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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Trump claiming he helped Youngkin win last night despite the fact Youngkin avoided Trump and his MAGA message like the plague


    Would love to see the Dems start calling fraud on the election and demand audits just to pìss him off.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    The mention of Trump Jr. does remind that above all else, it's always worth remembering that this family consistently presents itself as one with barely a shred of decency or empathy. Why in this case? Because Trump Jr. is currently selling T-Shirts from his website, mocking Alec Baldwin's recent and tragic on-set shooting.

    Donald Trump Jr. is selling T-shirts on his web site that mock the fatal shooting on Alec Baldwin's movie set.

    The T-shirts promoted on his website include the tagline "guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people."

    The shirts retail for $27.99 and appeared online after Baldwin accidentally fired a prop gun on a movie set that killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and injured director Joel Souza, Insider reported.

    Presumably, this is a bitter retaliation because of Baldwin's frequent impersonation of Donald TRump Sr. on SNL





  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    The Trump comments on Virginia are absurd as he lost the state by 10 points and when Corey Stewart run for senate on a pure MAGA ticket he lost by 16 points.

    Youngkin has set a template for other GOP people in blue/purple states, just do enough to keep him happy but keep him away especially towards the end. The 2 Georgia senators who lost in January learned this lesson the hard way.

    The statement however is more proof if any was needed he will run in 2024, its killing him Youngkin is getting all this shine,,,,as if he is getting to step aside and allow Pence, RDS the GOP nomination ,,,,probably one of the few things that comfort the Dems atm.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,149 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    It makes it clear that in those states trump's name is muck, and without those purple states trump will never win in 2024. So what's the GOP leadership to do?



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2



    Its a brutal thing to say and I would never wish this on anyone,,,,but from a pure strategic POV the best thing for the GOP would be Trump to drop dead before then.

    He won't be beaten in a primary because he has minimum 30% GOP vote locked in and I assume the likes of De Santis and Hailey would not want the hassle and focus on 2028 instead.

    If I were a Biden/Harris I'd be much more content to run against Trump than the other contenders such as RDS, Hailey etc.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,443 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    If they get a bunch of governor, etc... wins in though, it makes it alot easier to turn the states red from purple by being able to implement various voting right/suppression rules.

    So it wouldnt matter how toxic he is if they can basically reduce the ability of demographics that traditonally don't vote rep to vote at all



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm inclined to agree with this. If he runs again, it'll end in defeat for the GOP unless the Democrats repeat their mistake of 2016.

    I'm surprised there hasn't been a Trump-like figure to replace him. I thought the GOP would discard him for a boilerplate copy but their base still seem to be obsessed with him and he'll burn the GOP if they abandon him properly.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    Its near impossible to replicate Trump. I have heard some have said you may get an intellectual version of Trump but that's not possible!

    Trump even before he ran for president was a piece of pop culture who had marketed himself as the American dream personified. He also has insane charisma and is very much a Ric Flair type person. He knew playing to one base would rile up the other side very successfully. He just got the math's wrong in 2020.

    I don't see anyone who could be a mini Trump, maybe if pressed the barstool guy in 4-8 years, but even still big ask as he is unknown to so many.

    The other problem for Hailey, RDS etc, you will have to handle Trump with kid gloves in a primary because its quite possible even if you beat him he could still be a pain and run a 3rd party campaign while calling you a "RINO".....Trump on the other hand won't think twice about burying anyone in a primary .

    Not worth the hassle if you are under 50 is it?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    If Trump runs (and the only reason he won't is if he is incapable due to health or legal issues) then I don't see any credible challengers in a primary. He's basically unbeatable. He has the base sewn up. There simply isn't a Mitt Romney demographic in the Republican party any longer that would capture the votes necessary to beat him in a primary. All the younger candidates will just sit it out. If he were to win then he could only serve a single term anyway (barring him going full facist)



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    I think he would struggle to last the four years so he could always use the VP spot as a tempter for anybody youngish who may want to challenge him initially.

    He won't run unopposed, but realistically I'd only put money on Cotton, Pence, Pompeo, Cruz and maybe the governors Noem and Hogan contesting and Trump would massacre all those nerds. Heck Noem would be running with half an eye on been VP.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 37,332 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The only thing that I saw Trump do differently was to ditch the pretence at being a serious politician. You see some of the stuff coming out of the GOP and wonder how they can't find a suitable replacement from within their own ranks. Obviously, I'm missing something but I wonder if that might be because Trump will sacrifice the GOP itself rather than be replaced.

