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What beer are we drinking this week? Episode 3

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,702 ✭✭✭donaghs


    When buying a mix of craft beers from off-licences recently, I think I've paid deposits on some, and then not have them accepted by the machine. I guess the lesson now is to keep or photograph the receipts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,042 ✭✭✭Guffy


    Can anyone suggest a reasonably priced substitute for Moretti?

    Used to drink a lot of Galway bay stuff but i find a bottle or two of Moretti is a lot nicer (imo). The price has jumped over the last year though so if anyone can suggest a reasonably priced alternative I'd appreciate it.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Its a fairly generic lager with very little to distinguish itself from others.

    Based on its return to availability and being quite cheap, maybe try Harp. Its reputation is unfounded. I'm not taking the piss with this suggestion.

    Otherwise, Aldi have a knock-off Italian lager with a name that probably sounds like Peroni. (Poretti, which I think they do sell, is an actual Italian brand, not a knock-off)



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Aldi's Rossini and Rheinbacher are both worth a try in the cheap-but-good lager stakes. Tesco's Manislav isn't the beer it used to be but is still decent for the price.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Moretti is now brewed in the UK, make of that what you will.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,860 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Celebrating a little bit tonight. Got invited to read at a Poetry Day event in County Limerick tomorrow, and I'm on the bill at an Irish language event for Cork World Book Festival on Saturday, and my new poetry collection is on its way to 2 more bookshops next week. Have to enjoy the little victories.

    Otterbank, from Muff, Co. Donegal: Just The One (a 3 year old, mixed fermentation amber ale, 7.1%) and Oíche Mhaith (a mixed fermentation blend of strong porters, 9.4%). Two lovely treats.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭antimatterx




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    That random bloke in the pub gave you a bum steer there. Where does he get it from?

    Moretti is brewed in Manchester and Madrí is split between Tadcaster and Burton on Trent.

    The BBC did a whole thing on Britain's (and Ireland's) fake continental lagers a couple of years ago:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63901215



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Good to see that Budvar are determined not to "do a Staropramen"

    There's a very discernable taste difference between the 500mL bottles (Prague) and the 660mL bottles (Some industrial estate, UK), and not in a good way.

    They then have the cheek to put "Prague" prominently on the label of the UK-brewed muck.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Budvar's UK PR people have turned a problem into a selling point. There's no question of anyone other than the Czech state owning the company because any buyer would get a lawsuit from AB InBev's sharp and well-paid lawyers as part of the deal. You need sovereign wealth to hold off that kind of threat.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Krombacher or warsteiner.

    Estrella galicia is decent.

    As long as the brits dont start brewing it.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Non zero chance of Estella Galicia being made in Carlow if it got big here. They own a substantial but non controlling stake of Carlow Brewing aka O'Haras



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Same for Warsteiner and Rye River.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I thought all the legal issues had been thrashed out years ago?

    But imagine ripping off a trademark and then suing the people you ripped it off from, bloody cheek!

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Nope, it's still a live issue, just in a state of possibly permanent stalemate.

    Budweiser beer started in St Louis in 1876. The Budvar brewery opened in 1895. Tell me again who's ripping off who's trademark? 😜



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,914 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Didn't know that.

    I think we can be safe in the assumption the German premium lagers will always be imported from source.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The city of Budweis was around a lot longer than that, and no doubt was brewing beer longer than that too… (searches the fount of all knowledge)

    Beer has been brewed in Budweis, Bohemia (now České Budějovice, Czech Republic) since it was founded in 1265.

    Imagine if some American shower started globally marketing "Dubliner" beer with no connection whatsoever to this country 😠

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Beck's (I wouldn't call it premium though!) has a brewery in the US, so the precedent for non-German production of a major German brand is there

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    "Premium" can mean different things to different people/marketing departments though.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Indeed. The city's municipal brewery was founded in 1795 and has been selling "Budweiser Bier" since 1802. It's still going as well. It seems like that one has the truest claim to the Budweiser beer name, and certainly the oldest. Who owns the brewery today? AB InBev, of course.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Oliver Hughes used to say "premium" beer means "advertised on television".



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Ordered a mix of beers from Craft Central for the first time in a good while. Saw that Wicklow Wolf had a limited edition sour so got some. I didn't realise it was a fruited sour (actually has blueberry and raspberry in it). Looks more like a mixed fruit cider. It's nice though, different.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's the problem with 440s right there. A pint glass is just too big, a half pint glass is too small.

    First world problems…

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    A pint glass is only too big if you have an irrational need for it to be filled to the brim. 440ml fits in a pint glass perfectly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In a world where people will pay twice as much to get a slightly better looking pint of Guinness, I think my concerns are valid 😁

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    IKEA have you covered

    https://www.ikea.com/ie/en/p/ikea-365-glass-clear-glass-60279711/

    450ml.

    US Customary pint glasses are also pretty close, 473ml.

    However, in the picture you're quoting I'd be fairly certain that's a 2/3rd pint glass (~380ml) and not all the can poured in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 34,222 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The glass in the picture has half pint printed on it.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Sigma101


    Half price in posh Dunnes in Cork at €1.75 this evening. Grand for the price. Sorry I didn't pick up a few more. They must be shifting beers with no Re-turn logo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭adocholiday


    Another one of my Craft Central selections. Haven't seen an Imperial IPA before so worth a shot. I generally like the Sierra Nevada range, always a solid choice but this one is a bit too strong. At 9.5% the beer loses it's flavour to the alcohol, reminded me of younger days drinking Bavaria 8.6 to get smashed as cheaply as possible! Although this is much better than that it should be said.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,808 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    "Imperial IPA" and double IPA are the same thing. The Americans use both terms interchangeably.



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