Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Genuinely interested, do you have a source for that stat?

One of the reports is here, people better than me on here have gone through the numbers to figure out the %'s:

Vaccination status of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Ireland Week 46.pdf (hpsc.ie)

(basically doing a diff between reports to get up to date figures). Other than that, it's usually tweets from officials, other countries see similar data and present it better (basically the lower vaccinated % the more beds the unvaccinated take up). Austria and Netherlands are 2 that come to mind.

And this is those who can be vaccinated but didn't, the people who can't be vaccinated would be a rounding difference within 1% in any of the figures.

I guess we might have to agree on house party definition. I used to go to them all the time. They were brilliant. Crazy nights. What my social circles do now are very different ha. Anecdotal obviously.

I suggest we have been "post pandemic" since mid 2020.

However even after Covid-19 had been laid bare before us,and it's methodology better understood,our requirement for a variety of "Emergency Legislation" based restrictions apparently Increased ?

The World has had a refresher course in Virus conduct,and in the protective measures against them,which when all is said and done,has been the same for almost 2 centuries.

What IS different,this time round,is the immediacy and incidious nature of the Worl Wide Web and its many Social Media outlets,all providing new found proof of how to control and direct entire Social Groupings to a common end.

The "Public Health Emergency" is long past....the other "Emergencies" remain,unaddressed and largely unnoticed until it becomes permitted to direct the public gaze towards them.....😨

What I find amazing is we have 94% of the eligible population who took the vacine.

You would imagine a few % of the 6 % is took up from people who are advised against taking it by doctors and pregnant woman.

Then you have foriegners and from my personal experience of who I know didnt take the vaccine, paranoid or not intelligent people who I would say are very unlikely to be on boards.

Yet a handful of posters spend the majority of their posts calling anyone here anti vaxers for any time they post anything negative about the vaccine.

Boards is a strange place at times.

This time next year Varadkar will be back in the driver's seat. That's Martin's "exit strategy". Keep kicking the can down the road until its Varadkar's problem again.

Ah no. Definitely only there because of covid.

How come these “experts” aren’t called conspiracy theory loonies?

It's also down to regular hospital beds, not just ICU, we're all restricted, the extra restrictions on the unvaccinated is due to them taking up a disproportionate amount of COVID hospital capacity regardless of which category TimeLadsPlease has them in.

Also, take up of the vaccine among those with underlying conditions has been very high so it's likely that the conditions aren't that severe among the unvaccinated hospitalised.

I only get the numbers from here, people complain they use April numbers as they should be more up to date. You can't blame the unvaxxed for the reduction in bed spaces we currently have due to gross mismanagement by our current and previous governments. We had more bed spaces in the 80s but now we have less but our population has grown 1m ? Overfunded and poorly managed HSE has us were we are.

20b a year with the amount of staff per population compared to any other EU state is horrific.

Whose They?

Most if not all figures have been recent, as in the last week or currently. People who don't want to believe the figures assume the figures are since April, but they get called out with the most recent figures.

Yes the HSE is run badly, yes we don't get value for money etc.... nobody will argue with that.

That's not going to be changed overnight or during a pandemic, it seems like a scapegoat lately.

It's what we have at the moment and pointing out it's failings won't end the pandemic any sooner.

1 word Florida crusing it without any restrictions? this must be very upsetting to the covid faithful?