by the professionalism of the tennis media, which is basically a dig at Rolling Stone magazine. Wouldn't comment on what Sharapova said yesterday, basically not talking about her own personal life at all.

    So, that's that. Seems to confirm the comments were about Maria and Grigor though. Although as far as I can make out she wasn't actually speaking to the journalist at the time, but he was there all day with her so kind of naive of her to think he wouldn't print everything.

    Anyway, seems she's learned her lesson. Between this and the Sloane Stephen's magazine interview I'd say it'll be a while before a tennis player does one of these free form interviews again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,868 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Lams wrote: »
    For anyone who is interested espn classic is showing the official film of Wimbledon 2005 and all the way up to 2009

    I watched the '09 film last night. Love them programs. Great for record keeping. Federer never served better than in that final against Roddick. Unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Tomorrow's schedule has been released. http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭jupiterjack


    Its Wimbledon time again & I am so looking forward to it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,797 ✭✭✭Shane St.


    Can't wait. Love the 2 weeks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Serena's presser not the bitch fest many were hoping for.

    Says she talked to Maria at the Wimbledon party the other night in an attempt to apologise. Regrets that the stuff she said was printed, says she's been spoiled by the professionalism of the tennis media, which is basically a dig at Rolling Stone magazine. Wouldn't comment on what Sharapova said yesterday, basically not talking about her own personal life at all.

    So, that's that. Seems to confirm the comments were about Maria and Grigor though. Although as far as I can make out she wasn't actually speaking to the journalist at the time, but he was there all day with her so kind of naive of her to think he wouldn't print everything.

    Anyway, seems she's learned her lesson. Between this and the Sloane Stephen's magazine interview I'd say it'll be a while before a tennis player does one of these free form interviews again.

    I watched the Murray programme last night on BBC and can understand why these press conferences are so bland when you see the abuse he got after his comments about the English footbal team were made in jest.

    Journalists are their own worst enemies here where they print so much crap that the players just dont say anything anymore in the press conferences.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Trying to watch it online, but having terrible problems with the BBC player stopping and starting. It's a pain in the ass to watch.

    As for the draw, Djokovic has it a bit easy.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Errani truly justifying her #5 seeding :p

    Disappointing that the BBC will only be showing two matches at a time on TV, when they used to have a selection of about 5 or 6 :(


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Floppybits wrote: »
    I watched the Murray programme last night on BBC and can understand why these press conferences are so bland when you see the abuse he got after his comments about the English footbal team were made in jest.

    Journalists are their own worst enemies here where they print so much crap that the players just don't say anything anymore in the press conferences.

    Exactly. They complain when they're not getting anything juicy from players then someone does or says something and the press blow it all out of proportion and crucify the player and then are surprised when they don't talk to them anymore.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Looks like Azarenkas Wimbledon is all over :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Looks like Azarenkas Wimbledon is all over :eek:

    What's happened? ?She won the first set 6-1 and is 1-0 up in the second. Is she injured?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Floppybits wrote: »
    What's happened? ?She won the first set 6-1 and is 1-0 up in the second. Is she injured?

    Fell to the ground, howling in pain and bawling her eyes out :eek:
    Though she seems better now, it's all up in the air if she'll be able to continue though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    That was a really bad fall. Azarenka's a trooper though. I hope she can come through this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Fell to the ground, howling in pain and bawling her eyes out :eek:
    Though she seems better now, it's all up in the air if she'll be able to continue though.

    An awlful lot of strapping. Cant see her lasting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    I dunno, Koehler is such a choker (JJ AO comes to mind) and Vika with an injury tends to become more aggressive. I still think Vika can win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Have the BBC made serious cutbacks to the Red Button service this year? I remember they used to show a ton of matches on there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Koehler should really be doing a bit better here given the circumstances.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,937 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Azarenka will come through today the rest of the tournament must be in doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    Azarenka will come through today the rest of the tournament must be in doubt.

    She's good at overplaying her injuries though. Anklerenka vs Radwanska, Backrenka vs Stephens. I think with the day off inbetween her matches she'll be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭afatbollix


    nocoverart wrote: »
    Have the BBC made serious cutbacks to the Red Button service this year? I remember they used to show a ton of matches on there.

    Yes only 1 official red button now. But they have bought an extra channel for red button for the couple of weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    How does Elena Baltacha still get Wimbledon Wild Cards? I counted 8 (including this year) from her wiki page. Her best performance was the 3rd round 11 years ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 482 ✭✭woopah92


    How does Elena Baltacha still get Wimbledon Wild Cards? I counted 8 (including this year) from her wiki page. Her best performance was the 3rd round 11 years ago.

    She won a 50K on grass a few weeks back, she made the 2r of Eastbourne last week and took Kirilenko (World #10) to three sets. This year, IMO she actually deserved one.


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