Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Good old Fintan the liberal! (Small ‘l’)

He has been the biggest cheerleader and supporter of right wing homophobic and sectarian unionism of them all and can’t even see it he’s so far up his own .......

The latest ‘liberal’ manta is the ‘need’ to vaccinate Africa, ‘we’ must get Africans vaccinated! You see we’re white and know better.

Had the same experience myself. I suffer from sinus and chest infections. Rang the Dr to see him and get the usual prescription. Wouldn't see me unless I had a negative pcr test but still gave me a prescription and charged me for it. Still went for the pcr test and was negative finally got in to see the Dr after 2 weeks. Got a battery of tests and x-rays to see if there is an underlying cause. Anyway the Dr asks did I have covid at any time said not that I know off and did I have symptoms said in the summer I had symptoms but thought it was hay fever took an anti histamine going to bed and was fine the next day. Now I am on another course of antibiotics and steroids another xray in a months time.

I wonder is it starting to sink into Michael Martins slowpoke brain that the advisory group he relies upon have been wrong at every single stage of this pandemic.

He has been basing his decisions and playing god with peoples lives, and its all based on advice and models from people who do not know what they are doing.

I hope that keeps him awake at night, because it should. The shame is that even if he realises it now most of the damage has already been done.

Public health measures are part of the "woke" agenda now? Blo*dy hell, I thought they were in the "keep people from dying" agenda. Do you need a safe space to post that from? Even trumpy got vaccinated, is he woke too? How far down the rabbit hole have some people gone in denying the reality around them.

SARS-COV2 is not part of any woke agenda or virtue signaling or whatever. If you're posting misinformation and being labeled a conspiracy theorist by multiple people because of it, it's not everybody else that's wrong.

Ah get way outta that. It is part of it, those clowns going around posting pictures of them with their 'I did my bit and got vaccinated' badges as if they were some sort of hero. Nothing but virtue signalling twats. Look we all know where you stand and that's fine but don't come on here insulting everyone who disagrees with you. Lots of us can see the restrictions and covid for what they are and because you don't like it you think you have some higher moral authority to lecture us. Get down off your high horse there tonto.

What are they?

You're saying they're part of the woke agenda and people are virtue signaling during a once in a century pandemic, you really need to examine where you're getting your information from.

The vaccines received massive amounts of money from the most non-liberal political parties that have existed for a long while (GOP & Conservatives) you can't call any of it woke as much as you might try, you're the one trying to stay in the safe space here. I'm happy to take and respond to criticism but I'll always try and back it up with evidence and data rather than "feelings" as seems to be happening more and more from the COVID outrage posters.

At a worldwide level across multiple countries all to save the HSE? I guess Tony does have a lot of power.

At least everyone knows where you're posting from 😉 (enjoy the safe space).

In a health service that have made no changes to capacity in the 2 years or managing this. That just proves my point the restrictions are there to protect to woefully inept healthservice and that is not the fault of those on the frontlines but the fault of government and mismanagement

Genuinely interested, do you have a source for that stat?

One of the reports is here, people better than me on here have gone through the numbers to figure out the %'s:

Vaccination status of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Ireland Week 46.pdf (hpsc.ie)

(basically doing a diff between reports to get up to date figures). Other than that, it's usually tweets from officials, other countries see similar data and present it better (basically the lower vaccinated % the more beds the unvaccinated take up). Austria and Netherlands are 2 that come to mind.

And this is those who can be vaccinated but didn't, the people who can't be vaccinated would be a rounding difference within 1% in any of the figures.

I suggest we have been "post pandemic" since mid 2020.

However even after Covid-19 had been laid bare before us,and it's methodology better understood,our requirement for a variety of "Emergency Legislation" based restrictions apparently Increased ?

The World has had a refresher course in Virus conduct,and in the protective measures against them,which when all is said and done,has been the same for almost 2 centuries.

What IS different,this time round,is the immediacy and incidious nature of the Worl Wide Web and its many Social Media outlets,all providing new found proof of how to control and direct entire Social Groupings to a common end.

The "Public Health Emergency" is long past....the other "Emergencies" remain,unaddressed and largely unnoticed until it becomes permitted to direct the public gaze towards them.....😨

What I find amazing is we have 94% of the eligible population who took the vacine.

You would imagine a few % of the 6 % is took up from people who are advised against taking it by doctors and pregnant woman.

Then you have foriegners and from my personal experience of who I know didnt take the vaccine, paranoid or not intelligent people who I would say are very unlikely to be on boards.

Yet a handful of posters spend the majority of their posts calling anyone here anti vaxers for any time they post anything negative about the vaccine.

Boards is a strange place at times.

Ah no. Definitely only there because of covid.

How come these “experts” aren’t called conspiracy theory loonies?

It's also down to regular hospital beds, not just ICU, we're all restricted, the extra restrictions on the unvaccinated is due to them taking up a disproportionate amount of COVID hospital capacity regardless of which category TimeLadsPlease has them in.

Also, take up of the vaccine among those with underlying conditions has been very high so it's likely that the conditions aren't that severe among the unvaccinated hospitalised.

I only get the numbers from here, people complain they use April numbers as they should be more up to date. You can't blame the unvaxxed for the reduction in bed spaces we currently have due to gross mismanagement by our current and previous governments. We had more bed spaces in the 80s but now we have less but our population has grown 1m ? Overfunded and poorly managed HSE has us were we are.

20b a year with the amount of staff per population compared to any other EU state is horrific.