Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Elessar · 29-06-2021 04:33PM

Everyone is aware that indoor dining won't be happening before the schools go back right?

The vaccine passport for the elites isn't going to work and if it ever does it will be a complete shambles.

Protecting the schools will be the next priority. This is clear as day from the NPHET letter.

We should be marching in the hundreds of thousands on leinster house.

jammiedodgers · 29-06-2021 04:34PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Champagne corks popping in NPHET HQ.

Don't be ridiculous.

Their modelling showed that anywhere between 3 and 7,000 people could be injured from popping champagne corks so they banned them. :pac:

Lumen · 29-06-2021 04:34PM

Look, I think I've been more than reasonable up to this point but after a busy day at work I've just scanned the page count and news sites and would like to yell rhetorically WHAT THE SMEGGING HELL IS GOING ON??!!?!?

This is the rage thread, right? Cos I'm now in.

normanoffside · 29-06-2021 04:35PM

shockframe wrote: »

That's the Forbidden Dance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyLdoQGBchQ

BillyBiggs · 29-06-2021 04:38PM

HerrKapitan wrote: »

They only announced this today. Vaccines have been available for quite a while? Why would they announce it before the most popular pub going cohort haven't had a chance to register.

I mean up to today we’re they tricked into getting the vaccine, thinking that bars and restaurants would be open from today onwards.

Unthought Known · 29-06-2021 04:38PM

I have to say if I happen to find a rogue pub/restaurant that opens on July 5th regardless I will quite happily go in, have a few pints/something to eat and leave them a big tip. Never been happier to have flights booked to get away.

RobitTV · 29-06-2021 04:38PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1409880625927102464

shockframe · 29-06-2021 04:41PM

I don't believe even Spitting Image could make the Government look much more of a laughing stock than today.

Elessar · 29-06-2021 04:41PM

From the Independent:

August will be the worst month for an exponential rise in the Delta variant and the most pessimistic forecast is for 681,900 cases between July and the end of September with a potential 2,170 deaths.

The stark picture was outlined by chief medical officer Dr Tony Holohan in his letter to Government yesterday .

He also warned a high level of transmission in late summer could have significant impacts on the reopening of schools and colleges in the autumn.

He said five scenarios were modelled from best to worst but across all of them case counts rise very slowly in July. The seeds of further growth are sown next month.

Case counts will increase "exponentially" through August until a combination of vaccination and immunity among those who have been infected "slows growth through September and October."

....

"The planned easing of these measures should only proceed once a robust, non-reproducible and enforceable system of verification of vaccination or immunity status can be put in place to support this. If this is not deemed feasible, the Government should consider pausing further easing of these measures until such a system can be instituted."

There you have it folks. September/October are being touted. And if the "enforceable system of verification" doesn't work, you're not getting indoor dining at all this year. And maybe next.

Red Silurian · 29-06-2021 04:42PM

namloc1980 wrote: »

Where the capacity is minimum 5k. So that's 500 people in 83,000 capacity Croke Park. Sounds reasonable.

500 more than we could have so far though

lawred2 · 29-06-2021 04:42PM

Elessar wrote: »

From the Independent:

There you have it folks. September/October are being touted. And if the "enforceable system of verification" doesn't work, you're not getting indoor dining at all this year. And maybe next.

that's actually insane and defies the evidence right in front of our own eyes

He'll have put a load of vintners out of business and he'll retire happy.

bear1 · 29-06-2021 04:45PM

Elessar wrote: »

From the Independent:

There you have it folks. September/October are being touted. And if the "enforceable system of verification" doesn't work, you're not getting indoor dining at all this year. And maybe next.

So 5k people have died since all this started.. but they believe almost 3k will die in 3 months? **** off.

voldejoie · 29-06-2021 04:45PM

normanoffside wrote: »

Move aside Delta, there's a new variant in town.
This should keep everything closed until Christmas.

https://twitter.com/honorverity/status/1409838787937640452

Just cycling through the Greek alphabet until we eventually get to the omega variant and then start again, maybe?

