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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • People need to calm down a bit.

    The politicians are taking the correct medical guidance and advice and factoring that into the opening up schedule. That’s how it should be and I wouldn’t want the politicians doing solo runs.

    NPHET are projecting that we will have cases and deaths in the next 8 weeks per capita multiples times that India suffered from their delta wave and it's been accepted without any discussion or challenge.

    Why are weddings and hotels safe for indoors but not restaurants?




  • I’m not a public health medical expert nor are the politicians

    Cool, I'll go with the UK, US, German (insert any other countries) experts over the Irish ones then.




  • People need to calm down a bit.

    The politicians are taking the correct medical guidance and advice and factoring that into the opening up schedule. That’s how it should be and I wouldn’t want the politicians doing solo runs.

    The guidance is at odds with the guidance being given in the vast majority of countries throughout the world

    We have sparsely educated medical professionals on a power trip, actively ignoring evidence from other countries




  • I’m not a public health medical expert nor are the politicians

    Then how do you know the advice is correct?




  • I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.


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  • Don’t shoot the messenger




  • Hellrazer wrote: »
    Too small - there needs to be hundreds of thousands to get anywhere.

    Starting today is starting somewhere. It could grow into something big by the weekend.




  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    You think FG is going to withdraw?




  • I assume you have sources to back up the idea that our medical advice which seems to go against the rest of Europe and much of the world is correct?

    Factless medical advice, isn't very good medical advice. You'll find insane conspiracy theories on YouTube with more supporting evidence.




  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    I have to agree with you, I refuse to listen to them anymore, have they never heard of forward planning.
    They are an absolute disgrace. Miceal the wannabe PM and Leo who still thinks he is the PM.


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  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    I sincerely hope so




  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    Hope so but the system is the bigger problem.




  • namloc1980 wrote: »
    NPHET are projecting that we will have cases and deaths in the next 8 weeks per capita multiples times that India suffered from their delta wave and it's been accepted without any discussion or challenge.

    Why are weddings and hotels safe for indoors but not restaurants?
    What you are forgetting here is that most of our old and vulnerable are vaccinated whereas they weren't in India. This surely means the effective rate as a percentage of the population is even higher as it is among a far smaller cohort.

    This shouldn't be allowed go unchallenged




  • People need to calm down a bit.

    The politicians are taking the correct medical guidance and advice and factoring that into the opening up schedule. That’s how it should be and I wouldn’t want the politicians doing solo runs.

    I'd like to have whatever you're smoking!

    For what it's worth, I'm probably one of the most rabid pro-vaccination people you'll find on this platform, and yes that includes supporting mandatory vaccinations and extra benefits for vaccinated people, but even for me, it's blindingly obvious that the government and NPHET acted out of a place of fear and panic, and the people, mostly in the hospitality sector, are paying the price!

    There is a psychological aspect to this whole situation as well, something that the both the government and NPHET are completely ignoring, at their own peril, I might add. A lot of people in this country were already at breaking point, me included. There needs to be an end visible to people, some tangible sign of relief and if you keep stringing them along for too long, people will break!

    Good luck trying to figure me out. I haven't managed that myself yet!





  • There's been a lot of focus on Hospitality but really important to mention, this also affects numerous other businesses and staff.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.






  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    The end of MM anyway.




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    Tony Holohan pictured earlier today




  • Obv i think the way we've handled restrictions to date is a joke, im embarrassed at our so called test events, our silly closing times and our general fear promoted agenda but if today is the start of a message to say get vaccinated and life can resume, don't get vaccinated and restrictions will continue for you i'm ok with it. indoor dining was just the oppurtunity to do this.

    I think indoor dining should have opened for everyone today as it was going to be restricted tables of 6, table service, tracing bla bla bla so that's enough of a risk mitigant but id be much happier if they said open as per Feb 2020 to all fully vaccinated.

    I think it would be fair to say you like many others are concerned more about the vaccinated and non vaccinated distinction and civil liberties issues, not the indoor dining itself - I get the point but simply just don't agree, my opinion is that get fully vaxed and back to life(obv i dont want restictions on anyone not vaccinated due medical reasons they cant do so).

    Just to add, if restrictions maintain after the vaccine programme ends(demand ceases) then it would be time for some of mass protests\disobedience i see so many twitter talking about!

    (maybe my view is reactionary but I'm just saying what I think)




  • Laughing stock

    Why is the virus more deadlier in Ireland




  • People need to calm down a bit.

    The politicians are taking the correct medical guidance and advice and factoring that into the opening up schedule. That’s how it should be and I wouldn’t want the politicians doing solo runs.

    Is this the same science that said AZ and J&J was not suitable for the younger population but now is.
    They’re making it up as they go along. A primary school class would do a better job.


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  • You think FG is going to withdraw?

    I think you know what I mean but I believe you know that.




  • bloopy wrote: »
    No indoor dining without vaccine or proof of previous infection.
    Covid parties about to become all the rage.

    Natural Selection




  • I'm 29 and I am vaccinated as I am deemed high risk. Not a single one of my friends are vaccinated due to my age and neither is my partner. What fecking good is this ''vaccinated only'' thing to anyone under 40?

    I can go to a wedding and eat with my partner indoors with 50 other people.
    I can book a hotel and drink and eat in the residence bar for the night with a full hotel of people.
    But if I book a small restaurant with adequate social distanced tables I'm allowed inside and my partner is not.

    I understand there well may be a good reason for this extension but they're not helping themselves at all by making a complete balls of it and making it impossible for anyone to get their heads around.




  • As an irish man living abroad and looking in, the government have lost the plot.




  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    Probably not - but I do think this is turning into a farce of epic proportions.

    The discussion around letting vaccinated people have more freedom was raised months back and only now are they making a plan.


    Fair enough the UK have slowed full reopening - emphasis on full there.


    People are just going to meet in each others homes now.




  • The end of MM anyway.

    Perhaps but just wondering what's the current alternative, opposition parties will blow hot and cold and independents (well I'll say no more)

    When it comes to the crunch, there's very little appetite to go against public health advice and I honestly believe this goes back to what happened after last Christmas. I'm not saying I agree or disagree, just saying very little political appetite for a different direction.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.






  • bear1 wrote: »
    I believe lads we've just witnessed the end of this government today.

    We all wish that was the case, but it won't happen. Even if half their TDs disagree with it, they're not surrendering their pay packets. Sh1ts only care about themselves, not us.




  • Vaccines have broken the link between Covid cases and hospitalisations.

    But our link with the Irish people shall never be broken.

    We will manage your risk. We will make your choices. All for a safer Ireland.

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  • lemonkey wrote: »
    I'm 29 and I am vaccinated as I am deemed high risk. Not a single one of my friends are vaccinated due to my age and neither is my partner. What fecking good is this ''vaccinated only'' thing to anyone under 40?

    I can go to a wedding and eat with my partner indoors with 50 other people.
    I can book a hotel and drink and eat in the residence bar for the night with a full hotel of people.
    But if I book a small restaurant with adequate social distanced tables I'm allowed inside and my partner is not.

    I understand there well may be a good reason for this extension but they're not helping themselves at all by making a complete balls of it and making it impossible for anyone to get their heads around.


    Lets be honest its not intended for you at all - you got an early shot for the right reason.

    I would have been happy enough for them to give greater freedoms to fully vaccinated but that should have been discussed and the plan in place months back.


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