The Dominance of Dublin GAA *Mod warning post#1*

You're just repeating stuff back at me now again, it's childish as I said.

But no, I engage with facts thoroughly- that's why I have the opinions I do. Think of it, your whole argument is based on the premise that Dublin's advantages in population, funding, playing at home make no difference- do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?

And once again you're lying about how unfair advantages have been detailed for anyone except Dublin- no team other than Dublin has unfair advantages so they cannot be detailed. Please stop the incessant lying, it was kind of funny to begin with but is now just tiresome.

Dublin aren't cheating at all, where have I said that? It's not even Dublin's fault that the GAA is in this current predicament, it is the GAA's. Reforms to the GAA don't have to end with the splitting of Dublin but as it is clearly the most beneficial thing the GAA can do to help all counties, it should be done first. Any other reforms, without this being done first are doomed to failure. So splitting Dublin is a solution that would improve the game for all counties.

Exactly, there is just a complete reluctance to deal with the issues. Ostriches with their heads in the sand come to mind. Just a complete denial in the fact of overwhelming evidence that Dublin alone are unfairly advantaged. I have said repeatedly that one of the benefits to a split of Dublin within Dublin would be that if Dublin divisional sides won All-Irelands, they would now come fairly, unlike at present. You can see the unfair titles do gnaw at the Dublin supporters, as they cannot take any pride in them. Which is why they come in here arguing vehemently that there was no unfairness at all, as that sense of guilt and empty feeling that comes from victories enabled by the GAA gnaws away at them.

I assure you Dublin take plenty of pride in all the titles they’ve won. Plenty of pride because they were won fairly through hard work, dedication and sacrifice .

tell me though- you mention above about posters arguing vehemently that there was no unfairness at all. Isn’t that precisely what you’ve been doing when anyone raises your own team? Is it that you can’t take any pride in them? Does it gnaw away at you every day?

they’re just good!

That’s it? That’s the best the split Dublin brigade have to offer?

hundreds of pages of a thread at this stage . We’ve had dodging and weaving from various posters (not yourself to be fair) every time the hundred plus years of unfairness in how Gaelic football is run and how certain teams have over that time benefitted hugely and unfairly from that. We’ve had endless examples being dismissed without any reasonable counter arguments being made. We’ve had innovative proposals that would benefit all counties dismissed out of hand because they’re not “split Dublin”

and now the split Dublin camp rock up to finally explain why it’s ok that other counties would continue to benefit from the inherent unfairness of the current system post their Dublin split

and the reason is “they’re just good”

Wow!

Undoubtedly there was hard work, dedication and sacrifice. Some incredible players too. It doesn't mean they came fairly though, so that's where the lack of pride comes from.

Any county outside of Dublin can take pride in their victories though. The issue with Dublin "supporters" (real supporters would want Dublin to be split but that's a separate conversation) coming on and arguing vehemently against Dublin having unfair advantages, day in, day out is this. If they had confidence, pride and security in their victories, they wouldn't feel the need to do that. It'd be water off a duck's back as the argument could just be dismissed. But instead they feel the need to engage on it incessantly, despite clearly and repeatedly losing the argument. It's quite odd.

You realise "they're just good!" is your argument. Let's ignore the population advantage. Let's ignore the funding from the GAA, the government and sponsors. Let's ignore playing all finals and semi-finals at home. It's ridiculous even on the face of it, which is probably why some Dublin supporters try to introduce countless irrelevant red herrings to try and divert the debate from its purpose of discussion (stated in the title i.e., "The dominance of Dublin GAA").

We are open to other proposals. While reform should start with splitting Dublin, as it is the single most beneficial thing the GAA can do to help all counties, it shouldn't end there. There are lots of areas of agreement- scrapping provincials, voluntary amalgamation, equalising funding etc. But without a split of Dublin, none of those measures will make much of an impact.

You’re “ open to other proposals”. -Yet your not open to anything that might impact your own team’s advantages

strange that

or maybe not so strange looking at how you argue on this thread

Kerry have won a ridiculous 82 Munster titles and 38 All Ireland titles total domination , stop the anti Dublin nonsense and propose a solution to deal with all the problems in the GAA . What County are you from Charles ?

Would it possibly be a County that would benefit from Dublin being split i wonder ?🙄

The Kerry poster hid this for years lol…….

In your opinion Kerry does not need to be split , i disagree Kerry have totally dominated Munster for over a century , which has helped them win 38 All irelands with unfair advantages , please make an argument about how to deal with All the issues ,plenty of posters cared where he was from as it showed he wants Dublin split to help Kerry , i also care where your from as it would appear you have a hidden agenda /interest in splitting Dublin only , and have zero interest in helping the weaker Counties and indeed having a fairer system for all Counties .

I am worried though. Think of the Dublin players- I want them to have them to have the option of winning an All-Ireland fairly. They can't achieve this dream without being split.

It's not actually relevant where he's from as arguments stand on their own merits. But in this case you already know the answer- yes, he is from a county that would benefit from Dublin being split, as all counties benefit! So if he is from Dublin or Leitrim or any one in between, he is from a county that benefits from Dublin being split.

You are not being serious. Kerry is smaller in population than Cork or Limerick, no rational person could imply that they have a population advantage.

You are right in the sense that the momentum for a split is just not there at the moment. It was building in 2019-20, there was a lot of attention to Dublin's unfair advantages both in general discussions but also discussions on the Sunday Game, Prime Time etc. but it has died off for now. Doesn't mean it shouldn't happen though, for the good of the game.

Dont think it ever had momentum, and there is no way it can be said to be for 'the good of the game'. It can be for the good of attendances for a handful of championship matches.

My own view fwiw is that the All Ireland championships is a small part of what the GAA is about, the game is absolutely thriving at club level - far from the crisis that some punters would have us believe.