VW ID.3

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 11:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

granny cable.

Cheers.

KCross · 13-06-2021 11:54AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Many thanks for the replies lads. You answered my next question, tethered v untethered I didn't know what it meant. I don't have a side entrance but I could put an untethered EO mini in the porch or even on the black raised border between myself and the next door neighbour. The meter is in the porch could the electrician access power from there putting in a separate isolator or does he need to go back to the consumer unit? Oh, I have an electric shower too:D

This might be a better conversation in the charge point thread but is your house wiring quite old... meter inside the house sounds like it might be?

You might need a survey/check from electrician first to decide what’s possible. You might have to do remedial work first.

Regardless, since you have an electric shower you definitely should get a load sensing charge point. It will negate the need for a priority switch and is a much better long term solution.

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 12:00PM

KCross wrote: »

This might be a better conversation in the charge point thread but is your house wiring quite old... meter inside the house sounds like it might be?

You might need a survey/check from electrician first to decide what’s possible. You might have to do remedial work first.

Regardless, since you have an electric shower you definitely should get a load sensing charge point. It will negate the need for a priority switch and is a much better long term solution.

The house was built in 1994 so should be ok that way, the meter is in the porch not in the house itself. I had read about needing something extra if you had an electric shower. The load sensing charge point would ideal as they would rarely clash but you know yourself Murphy’s law etc:pac: I won’t derail the thread any further. Thanks to everyone.

jogdish · 13-06-2021 12:06PM

Finding hard to get information on the ID charger. Does anyone have this charger at their home, picture/video how big is it ? Would need to be on a front facing wall of the driveway here, kinda worried how much of an eyesore it would be. Are there clever ways to hide it ? Also is it a cable from the ESB before it enters the house or from after the metre (on the inside for me) and back out again?

eagerv · 13-06-2021 12:12PM

KCross wrote: »

How are you all doing on tyres?

I've over 10k km done but the rears are at 2mm already! :eek:

Fronts are just shy of 4mm.

I've the Bridgestone Turanza ECO 18". These ones
They are well rated (A fuel and B grip) but obviously soft.

How are the rest of you doing? Not sure I'll get the same tyres if they disappear after 10k km.

Just checked mine this morning. Almost 12k km.

Front 8mm. Rear 7mm. Goodyear 18" Efficient grip Performance.

into_the_wild · 13-06-2021 12:15PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

granny cable.

I thought granny cables came in 32A as well. No?

KCross · 13-06-2021 12:33PM

eagerv wrote: »

Just checked mine this morning. Almost 12k km.

Front 8mm. Rear 7mm. Goodyear 18" Efficient grip Performance.

Wow! I know you drive easy and I'm not light on the throttle but the differences are stark there.

The Bridgestones have melted off mine! I do hit alot of roundabouts which doesnt help, but still!

I had the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance on the Leaf and got reasonable mileage from those so might go look at them then.

thanks for replying.

KCross · 13-06-2021 12:37PM

jogdish wrote: »

Finding hard to get information on the ID charger. ... Also is it a cable from the ESB before it enters the house or from after the metre (on the inside for me) and back out again?

Its after the meter. If you put it before the meter the ESB will be having a quiet word with the cops!

You can now "tap off" a cable from the meter box if that is easier but the default should be to wire it back to your consumer unit if you can.

into_the_wild wrote: »

I thought granny cables came in 32A as well. No?

The generally accepted idea of a granny cable is something you can plug into any standard house socket.... that would put it at a max of 13A and they are generally limited to 10A so as not to overheat/overload the wiring.

13-06-2021 12:42PM

KCross wrote: »

Its after the meter. If you put it before the meter the ESB will be having a quiet word with the cops!

You can now "tap off" a cable from the meter box if that is easier but the default should be to wire it back to your consumer unit if you can.

The generally accepted idea of a granny cable is something you can plug into any standard house socket.... that would put it at a max of 13A and they are generally limited to 10A so as not to overheat/overload the wiring.

16A cables are there but you or preferably your Electrician need to be checking your household wiring to get that 16A without doing damage.

eagerv · 13-06-2021 12:45PM

KCross wrote: »

Wow! I know you drive easy and I'm not light on the throttle but the differences are stark there.

The Bridgestones have melted off mine! I do hit alot of roundabouts which doesnt help, but still!

