Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

If the Democrats made serious noises about breaking up the union, it would just raise the temperature and lead to more sabre rattling from the Republicans. You may have your sensible establishment Republicans who would like to strike a more conciliatory tone, but I think the way the Republican party is going those voices would be drowned out or silenced. It just raises the probability of open confrontation and that is exactly what many in Trump's base seem to be seeking - the display they put on during 1/6 and the disturbing amount of support those actions had with the wider Republican base is indicative of this.

I expect D Trump Snr or Jnr to make a statement tonight on their usual style slamming former NY Gov Andrew Cuomo as he's been charged with a misdemeanor sex crime related charge in Albany City Court tonight.

I think we need to dispense with the idea of Trump dropping dead from poor lifestyle choices. The way people talk about him, he should be dead ten years already, but he's not. He'll die one day, and poor lifestyle may be a factor, but I am not confident that it's imminent.

It makes it clear that in those states trump's name is muck, and without those purple states trump will never win in 2024. So what's the GOP leadership to do?

If they get a bunch of governor, etc... wins in though, it makes it alot easier to turn the states red from purple by being able to implement various voting right/suppression rules.

So it wouldnt matter how toxic he is if they can basically reduce the ability of demographics that traditonally don't vote rep to vote at all

Its near impossible to replicate Trump. I have heard some have said you may get an intellectual version of Trump but that's not possible!

Trump even before he ran for president was a piece of pop culture who had marketed himself as the American dream personified. He also has insane charisma and is very much a Ric Flair type person. He knew playing to one base would rile up the other side very successfully. He just got the math's wrong in 2020.

I don't see anyone who could be a mini Trump, maybe if pressed the barstool guy in 4-8 years, but even still big ask as he is unknown to so many.

The other problem for Hailey, RDS etc, you will have to handle Trump with kid gloves in a primary because its quite possible even if you beat him he could still be a pain and run a 3rd party campaign while calling you a "RINO".....Trump on the other hand won't think twice about burying anyone in a primary .

Not worth the hassle if you are under 50 is it?

I think he would struggle to last the four years so he could always use the VP spot as a tempter for anybody youngish who may want to challenge him initially.

He won't run unopposed, but realistically I'd only put money on Cotton, Pence, Pompeo, Cruz and maybe the governors Noem and Hogan contesting and Trump would massacre all those nerds. Heck Noem would be running with half an eye on been VP.

Since every accusation is an admission, could it be that he has been drinking the blood of children to live longer? Do we know where hw gets his pizzas?

It keeps him in the news cycle. That is the start and end of it. There is noting strategic (well not internationally anyway) about it.

Bannon in trouble

It seems that, after his surrender to the Feds, Bannon plans to ask the courts for permission to request to be allowed travel abroad while awaiting trial. Clever move (whomever planned the move to a battleground not chosen by the Govt) to make an issue of his freedom to travel before the courts and upstage any plan the DOJ for his trial, distracting attention from Trumps [past and present] activities. Any other likely defendants for trial on ignoring congress subpoenas would gain if Bannon won a travel freedom case. It'd be impossible to keep any defendant in custody pending trial.

Does anyone know of a good fact-checker site? One F/B site has posted that Rupert Murdoch told a room of News Corp stockholders this week that Don Trump's constant complaining about the 2020 election is getting in the way of conservatives moving their agenda forward, adding that it’s time for him to put on his big boy pants and move on from the the past.

Every single news outlet is reporting it too.

He, apparently, said that Trump is "too focused on the past", which is a pretty milquetoast reproach.

Still, when the owner of Trump's propaganda organ for the last 6 years kinda says shut the fuck up, it's at least a little bit serious.

It's difficult to know exactly what he meant by it as it's a very vague statement.

However, I would imagine that after 60 odd court cases and audits turning up no actual evidence of wrong doing in the last election, a lot of people "on the right" are wanting Trump to quit his bollocks as it's making them all look bad. There's only so much failing propaganda that can be tolerated before it starts to hurt its own side and I would think that that's what Murdoch meant to get across.

The "stolen election" avenue has been exhausted and it is, and always was, a dead end.

And so it begins...

With Kyle Rittenhouse found not guilty on all charges and walking away a free person from the court, I expect Trump to go public on how he supported Rittenhouse and secured his not guilty verdict. As to whether Trump will try to escalate any street events into full blown riots, that remains to be seen. Hopefully some-one will put him in a room without any media devices and lock the door from the outside.

This is dated information from anonymous sources. Don Trump's pal Mike Lindell hosted a "cyber symposium" in August at which data gained from breaches of the election networks of Colorado and Ohio was revealed. Allegedly the reason behind the breaches was to find fraud. The attempted breach in Ohio occurred on May 4 inside the county office of John Hamercheck, R, chairman of the Lake County Board of Commissioners, according to two individuals with knowledge of the incident, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigations by the FBI and state agencies. State and county officials said no sensitive data were obtained, but they determined that a private laptop was plugged into the county network in Hamercheck’s office, and that the routine network traffic captured by the computer was circulated at the same Lindell conference as the data from the Colorado breach. Asked in a telephone interview whether he knew of the attempted breach or participated in it, Hamercheck said he was advised not to discuss the investigation. The report covered in several media sources was updated 16 hours ago.