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What beer are we drinking this week? Episode 3

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    #7382
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121966196#Comment_121966196

    Old design might not have looked good on 440, not that I think the new design looks great on 440 either…

    Who's left doing 330 cans now? Wicklow Brewing certainly did last time I got some, Rye River do (for some lines and some own-brand lines), Galway Bay are mostly 330.



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    #7383
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Whiplash have their core range in 330mls, White Hag too.



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    #7384
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Im a non drinker

    Love 00 lager

    On draught especially,but hard enough to find in Cork on a regular basis,

    I spent 5 hours drinking Lucozade and water and tea in a pub in Cork on Easter Sun,( Derry / Dub match,ballads after the Easter march- I wouldn't have stayed otherwise)

    Pub had run out and awaiting draught Heineken 00 to arrive for 5 weeks,

    Publicans need to cater for an ever growing market



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    #7385
    adaminho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭adaminho


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121966351#Comment_121966351

    I have little Fawn in stock in 440ml but the serpent in 330ml.



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    #7386
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My main White Hag purchase is Bran & Sceolan which is 440, so I forgot the core is 330



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    #7387
    L1011
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121966358#Comment_121966358

    I've seen some range of other 0.0 lagers on the market recently - Bitburger (the lager you get on draught on Deutsche Bahn) 0.0 for instance as well as Carlsberg, Estrella and others - they could certainly get a tap of something else in if Heineken are leaving them dry that long.



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    #7388
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Thank you,never heard of bitburger,Estrella was nice when I used drink( Estrella dam from memory)

    But that was 11/ 12 years ago, maybe it's the same family, whatever the more draught variety the better,

    I like the taste but the hangovers once or twice a week were murder



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    #7389
    flended12
    Registered Users Posts: 344 ✭✭flended12


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121966511#Comment_121966511

    Apart from a bog ale White hag done years back and it was acquired taste, Bran & Sceolan is a cracking beer and my go too from WH



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    #7390
    L1011
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121966676#Comment_121966676

    The Estrella 0 I've seen is Estrella Galicia from Galicia - Estrella Damn is a different product from Barcelona.

    They're quite similar though, in alcoholic versions at least.



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    #7391
    Twee.
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    I tried the Estrella 0 and it was rancid 😅 Maybe it's a seldom used line in that particular pub. Either way, put me right off that beer and off ordering anything other than a very-popular-beer in that pub!



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    #7392
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 16,823 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I'd be wary of draught n/a beer unless there is a very consistent flow. These beers don't have to benefit of c. 5% alcohol to help preserve them.



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    #7393
    corks finest
    Registered Users Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Lovely taste from memory



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    #7394
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Sudden flurry of new beers in Bradley's, including Verdant from the UK. Perhaps breweries / importers are adapting quicker than we expected?



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    #7395
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Or just ignoring the rules. That's how it usually works.

    My beer blog | The Twitter | My other beer blog



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    #7396
    L1011
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 67,941 Mod ✭✭✭✭L1011


    My local RVM shows the registered name of each item; and I've noticed that a special from an Irish brewery scanned as "[Brewery Name] IPA" - it was a porter. Wonder if we're going to see some specials having the same barcode and price. Which will drive retailers demented, but avoid paying registration fees for new products.



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    #7397
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    I noticed the same. I think it was Galway Bay Obsidian that flashed up as an IPA. I don't see how it would bother the retailers: surely the SKU name on the till system is different from the name entered on the Re-Turn system, though they have a barcode in common?

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    #7398
    L1011
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121974922#Comment_121974922

    If they are using the same barcode on more than one product it'll cause stock control hell.

    If its just a mistake in registering the name with Re-Turn and the barcode is product unique, no issue at all.

    Come to think of it, registering was free before a certain date so it is also possible that a load of future barcodes were registered back then with no idea what the beer would be.



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    #7399
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    My guess is they registered the barcode with Re-Turn before they knew which beer it would be assigned to.

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    #7400
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    I've bought a few imports recently, and the machines at my local supervalu won't accept them.

    snip

    Mod: Let's not discuss ways of defrauding the system.

    Post edited by irish_goat on


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    #7401
    Twee.
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 9,721 Mod ✭✭✭✭Twee.


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121974947#Comment_121974947

    This is most likely IMO. Re-Turn threatened that it products need to registered 6 weeks before market placement so folks might have rushed to register barcodes, or registered a load just to have a bank to pull from. In reality it's taking less than 10 working days at the moment.

    If you produce up to 749000 cans a year, there is no cost to register new products, just a flat €500 fee a year. 750000-1499999 it's €1000 flat per year. So, no incentive to pre register to save money.



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    #7402
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121976798#Comment_121976798

    Understood. But it's not defrauding the system. I was charged the deposit at point of purchase. I'm just ensuring I get my money back. I shouldn't have to bring my empty cans home again, and put them in the green bin, because the system has flaws.



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    #7403
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    What happens when you put the barcode in here?

    https://re-turn.ie/consumer/#barcodeChecker

    If you've been charged a deposit for a non-refundable product then that's something you're going to have to take up with the retailer who sold it to you.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7404
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121982000#Comment_121982000

    I rarely use the barcode checker, but I'll have a look and see what it says for the items.

    The retailer charged the deposit, which they will hand over, so it's not like I'm claiming a return on something the deposit hasn't been paid on.

    For people like me, who already recycles, the scheme takes up extra time in my life. I'm not going to bother returning to the point of purchase to take it up with them.



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    #7405
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No point whinging about it on here if you're not bothered to do something about it.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7406
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121983261#Comment_121983261

    I did something about it. You'll see my original post was edited by a moderator, as I was accused of defrauding the system.

    I just made sure I got the deposit I paid, at the retailer, returned to me at the RVM.

    I took a simple step to have my deposit returned, at the return vending machine. As I said, I'm not going to waste time going back to retailer. And on principle, I'm not going to let the system keep the deposit I've paid at point of purchase.



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    #7407
    irish_goat
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,776 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Didn't realise you get charged the deposit regardless of whether or not the product is registered/has the return logo. Can't blame you for getting your money back.

    We'll still just err on the side of caution when it comes to discussing how to trick the machines.



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    #7408
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121982000#Comment_121982000

    Here you go. To make matters worse, it's says 15c on the shelf, but the receipt says 25c.

    And to get back on topic here, the Verdant dipa is really nice, but totally not worth that price.

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    #7409
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    @irish_goat Non-registered products are not supposed to be charged the deposit but some retailers feck things up (Supervalu I'm looking at you)

    There are few non-logoed products left at this stage.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7410
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,218 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    @Citizen Six That's a total SNAFU by the retailer but they won't rectify the error if nobody complains.

    €8.49 for one can of beer though, that's dearer than Pointy Shoes!

    …and €9.39 is dearer again!

    Hope they were nice. I wouldn't be too worried about 15 or 25c if paying that much per can though.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #7411
    Citizen Six
    Registered Users Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Citizen Six


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121986617#Comment_121986617

    BA Narwal is a lot better than recent Pointy Shoes, which has disappointed me for the past few years. I prefer to buy Irish, but like to taste everything. And Wicklow Wolf is one on the most consistent, and quality brewers we have in Ireland. As for the one from Verdant, it is pretty expensive, but I wanted to try it, as I'm a big fan of them But the value just isn't there. I wouldn't buy it again.

    With the 15 vs 25 cent thing, for me, it's about the principle. I've always recycled, so this new system is an imposition. But I still take part.

    Only today though, did I realise the wastage where I work. I passed a bunch of cans and bottles, with the logo, which are discarded. And they are just bagged up with the regular trash and going to landfill.



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