Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317893#Comment_118317893

I was of the impression that they were going to administer 1.5m boosters between now and Christmas, ie over 100,000 a day... If what you say is true that's far less impressive.

The UK have 13 times our population so 1m daily jabs there is the equivalent of about 77,000 jabs a day here or 1m in the next 12 days

But then again this government only ever rush to close sh1t down and restrict their people, when it's something like vaccines, rapid tests or school contact tracing there's a needless wait

hamburgham

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118316886#Comment_118316886

Last January was just like every other January I can remember, patients bursting out of the hospitals because they essentially close for two weeks over Christmas so everything backs up. Not a chance in hell though NIAC will actually address this. Much easier to essentially ruin thousands of businesses.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317958#Comment_118317958

I'm lost as to how that relates to NIAC, they just approve and issue guidelines for vaccines.

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317941#Comment_118317941

The quote is:

"The HSE has said it expects 1.5m booster vaccines in total to be administered by Christmas."

To me that says 1.5m total by christmas, if it was 2.7m by christmas I am sure they would have said that.

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318001#Comment_118318001

Yep that quote suggests you're right, our health service is truly in no rush

Red Silurian

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317990#Comment_118317990

I think he meant NPHET, there's been a lot of talk about NIAC the last few days so understandable confusion

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317958#Comment_118317958

NIAC? What exactly do you want them to address?

Penfailed

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318054#Comment_118318054

Oh. Maybe that's it.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118316886#Comment_118316886

Everything is about last Christmas and it was the last time that the government made any important decision, independent of NPHET and one that turned out to be a disaster.

ShadowTech

The Irish Times this morning reporting that NPHET is expected to recommend yet more restrictions on Thursday. People queuing for hours to get boosted, large numbers of people reducing contacts (e.g. cancelled Christmas parties, etc.), hospitality functioning under restricted hours of closed and still more restrictions on the horizon! I guess it’s obvious now that even if the government doesn’t use the word “lockdown” that’s what we’ll have in practice if not in name by the time all is said and done.

Richard Hillman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318454#Comment_118318454

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/hse-to-redeploy-staff-to-accelerate-covid-booster-rollout-nphet-call-for-new-restrictions-expected-1.4754534

Hospitality closing times is the first on the list. Tony ain't giving up on this one.

M_Murphy57

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318454#Comment_118318454

Introducing travel restrictions on top of already bringing in negative tests for vaccinated people is unbelievable. Once again we have to be the leader in "treat your population like gormless idiots".

Hospitality curbs on top after we already introduced some and cabinet were briefed this week about 25000 businesses about to go to the wall, mostly hospitality shows FF don't give a **** about the economy once MM isn't forced to make a hard decision.

None of these restrictions worked in the past, they just cost us jobs and deferred the inevitable. Have we still no other tools in our armour than "ban fun"?

titan18

Ya, not much else they can really do bar closing things really, which isn't even close to being justified. Home visit regulations are unenforceable and cancelling travel at this stage will piss a lot of people.

facehugger99

The last 21months have seen the most expensive arse-covering exercise in the history of the state.

10's of billions pissed away to protect our extremely well-remunerated 'leaders' from having to make any decisions or take any responsibility.

We will all be paying for this for decades to come.

Russman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318608#Comment_118318608

Do you just mean decisions you agree with ? I would have thought shutting down the economy a few times wasn't an easy decision for politicians who depend on the public to elect them.

PicardWithHair

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118317031#Comment_118317031

Are you serious ?

The vaccines don't work on new variants, we see that with the chaos around us ...

oh wait but the booster will work yeah ? this is the one ? or maybe the 4th one will really finish it off..

Richard Hillman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318608#Comment_118318608

Looks like it's a whole load of leaving it for the next generation to pay for.

My generation got absolutely shafted by people who are over 50 with their pipe dreams and debt. The very people we are protecting by not going back to normal. Now that generation proceeds to shaft the generation after mine.

Never has a generation shafted so many people. These are the same folks that will amplify the pro-restriction media with TV/Radio ratings and newspapers buys. The same people who appear on polls to say they are pro-restriction.

I am intent that my generation breaks this chain and doesn't leave a clusterfuck of debt for the next in line.

