VW ID.3

VWPAT · 27-09-2021 08:49PM

I am new to this forum. I have id.3 bought in feb this year. Its the basic model but has everything i need. Sofrware 2.1 and got wecharge app two weeks ago. The 2.3 rollout for ireland starts on week 40. Lovely car and dream to drive. Still finding little bits not in manual. Silver colour.

dmcg90 · 28-09-2021 07:33AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117942848#Comment_117942848

He's been great to work with alright!

Calahonda52 · 28-09-2021 07:41AM

How can you over ride the 80% charging ceiling on the app or in the car.

I have it at 100% on the app under settings but the estimated time is to 80%

Should the charge level be set before you start charging?

Am not at car now

eagerv · 28-09-2021 08:41AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948287#Comment_117948287

In the car it's just a simple matter of moving the slider to the desired % and the time to charge will immediately show.

On the app you do the same, but you have to remember to press "save" when you change %. App also as we know is not always reliable with 4G reception etc.

% can be adjusted before or during charging.

the_amazing_raisin · 28-09-2021 08:52AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117946737#Comment_117946737

Yeah the consumption in my ID.4 has gone above 20kWh/100km as well

One thing to watch out for is the consumption from short jouneys isn't indicative of what it'll do over a long journey

If you do 3 short journeys a day the battery and cabin will be heated up 3 times, as opposed to once if you were doing a longer trip

the_amazing_raisin · 28-09-2021 08:53AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948287#Comment_117948287

I've noticed the app can be pretty hit and miss when it comes to updating the charging limit

Seems to fail to update a fair bit

Haven't tried the latest version yet so maybe they've improved it

eagerv · 28-09-2021 09:04AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948538#Comment_117948538

Wait till the temp goes below zero.. Would be surprised if there was any battery heating as yet, I certainly haven't noticed it.

handpref · 28-09-2021 10:32AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117947104#Comment_117947104

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117934542#Comment_117934542

What type of stats are you getting Fits ?

Battery before leaving, home and distance if that’s not too annoying ))

Waiting on a 77kw and interested to see the effects the weather will have-

Also is it running the Andoya wheels ? Do they have run flats or Conti seal set up?

I had a fiasco on Sunday with a flat in the Zoe, space saver I’d picked up off a Clio didn’t fit the front wheel, needs a spacer, put it on the back and it got me home- jack broke as the last bolt went in....Trying to maybe plan ahead to suss out a spare for the id3 and a heavy duty jack- thanks -

the_amazing_raisin · 28-09-2021 11:03AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117948579#Comment_117948579

I guess for comparison, I just went to the shops, roughly 4km roundtrip and had consumption of 19.9kWh/100km versus my average of 17.4kWh/100km

Probably down to having the temperature set higher (21C versus 19C) and it being a bit colder

I didn't see the huge initial power draw that would indicate the battery heater working hard, ~2-3kW while the car was sitting idle

I could see the battery heater switching on in the the early mornings after a cold night. The car seems to try to keep the battery between 20-30C as much as possible

eagerv · 28-09-2021 11:31AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949127#Comment_117949127

Yes I would say any decrease in efficiency atm is purely down to cabin heating, IIRC the first time last year I noticed battery heating was in November.

Then again, I don't normally "do" early mornings, the advantages of being an evening worker🙂. Even this time of the year and hopefully for the next month or so efficiency for me will be similar to the warmer months except for a bit of cabin heating when required.

fits · 28-09-2021 11:35AM

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Battery charged to 90%. Return journey of 260 km mostly motorway at speed limit. (M7,M50). Getting home with approx 30%.

JC 3.14159 · 28-09-2021 12:30PM

Firstly, thanks for everyone who has contributed to this thread, it's been really useful.

My family and I relocated to Ireland a few months ago and needed to sort out a car fairly quick so just rang a few dealers to see what they had in stock. Went for a silver ID3 Family 58kWh (the lower powered 145PS version). The only addition was the bike rack towball which I got installed by the dealer. Pricey at 1250EUR but it's a very neat job and I'll get plenty of use out of it.

Really happy with the car so far, it's a nice spec and plenty fast compared to anything I've driven before (and maybe can be soft-upgraded in future - I understand there's no physical difference between the two power levels?).

Proper lane keeping would be nice to have, I didn't cop the difference between travel assist and lane keeping assist when I bought it. Even without it the ACC is great though for motorways. Again, maybe something that will be a paid-for upgrade in future - I'd imagine all the hardware is in place.

Got lucky that we're living close to a (for now) free 50kW charger so between that and charging occasionally at Lidl, car parks etc we haven't charged at home much. Living in a temporary rental house for now so it's granny cable out the window when we have needed it. Once we've bought a house we'll be getting an overnight charger installed.

It's been interesting how you automatically start thinking in EV mode (or at least, a geek like me does). Previously in diesel mode I'd have taken longer motorway routes without thinking too much about it - e.g. the M18 from Limerick to Galway - turning off at Kilternan means 19km to Doughiska roundabout in Galway versus 27km if you continue to M6 roundabout, but no real difference in journey time.

The only ID3 efficiency data I've found is the link below - 19km at 90km/h would use 2.45kWh, or 4.2% of a 58kWh battery, whereas 27km at 130km/h would use 5.45kWh, or 9.5% of 58kWh (the data is .129kwh/km at 90km/h vs .202kWh/km at 130km/h). Average speeds would be a bit lower on the roads mentioned here but similar maths will apply. A few choices like that on a weekend trip is the difference between needing to stop for an extra charge to get home, or not.

insideevs.com/news/444065/volkswagen-id3-highway-range-test-results sorry can't post proper links...