I had the Goodyear Efficient Grip Performance on the Leaf and got reasonable mileage from those so might go look at them then.

thanks for replying.

At times I am not light on the throttle, but generally my driving would be fairly economical. Also mainly longer rural driving with little start/stop, roundabouts etc.
Your wear seems excessive, are you measuring actual thread depth or legal depth remaining above the wear indicators?

KCross · 13-06-2021 12:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

16A cables are there but you or preferably your Electrician need to be checking your household wiring to get that 16A without doing damage.

I don’t get your point. I’m just saying anything above 13A isn’t really a granny cable as you can’t use it “everywhere”, which is what a granny cable is.

Why would you get a 16A cable instead of a normal 16A charge point when you are going to the hassle of getting an electrician in to wire up a 16A setup? I don’t understand what you are suggesting/recommending or how it’s better/easier than a 16A charge point.

13-06-2021 12:48PM

KCross wrote: »

I don’t get your point. I’m just saying anything above 13A isn’t really a granny cable as you can’t use it “everywhere”, which is what a granny cable is.

Why would you get a 16A cable instead of a normal 16A charge point when you are going to the hassle of getting an electrician in to wire up a 16A setup? I don’t understand what you are suggesting/recommending or how it’s better/easier than a 16A charge point.

some manufacturers upgrade the 10A to 16A for 100 euro and the cable is clever enough to step down to match the supply.

KCross · 13-06-2021 01:07PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

some manufacturers upgrade the 10A to 16A for 100 euro and the cable is clever enough to step down to match the supply.

And what’s the point of that if it has a 13A plug on it?

Is what you are suggesting more relevant to the continent where 3 phase is common. I don’t see the point of it in CoBo’s scenario.

KCross · 13-06-2021 01:08PM

eagerv wrote: »

At times I am not light on the throttle, but generally my driving would be fairly economical. Also mainly longer rural driving with little start/stop, roundabouts etc.
Your wear seems excessive, are you measuring actual thread depth or legal depth remaining above the wear indicators?

Actual. My rear tyres are only 0.5mm above legal!

13-06-2021 01:13PM

KCross wrote: »

And what’s the point of that if it has a 13A plug on it?

Is what you are suggesting more relevant to the continent where 3 phase is common. I don’t see the point of it in CoBo’s scenario.

Single phase.

slave1 · 13-06-2021 01:23PM

KCross wrote: »

How are you all doing on tyres?

I've over 10k km done but the rears are at 2mm already! :eek:

Fronts are just shy of 4mm.

I've the Bridgestone Turanza ECO 18". These ones
They are well rated (A fuel and B grip) but obviously soft.

How are the rest of you doing? Not sure I'll get the same tyres if they disappear after 10k km.

Wow, something off kilter there, I know these smaller EV's suffer with spin but gone after 10k kms is unreal, even the fronts are bad.

eagerv · 13-06-2021 01:26PM

KCross wrote: »

Actual. My rear tyres are only 0.5mm above legal!

Wow, never seen tyre ware like that after only just over 10k km. Even on more sporty cars/tyres I would expect 20k km at least.

Bif · 13-06-2021 01:34PM

You guys are enjoying the 204bhp and instant torque!!!

fafy · 13-06-2021 01:43PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

I agree with your missus, a lot of them look awful, allthough, having it down the side certainly helps. I ordered this one, getting it installed in 2 weeks, its quite expensive, at €1,950 less the grant of €600, but there is no way i am looking at a messy hose reel type setup for years to come, i wanted something tethered, and also, very discreet that you would not even know, it was a charger. Choice of colours to blend in with your home as well.

https://andersen-ev.com/products/andersen-a2/

13-06-2021 01:44PM

Bif wrote: »

You guys are enjoying the 204bhp and instant torque!!!

They've all got instant torque.
sustained acceleration above 60kmph is the reason for the big motor. They've got 310Nm of torque. I don't see how they'll be able to reduce that in the 93kW version when it becomes available.

DrPhilG · 13-06-2021 06:56PM

Anybody else looking at wrapping the silly black plastic console?

Fella in England is doing them in alcantara fabric. £200 though, the console needs to come out, be separated, wrapped and re-glued.

eagerv · 13-06-2021 07:15PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Anybody else looking at wrapping the silly black plastic console?