Christ, today has been so disheartening. There really is no justification for it and I am now very worried about what this winter will look like!

celt262 · 29-06-2021 04:45PM

Is Leo still hoping to get people back into the office in August?

irishguitarlad · 29-06-2021 04:46PM

Just follow the money;-)

29-06-2021 04:47PM

500,000 people should march, peacefully of course, on Leinster House this weekend.

lawred2 · 29-06-2021 04:47PM

voldejoie wrote: »

Just cycling through the Greek alphabet until we eventually get to the omega variant and then start again, maybe?

Christ, today has been so disheartening. There really is no justification for it and I am now very worried about what this winter will look like!

I've little argument left in me for my mother in law who has insisted all year that we are deluding ourselves if we think the vaccine will change everything.

It'll be a new variant each and every time she said. I would usually roll my eyes.

Now I think I'll just be keeping my mouth shut.

jakiah · 29-06-2021 04:48PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

500 more than we could have so far though

Not, its far less than we have at the trial events.

namloc1980 · 29-06-2021 04:48PM

Red Silurian wrote: »

500 more than we could have so far though

If 500 people in massive stadiums is as far as we can stretch at the height of the summer then we're goosed. People watching the Euros on the TV can see what's happening around Europe, and then the height of our capability is 500 in any stadium in the country. :pac:

Beechwoodspark · 29-06-2021 04:48PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

500,000 people should march, peacefully of course, on Leinster House this weekend.

And Pigs will fly ...

bear1 · 29-06-2021 04:49PM

lawred2 wrote: »

I've little argument left in me for my mother in law who has insisted all year that we are deluding ourselves if we think the vaccine will change everything.

It'll be a new variant each and every time she said. I would usually roll my eyes.

Now I think I'll just be keeping my mouth shut.

She's spot on. We've been taken for fools

NIMAN · 29-06-2021 04:49PM

bear1 wrote: »

So 5k people have died since all this started.. but they believe almost 3k will die in 3 months? **** off.

They saw an end to all this, the hospital numbers were down, people weren't getting sick in any numbers at all, there was the date for places to start opening and life getting back to normal......so.....NPHET have to ramp the fear back up again, aided again by the media who are all too happy to keep the culture of fear going.

They have to keep themselves relevant. For as long as they can.

In any other country, the Gov would be saying "thanks for your help and advice over the last 15 months lads, now cheerio, we'll take it from here".

jammiedodgers · 29-06-2021 04:49PM

celt262 wrote: »

Is Leo still hoping to get people back into the office in August?

No that's already been pushed out to September as originally planned I think

KanyeSouthEast · 29-06-2021 04:49PM

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

And Pigs will fly ...

Well seeing as some posters thought MM’s speech was good at lunchtime I’d believe anything at this stage.

ninebeanrows · 29-06-2021 04:50PM

eskimohunt wrote: »

500,000 people should march, peacefully of course, on Leinster House this weekend.

You'd need some respectable politicians or figures in Irish society to lead it and I would be there but if the usual EIRIGI types and the likes, it's a no.

RobitTV · 29-06-2021 04:52PM

Look at the current bar and restaurant restrictions in Majorca - good place to go on holiday.

Bars and restaurants can open both indoors and outdoors from Monday to Sunday without interruption. They can open until 2am.

KanyeSouthEast · 29-06-2021 04:52PM

Matt Cooper having a pop at NPHET, asking where did they get their numbers from, hwo accurate is the NPHET modelling, why we're not opening up while others are, is there proof the delta variant is more dangerous as others. He's reading out people's complaints about the restrictions.

Matt Cooper is calling out NPHET and the government to give answers to these questions.

Matt Cooper. If that doesn't say something about what's going on, then I don't know what does.

SEPT 23 1989 · 29-06-2021 04:53PM

Sure if its October you have to start thinking about Christmas

29-06-2021 04:56PM

eskimohunt wrote: »

500,000 people should march, peacefully of course, on Leinster House this weekend.

If young people took the action they took for a young girl in a high profile rape case some time back, we'd see action..it's a question of priorities now and the youth have given everything to be left standing in the cold..

landofthetree · 29-06-2021 04:56PM

RobitTV wrote: »

Look at the current bar and restaurant restrictions in Majorca - good place to go on holiday.

I was in Dublin on Saturday night. Everything closed early, the last bus was full and social distancing wasn't great.

Of course we couldn't let pubs serve till later and put on a load of late buses.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII Read OP For Mod Warnings