On a related note - is there any route planner which can do this sort of maths for EVs? Or even a chart/curve with a few more datapoints?

the_amazing_raisin · 28-09-2021 01:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117949485#Comment_117949485

One of the best route plnners out there is A Better Route Planny (ABRP)

https://abetterrouteplanner.com/

It has presets for the ID.3 and will plan your charging stops

The onboard satnav will also do this, but it tends to be quite conservative, it doesn't like you going below 20% SoC and seems to want to charge to a higher SoC than needed.

ABRP lets you set a low arrival SoC and knows the charging curve so will ty to optimise your stops

marc1 · 28-09-2021 02:12PM

Do any of these cars with the higher small journey consumption levels have the heat pump fitted?

28-09-2021 02:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950026#Comment_117950026

I'm not sure many here have the heat pump nor could justify the price, I don't think it's needed with the range of the 58 Kwh especially with the 78 Kwh, It was different in the days of the 24 Kwh leaf when any extra efficiency was welcome due to the low range.

I think the battery heating being poorly managed ( currently ) will greatly wipe out any benefit of the heat pump. There is no driver control as to whether they want to waste energy heating the battery for short trips or not nor is there an option to pre heat for fast charging, at least not yet, all this can be implemented via software updates but I can imagine VW engineers would think that this is too complicated for average drivers to understand but full auto control over battery heating could still be an option for those clueless drivers and I know People who will never get how auto climate control works and keep a rag on the dash to wipe the windscreen because it keeps fogging up lol so I can never imagine People like that understanding battery heating which is why I think manual and auto control would be really good feature to have.

RevID3 · 28-09-2021 02:52PM

Anyone used a charge point at ALDI..is it free or do you have to have a Newmotion account which are the charge point operators.

Info very scarce on this or I wouldn't have asked.

handpref · 28-09-2021 05:03PM

Anyone else notice the price increases for VW ?

Tour 5 is now €1051 more expensive

All models except the entry level have gone up in price-

June pricing €41,110

October €42,161

DrPhilG · 28-09-2021 05:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950855#Comment_117950855

I think they've upped the spec too though.

eagerv · 28-09-2021 05:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950210#Comment_117950210

Don't know about Aldi, but any Lidl ones I have used use Easygo. You need to be registered with them, was free to get the Fob last year when got ours, presume still is. Will work fine with free charge points like Lidl, but you need credit for the charged ones like Decathlon, Ikea etc.

Fantana2 · 28-09-2021 06:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950210#Comment_117950210

Used it last week, just plug in and charge. No app or fob required.

handpref · 28-09-2021 06:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950893#Comment_117950893

Tour 5 spec looks the same-

My sales guy warned me of a VW price increase across the board in October which is why I paid the deposit when I did- in fairness he was correct.

jogdish · 28-09-2021 10:43PM

@JC 3.14159

Just after reading your post, you have the exact same version I have ordered and seem to be driving a route I plan to be too. Honestly was a little worried after you mentioned about taking the early exit off the M18 to conserve battery. Starting to get a bit worried by the 58KWhr choice now, how are you finding it range wise, Galway - Limerick (return) is my 'normal 'long' ' trip.

Calahonda52 · 29-09-2021 06:35AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950923#Comment_117950923

The fobs are now 6 euro, the app works as well, no need for fob but I prefer the fob,

Calahonda52 · 29-09-2021 06:39AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117952393#Comment_117952393

Thats c 200 kms, so what speed have you in mind?

If you think driving an EV is business as usual like driving an ICE then it may not be the car for you

jogdish · 29-09-2021 10:08AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117952662#Comment_117952662

I know an EV != ICE, and I will have home charging and I am expecting to just get up and go without some planning and work has charge points. Speeds would be M18 (100-120) and 80-100 outside of the motorway.

the_amazing_raisin · 29-09-2021 11:05AM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117953299#Comment_117953299

200km should be fine. And even if you need to charge it'll be 10 mins probably. You'd struggle to go to the bathroom and get yourself a drink in that amount of time

JC 3.14159 · 29-09-2021 01:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117952393#Comment_117952393

Ah I really just meant that it's surprising how the instant feedback affects you compared to ICE cars.

E.g. using figures from A Better Route Planner (which is good, thanks amazing raisin!) I have a couple of options to get from Killaloe to Galway - cross country via Tulla etc which is 88km and uses 32% of battery, whereas going M7/tunnel/M18 is 128km, uses 51% of battery. The journey time is about the same.

Ok, Killaloe to Galway's a bit of an extreme example but even small changes like the Kilbeggan detour save a few %, and don't add to the journey time. It helps that the ID3 is really nice to drive on smaller roads too!

Obviously the same efficiency/air resistance maths applies to travelling in an ICE car but in the past I wouldn't have thought much about it - I paid more attention to journey times than thinking about distance or average speed. It's a lot more tangible when you're looking at a battery % ticking down compared to an imperceptible drop of a couple of degrees on the fuel gauge.

Overall though - even with the 58kWh there's very little range anxiety; an overnight granny charge or a bit of detour to find a charger isn't a big deal - it's a small country...

29-09-2021 02:35PM

What's the names of the VW ships again ? going to do a search see if there's one due in the next couple of weeks, absolutely livid I am at this stage.

zx80 · 29-09-2021 03:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954688#Comment_117954688

Patara - just arrived today in Emden from Spain; & Parana - en Route from Portugal to Spain.

zx80 · 29-09-2021 03:38PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117954998#Comment_117954998

Neither Patara or Parana listed as due in Dublin up to 4th October...

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