Fella in England is doing them in alcantara fabric. £200 though, the console needs to come out, be separated, wrapped and re-glued.

The Piano black doesn't annoy me now as much as I thought it would. Before getting car I had plans to wrap.
The only bits I find look a bit messy are on the drivers door and the main screen. You cannot see the finger prints on the main screen when is in use.
I keep a pack of antibacterial wipes in car to give a quick clean now and again, probably good practice atm..:)

the_amazing_raisin · 13-06-2021 07:42PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Anybody else looking at wrapping the silly black plastic console?

Fella in England is doing them in alcantara fabric. £200 though, the console needs to come out, be separated, wrapped and re-glued.

Mine is holding up better than I expected, other than the odd wipe with a cloth it hasn't needed much cleaning

I'd probably wrap it with something matte black, those areas get a lot of greasy fingers poking them so probably best to get something hard wearing and easy to clean

DrPhilG · 13-06-2021 07:57PM

Yeah the alcantara looks nice but no more practical than the gloss black.

I've just seen too many online that have scratches, not just dust/dirt.

I'll price around the local places here for a matt wrap.

Silent Running · 13-06-2021 07:57PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

Anybody else looking at wrapping the silly black plastic console?

Fella in England is doing them in alcantara fabric. £200 though, the console needs to come out, be separated, wrapped and re-glued.

Apparently the centre console, the cup holder area, comes out and goes back really easily. So it should be handy to do a DIY vinyl or cloth cover. The material used on the seats can be got fairly easily, but it's expensive. It's microfleece, Dinamica from https://vyvafabrics.com/fabrics/dinamica/#dinamica-environment

The door handles are another story and there are tales of little plastic locators breaking off. The thinking is that the door handles are best done in place.

Great info in this thread. https://www.meinid.com/thread/223-folierung-klavierlack-elemente/

the_amazing_raisin · 13-06-2021 08:00PM

jogdish wrote: »

Finding hard to get information on the ID charger. Does anyone have this charger at their home, picture/video how big is it ? Would need to be on a front facing wall of the driveway here, kinda worried how much of an eyesore it would be. Are there clever ways to hide it ? Also is it a cable from the ESB before it enters the house or from after the metre (on the inside for me) and back out again?

It's big enough, if you've seen the Zappi then it's similar size.

If you're looking for discreet then it's probably not the best option unless you have a side passage or hedges you can hide it in

jogdish · 13-06-2021 08:39PM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

It's big enough, if you've seen the Zappi then it's similar size.

If you're looking for discreet then it's probably not the best option unless you have a side passage or hedges you can hide it in

Can anyone recommend a drive way charger set up on a front facing way, cause it's basically pointless unless I can charge at home.

DrPhilG · 13-06-2021 09:12PM

Silent Running wrote: »

Apparently the centre console, the cup holder area, comes out and goes back really easily.

What I've read on the UK Facebook group is that although it comes out easily, it's hot welded together and to get a wrap done properly so it won't peel, you need to take that apart and glue it again after.

Silent Running wrote: »

The door handles are another story and there are tales of little plastic locators breaking off. The thinking is that the door handles are best done in place

The fella that has quoted £200 for alcantara centre is apparently doing a video showing the process which should be helpful. He's also currently sourcing part numbers for the door panels. You can buy the centre console part for about €60 apparently just in case it does horribly wrong.

the_amazing_raisin · 13-06-2021 10:28PM

jogdish wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a drive way charger set up on a front facing way, cause it's basically pointless unless I can charge at home.

You'll probably want an untethered charger then. I've an EO Mini which is small and looks well

Or at least it did unti the missus caught the charging cable under her car and pulled it off the wall

the_amazing_raisin · 13-06-2021 10:31PM

DrPhilG wrote: »

What I've read on the UK Facebook group is that although it comes out easily, it's hot welded together and to get a wrap done properly so it won't peel, you need to take that apart and glue it again after.

The fella that has quoted £200 for alcantara centre is apparently doing a video showing the process which should be helpful. He's also currently sourcing part numbers for the door panels. You can buy the centre console part for about €60 apparently just in case it does horribly wrong.

You could just wrap the areas likely to get dirty and leave the edges in gloss, assuming you can get something that matches reasonably well in colour.

Seems quicker and easier and tbh the wrap is likely to end up wrecked anyway after a couple of years

Maybe a carbon fibre effect or something would work?

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