Heavyweight Boxing

Wallin’s a big man. Very game, and has a good chin. It’s Dillian Whyte, folks he is in with, not a prime Fury.

Fair enough that Whyte is circa 3-1 on, but I’d expect this to be close and hard won. Victory for either man not a certainty!

Wallin's biggest issue will be if a few lads on here give him a chance.

Don't start jinxing my bets! 😂😂

The "top fighters" are the ones that get the experience by getting the chances. They are usually the ones that don't get beaten in their first few fights. They had gotten their steps up at the right time along the way. For example, if say Fury and Wilder had fought after 2 fights each, one would have lost and the loser might have been relegated to being used as a journeyman. A tough fight with a bad loss can also change a boxer. So that loser likely wouldn't be being talked about today. Most lads have a window in which they can either make it or not.

Whyte's a hard one to call ,

Who's the best guy he has fought since AJ, In my view its probably Chisora who gave Whyte all sorts of problems he was beating him till the Ko in the 2nd fight,

Parker is a good name but very average , Parker could have finished him to,

AVP flatlined him & he is well past it ,

He would have needed a fight to keep busy anyway, Maybe a lesser opponent but Wallin could be a decent warm up for Fury ,

Not sure it'll be that easy Wilder was throwing jabs from the outside & i think he has a 5inch reach advantage on Whyte ?

Also i don't think Whyte's is agile enough to get in & out like that,

Fury could also approach Whyte differently than he did Wilder & be lighter & move more, That the problem with Fury is he can skin a cat in so many different ways its hard to predict

Styles make fights so what was there Saturday may not be there for Whyte ,

Fury is the best heavyweight of his generation on current evidence, thats it, you can put holes in anyones record, arguably Joshuas best win was also against Wlad, 2 years after Fury beat him.

Also, 'Prime Wlad' from 2008 was beating Sultan Ibragimov in a 12 round UD and knocking out Tony Thompson in the 11th round, lets not get carried away 😀

As for Fury's lineal title, he has held it since he beat Wlad, so he has 'defended' it 7 times surely?

He was caught with a shot round the back of the head in Ruiz match that he never recovered from it could happen to anyone ,( Lennox twice)

Getting beaten soundly over 12 rounds is quite different

So what happens if wallin wins? Will Fury be forced to wait around for the rematch?

Also if wallin wins the rematch also will Fury have to fight him again?

Technically/officially he has defended it (WBC) once I think, but I get your point....the fights after Wlad were not sanctioned world title defenses

Of this generation/time he can well be argued the best around today, of course.

He needs to do more to come close to some others greats. Has two wins against world class rated fighters. One almost 40, and one who many believe is not all that great...

And Wlad aged 31/32 was a clearly better fighter vs aged 39 in 2015 from what I see...

One more thing about the AJ fight -

Was there any need for the Rocky 4 bit of his entrance ?

All the cheerleading etc, could not have helped.

That sounds about right, Bob arum was asked about the outcome if wallin wins would he then fight fury and he laughed and said fury has already beaten him and Mauricio is a good boxing man that will see sense

Bob is going favouring wallin over whyte because he was able to box well and took all of furys punches through the fight, he’s currently 2/1 outsider

They where better conditioned back them because they where up to there neck in cocktail of Jesus juice , Look at the Real deal you honestly think that man made that physical change naturally he;d a set of traps on him like Kai Green , You just got to look at all the heavyweights of the early 90's

Mike Tyson said he used a prosthetic penis to get through drug tests & when pushed on it released peds would tarnish his legacy & said & said it was just because he done cocaine & smoked weed ,

It certainly still happens today but harder to get away with so not as strong

What i will say very early to compare Fury , AJ , Wilder to old school fighters we need to see them fight more big names in the next few years ,Although time is against Wilder

If guys like Smith ,Tucker ,Ruddock could last 12 with Mike don't see why AJ or Wilder couldn't , There's also Tilis & Green but Tyson was only about 19 then

Tua is a bit like Parker loads of wins but never fought anyone & the few times he did he lost,

Fury never KOs Vladimir. No chance. Fury isn't actually a ko merchant. He grinds fighters down. You don't grind valdimir down.

No hope against Lewis who keeps him at distance easily and if he gets in his lights go out because he doesn't have the defense.

I heard an interview with Wallin on a boxing podcast last week and he said Whyte has a rematch clause if he loses.

`yeah he is signed with eddie hear and rematchroom boxing

if whyte loses fury can crack on with another fight if he fancies it, he has one more to do in the states

Strangely Fury, his Da & Peter have said that they noticed everyone for 10 years always fought Wlad trying to catch land that on big shot because of Brewster & Sanders but that he had fixed that hole ,So they thought the best bet was to fight him technically as he became arrogant & thought no one would even try that route to victory,

Again the beauty of Fury is he has different ways to skin the cat,