The over 50-60s owe us for paying their debt and keeping them alive during this.

JDxtra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318454#Comment_118318454

The Irish Times are a disgrace. They should not put a headline like that on the front page claiming it came from "sources". This close to Christmas when we're already doing very well as a nation and enduring a level of restrictions.

Usual fear inducing tripe they've been spouting out now for too long. Newspapers and journalists are literally falling over themselves to bring us bad news and beat down any sense of positivity.

Print and broadcast media in general are an integral part of this cycle of covid doom.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318780#Comment_118318780

If thursday comes around and what they say is true, then they absolutely should have printed it.

If it turns out to be untrue, I agree with you.

I would be under the impression that it is sadly true though.

SaoPaulo41

Taoiseach was just asked any plans for restrictions, he said currently no,but he awaits nepht advise ,nepht meet on Thursday. So technically he isn't lying as not planning today but come Thursday there will be. Irish times also quoting sources, wasn't all of this meant to stop?

Media softening us up for more restrictions, so come Thursday we will just accept it

ShadowTech

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318780#Comment_118318780

I believe they’re receiving leaks, either from someone in Government or someone in NPHET. Honestly, after almost two years of this the pattern is clear for all to see. Just before NPHET makes a recommendation, that the government has already decided to implement, which will dramatically lower our already fcuked up quality of life the newspapers start citing anonymous sources (i.e. purposeful leaks) to soften up the population and to get people to think that these restrictions were inevitable rather than a decision made by Government. Its transparent. Bottom line, if we want to enjoy any aspect of public life we’d better party up in the next few days because it’s looking a lot like lockdown / definitely not calling it a lockdown.

JDxtra

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318806#Comment_118318806

The correct flow should be…

NPHET ➡ Government ➡ Public

Not…

NPHET ➡ Reporter ➡ Public

The current flow is unhelpful, undermines the government and causes unnecessary concern. Just look at what this approach did to the hospitality business – it absolutely decimated it in advance of any actual advice being sanctioned!

SaoPaulo41

Claire Bryne radio show now ,she is in over drive ,desperate for the contributors to say more restrictions and lockdowns

The sainted one is determined to finish the pubs

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318653#Comment_118318653

You would think that wouldn't you.

But in Ireland we throw another few months onto restrictions like it was nothing, just more "abundance of caution".

These things shouldn't be easy, but we have an elected class that is completely dissociated from the effects of these restrictions so it is basically all academic to them.

Countries like the UK are always pumping to get reopened and back at it, but In Ireland it is easy to stay shut down. We know this because its what happened.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318890#Comment_118318890

Òh I agree, in an ideal world absolutely.

But we are far from that.

The government undermine themselves. It would be folly to not think that the government are the people doing the leaking to the media.

Personally, I would like to know as far in advance as possible that the government are thinking about imposing restrictions.

Sadly, they are too cowardly to admit what is actually going on so rely on "leaks"

bear1

So NPHET want to introduce more restrictions... on what grounds? Just to fcuk up as much of the month/country/population as possible?

dominatinMC

If these restrictions come to pass without significant public backlash, then we are truly fcuked as a society. Lining up for boosters, curbing our social lives, cancelling parties, working from home, cutting contacts, all to protect a tiny, tiny minority of the population. Hospital numbers stable (some could argue actually decreasing), ICU numbers stable/decreasing, data from SA suggesting Omicron is but a head cold, yet we are rewarded with more restrictions. And what can they actually do now, bar put us in lockdown - effectively.

What happened to living with Covid? How about our slow, cautious, gradual reopening - so that we stay open and don't go backwards? Those words ring hollow now. I know it can be hard to make predictions in a pandemic, but at least have some courage and conviction. This constant deference to NPHET by our elected officials is bordering on undemocratic at this point.

SaoPaulo41

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318991#Comment_118318991

Totally agree, and their positive or pessimistic predictions won't come to pass and when they don't and they are asked about the models,they will hide behind restrictions.Hey look the restrictions work that's why models didn't come to pass. It's a farce

SaoPaulo41

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118318969#Comment_118318969

Because their modelling is woeful and they don't know what they are doing . I jabbed twice ,will get my booster, but begining to think whats the point if we will always have restrictions