    We sat again for an hour and a half discussing maps and figures and always getting back to that most damnable creation of the perverted ingenuity of man - the County of Tyrone.

    H. H. Asquith





  • "The biggest change I’ve seen in Congress is Israel literally owned Congress — you understand that," Trump said on the conservative talk radio show. "Ten years ago, 15 years ago, and it was so powerful. It was so powerful and today it’s almost the opposite."


    MAGA, indeed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Wash Post: Manhattan DA convenes new grand jury in Trump Org. case to weigh potential charges



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,307 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Since every accusation is an admission, could it be that he has been drinking the blood of children to live longer? Do we know where hw gets his pizzas?



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    And on that back of this it seems Youngkins underage son tries to illegally vote for him not once but twice, what was it Republicans were saying about voter fraud?





  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,048 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Why is it that every time actual evidence of actual Voting irregularities (or even attempted efforts) show up it's Republicans that did it?

    Here's another one

    GOP Candidate complains about how "Mail in voting is broken" because his daughter didn't get her voting card - Turns out she was trying to vote in the wrong district.

    Pennsylvania GOP gubernatorial candidate Bill McSwain tweeted that the state's voting system is broken after his daughter's mail-in ballot arrived after Election Day. A state election official responded that his daughter attempted to register as a voter in the wrong county.

    The delay was because they had to send it back to the right district and the fact that the USPS is such a shambles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    So just seen this on Twitter and it seems Trump may have broken the Logan act, Who does he think he is with these stunts and what does he think it achieves?




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,486 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    It keeps him in the news cycle. That is the start and end of it. There is noting strategic (well not internationally anyway) about it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,251 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    It purely keeps people talking about him, and that's ideal for him. Really, news outlets should stop reporting on his nonsense but unfortunately its like a slow motion car crash. Impossible to ignore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,149 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs




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  • Registered Users Posts: 454 ✭✭Ben Done


    Seems his case has been allocated to a Trump-appointed judge, though - between the stacked Supreme Court and the shenanigans in the Rittenhouse and Arbery trials, the US justice system doesn't inspire much confidence that justice will be served..



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,237 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    “A 2019 American airstrike in Syria that killed at least 70 people, including women and children, may have been a war crime. The U.S. military covered it up.”


    Who knows what else they covered up?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    CNN is reporting that Bannon is going to surrender himself on Monday [presumably to a federal justice officer] without saying who the source for it's information. Mark Meadows might be in further trouble, this time in reference to a device he used for communications while White House COS for Trump. It's being speculated that the device may not have been an official device provided to him for use in his duties as Trumps COS.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It seems that, after his surrender to the Feds, Bannon plans to ask the courts for permission to request to be allowed travel abroad while awaiting trial. Clever move (whomever planned the move to a battleground not chosen by the Govt) to make an issue of his freedom to travel before the courts and upstage any plan the DOJ for his trial, distracting attention from Trumps [past and present] activities. Any other likely defendants for trial on ignoring congress subpoenas would gain if Bannon won a travel freedom case. It'd be impossible to keep any defendant in custody pending trial.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,418 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Trump really turning on Mitch McConnell now (he's even given him a silly name), he's starting to sound worried IMO




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ....This tweet ends with the fine eminent words "Any Republican in the House or Senate who votes for this Bill will never ever get a Trump Endorsement"

    😯 😕 😑



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ah Trump. Gripes at the infrastructure bill not helping where it's needed most ... which he had ample opportunity to do when he was president. Instead chose to let the aging system continue to rot.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,266 CMod ✭✭✭✭Nody



    Jacob Chansley, the so-called "QAnon Shaman," was sentenced to 41 months in prison for his role in the US Capitol riot.

    That's now seen as a baseline for future judgements.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Post deleted as Nody posted on sentence earlier.

    Post edited by aloyisious on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Does anyone know of a good fact-checker site? One F/B site has posted that Rupert Murdoch told a room of News Corp stockholders this week that Don Trump's constant complaining about the 2020 election is getting in the way of conservatives moving their agenda forward, adding that it’s time for him to put on his big boy pants and move on from the the past.



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