Deposit return scheme (recycling)

yeah its an interesting discussion, and i love large scale things like this (and hypotheticals). But ultimately it would only make re-turn increase the deposit on recyclables. Further punishing people for not meeting their goals. We must keep in mind why this scheme even exists to begin with. And thus gave birth to us being charged with a deposit in the first place.

Giving re-turn lots of money from deposits in exchange for them not meeting their targets is still a win for them with the money gained, which they could then keep or build a recycling plant or do whatever with. They would see the large gain of money as a monetary success. They succeed if they reach money goals, OR if they reach target recycling stat percentage number goals.

i'm not proposing anything myself/anyone to drive miles to collect anything. was just throwing the idea out there, as it is a good idea for anyone that does'nt have to travel much distance, as well as something that helps those who rely on getting stuff delivered. it seems only fair for others stuck indoors to atleast have some alternative that results in getting a cut of the action and not being stuck with cans and bottles.

Honestly i'm not trying to sort the problem for the schemes sake of things as i couldnt care less if re-turn reach their target goals or not. i just want more power to the people and for some fairness to be done, while at the same time someone somewhere being able to earn a little bit of extra money from it, as well as the person stuck at home being able to get a little something back for their cans/bottles.

What are the ground rules in this election prediction game ?

If you are going to claim every vote for non government candidates as a success for your "campaign" I might as well give up now.

To make it interesting what percentage of voters do you expect to base their voting preference on whether they approve of Re-turn?

The thing is they never did sort our green bin for cans and bottles to begin with, instead they just sold off recyclables to other countries to sort through, or else incinerated the rest and dump in landfill. This is really what got us into this re-turn mess to begin with (recycle bin companies not actually recycling any of our stuff at all, and then ireland having no proper recycling stats to show the EU when questioned about it and caught with our pants down) and thus re-turn and the drs scheme in ireland was born

Economies of scale will probably dictate that it would be no longer profitable.

Also they will lose their subsidy. Net effect of that is everyone's costs will go up.

Probably cheaper and more environmental to replace your "green bin" with a black burning barrel at this stage.

Cut out the theatre.

aww why not? i would appreciate it if you kept your cans in good condition and send them to me with anpost via registered express delivery and insured, so that way i can recycle them for you at no additional cost. Rather than crushing them.

But i'll be keeping the deposits for all my trouble.

i'll even sign the package "boards bottler" when it arrives!

Mine go in the black bin now, they used to go in the green bin. I tried to comply with the scheme but 75% of the bag of cans I brought were rejected by barcode. I'll give it a try again in a few months but for now they can go fook themselves with their extra tax.

They don't need the logo to be accepted as returns.

It may be true. The barcode is key not the logo.

If you put the barcode in here it will give you an idea on whether it will be accepted:

https://re-turn.shanehastings.ie/

this one also good: https://re-turn.ie/consumer/#barcodeChecker activates camera on phone pretty quick

But theres still no guarantee they will be accepted. It's still hit and miss.

Took some stuff to the shops. God what a grinding PITA this nonsense is. I'm actually eager for the incumbent party canvasers to darken my door step prior the next election, so I can vent my displeasure on not just this, but the rest of the enviro green crap.

No, but that was not what was asked.

Beer?

Likely been answered already. But I tried returning some cans and bottles yesterday at Aldi Belgard. Some independent beers not accepted, grand. Don't recall if I was charged deposit. Likely not.

However, I got credit back and it has on the receipt only redeemable in this store. Why can the deposits not be used in each store: Aldi voucher, in all their stores. Dunnes, all their stores?

Complete farce. Went up to our local machine for the 3rd time now yesterday only for it to be out of service the last 2 times. The first time it didn't accept half of my empties. Just came home and put them into the green bin im not arsed anymore i've better things to be doing.