Drumpot wrote: »
People keep acting as though this is a very simple thing to manage and Ireland is the only country in the world to make mistakes or be overly cautious. People select tidbits from other countries as it suits the point they want to make, but every country is generally trying to find its own way to manage this.
SusanC10 wrote: »
Does this mean kids (none of whom are vaccinated) can't go to the cinema?
b0nk1e wrote: »
Just cancelled a long weekend in Kerry next month (€285) and a five-night stay in Donegal (€750) around the August Bank Holiday.
That's over a thousand euro - without a bite of food or a pint of stout drunk - the Government has just taken from small businesses in its jurisdiction and sent to northern Ireland instead.
This will be happening up and down the country today. The worst Taoiseach in the history of the state: a toxic combination of scared and spiteful which is going to take generations to recover from.
johnboy1298 wrote: »
Anyone who goes out and votes in the next election should really ask why they even bother. Politics in this country is in dire straits, a huge shake up needs to happen and get some actual leadership back into our political parties. What's happening at the moment in this country is crazy and not one person from any of the main parties even questioning it. Stuck in never ending lockdown with the debt piling up, every other country opening up and nobody in politics or mainstream media really putting the pressure on and asking why??
I honestly don't understand it at all, but the worst of it is there isn't one electable party that I'd look at and think could do better.
gozunda wrote: »
OK. I've similar booked and regardless I'm going and have no thought of cancelling either.
I know for a fact I will still be served as much alcohol as I like and can eat out without problem. And yes I know that's outdoors but nothing I haven't done in previous years tbh.
francogarbanzo wrote: »
b0nk1e wrote: »
Ireland is the only country in Europe, the middle east and north Africa where cafes and bars are prohibited from operating indoors.
Drumpot wrote: »
True but I would still class them as higher risk then cinemas. I think this is part of the confusion that has caused issues. Its not completely clear how different industries are being rated in terms of risk.
But I feel this is basically a risk assessment, the government are trying to manage opening up the economy in a manner that serves the most but keeps the risk lower while we vaccinate.
I understand publicans and owners of restaurants finding this very very hard and being extremely unhappy about it. But it makes sense when you look at it from a broad sense of what is worth a risk and what is not. People keep acting as though this is a very simple thing to manage and Ireland is the only country in the world to make mistakes or be overly cautious. People select tidbits from other countries as it suits the point they want to make, but every country is generally trying to find its own way to manage this. But equally every country is not facing the exact same issues. Every country doesn't have the same health service , so comparing like for like is wrong.
blowitupref wrote: »
Communions and Confirmations that was planned for early July are off but weddings with guests of 50 people can proceed. Where is the logic in allowing one over the other?
b0nk1e wrote: »
I don't know how much you've spent on it, but you must earn more than me if you can afford to gamble a thousand euro on it not raining. In Ireland.
Spanish Eyes wrote: »
Is the Dail bar and restaurant open indoors for the poor crathurs meeting down the docks? I suppose they are getting sambos and drinks delivered so they can scoff them outdoors on the banks of the Liffey.
I hope they are not eating and drinking inside. Does anyone know?
RavenBea17b wrote: »
What isn't included in the screenshot is -:
They tested positive and passed away - not necessary of COVID. They will have tested positive within 28 days of passing away and not had COVID anymore.
Clarity if anything is needed from the figures.
No information of ages or any other known illness, how ill they may have been already prior etc.
Bit like something that was circulating from an anti vac tweet - headline something like person foot 'exploding' after Pfizer jab - what wasn't mentioned was that person had already lost one foot and had toes amputated from the other foot - due diabetic complications and was already set to lose the remaining part of the toes etc.
As for AZ and J&J. They, along with all the vaccines are designed to reduce and stop serious Covid, ensuring hospitals are not overwhelmed. AZ is known to be a slow burner, the second jab is key -as are all 2 injection vaccines.
Pfizer 96% stop hospital and serious Covid, AZ 92-93% on the last data release, -it's a ongoing situation, more data comes as the vaccinations and live updates come up.
The mixing of vaccines has been and continues to be reviewed. Mixing AZ and Pfizer looks very promising - AZ giving those all important and long term T cells, Pfizer the antibodies.
As the vaccinations increase, we will see more people be able to go out and enjoy life as much as possible. It feels particular tough now, but Delta is so very transmissible. Covid is here for good, we will all be living with it in one form or another. Boosters will be the norm.
giveitholly wrote: »
Protests starting alreadyhttps://twitter.com/PeterDooleyDUB/status/1409852569812361217?s=19
dirkmeister wrote: »
Ray D’Arcy comparing the closure extension to the smoking ban.
Says being an “outlier is often a good thing”
Fann Linn wrote: »
Message for young people appears to be get infected as you wont be getting the vaccine before the end of summer if you want to socialise. PCR not a guarantee of getting off the island either if Nphet have their way according to Donnelly at 1.00 today.