VW ID.3

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2019 10:38am

Seems to be 2 motors, we know the 180bhp but this article mentions driving the 204ps
"But it did have the middle-sized, 58kWh version of three available battery packs, and the more powerful of two available electric drive motors"

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/id-3/first-drives/volkswagen-id-3-2020-review

Mike9832 · 08-07-2019 10:43am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Seems to be 2 motors, we know the 180bhp but this article mentions driving the 204ps
"But it did have the middle-sized, 58kWh version of three available battery packs, and the more powerful of two available electric drive motors"

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/volkswagen/id-3/first-drives/volkswagen-id-3-2020-review

Makes sense

As VW mentioned an ota software update is available to go from lower power to higher power version, as in hardware is the same,

drunkmonkey · 08-07-2019 12:53pm

That suggests there different motors I doubt it's just software. The R and GTi need to live on past the MK8 golf.

liamog · 08-07-2019 3:12pm

It's probably similar to the Kona, the 39kWh and 64kWh have the same physical motor, but the 39kWh has 100kW (136PS) vs 150kW (204PS)

Round Cable · 08-07-2019 3:25pm

liamog wrote: »

It's probably similar to the Kona, the 39kWh and 64kWh have the same physical motor, but the 39kWh has 100kW (136PS) vs 150kW (204PS)

It's also the same with the Leaf, as the 24kWh (since 2013), 30kWh, 40kWh, and 62kWh versions all have the exact same physical motor. The power electronics and software are the only differences.

slave1 · 08-07-2019 3:44pm

Does the 62 not have a new motor...

Round Cable · 08-07-2019 4:49pm

slave1 wrote: »

Does the 62 not have a new motor...

It has the same EM57 motor as all the variants listed above.

Link: https://www3.nissan.co.jp/vehicles/new/leaf/specifications.html#manual

Also on the looks of the ID.3, it certainly looks very similar to the Leaf from the side profile.

Nedved85 · 08-07-2019 8:24pm

Just watched the AutoCar test drive. My head (my bank account really) is saying I should get a VW ID 3. My heart is saying that I should get a Model 3. 420km on the 58kwh battery, so in reality that'll be 350/360km? Similar range on the Model 3 SR +, but aboout 18k more expensive

Mike9832 · 08-07-2019 9:12pm

Nedved85 wrote: »

Just watched the AutoCar test drive. My head (my bank account really) is saying I should get a VW ID 3. My heart is saying that I should get a Model 3. 420km on the 58kwh battery, so in reality that'll be 350/360km? Similar range on the Model 3 SR +, but aboout 18k more expensive

About 8k more expensive

ID 58kWh will be €40,000

€30,000 might get you a 45kWh with hubcaps in 2021

Nedved85 · 08-07-2019 9:13pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

About 8k more expensive

ID 58kWh will be €40,000

€30,000 might get you a 45kWh with hubcaps in 2021

Huh? I thought it was 40k before incentives?

Mike9832 · 08-07-2019 9:19pm

Nedved85 wrote: »

Huh? I thought it was 40k before incentives?

After unfortunately

They launching 1st edition next year which most here are saying €40,000

Cheaper models to launch months after that model, no details given yet

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/350968/volkswagen-id-3-launch-plans-detail/amp/

Nedved85 · 08-07-2019 9:55pm

Mike9832 wrote: »

After unfortunately

They launching 1st edition next year which most here are saying €40,000

Cheaper models to launch months after that model, no details given yet

https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/350968/volkswagen-id-3-launch-plans-detail/amp/

If that's the case, I'll wait on for the Tesla so.

Shefwedfan · 08-07-2019 11:16pm

Nedved85 wrote: »

If that's the case, I'll wait on for the Tesla so.

Nobody know yet, wait a few months and prices released

Nedved85 · 08-07-2019 11:21pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Nobody know yet, wait a few months and prices released

Will do, not in a position for either right now.

McGiver · 09-07-2019 2:00am

Mike9832 wrote:

ID 58kWh will be â‚¬40,000

ID3 intermediate battery will be 37ish. Without extras.

tooth*grinder · 09-07-2019 12:59pm

unkel wrote: »

It actually works out quite well for people in Ireland as you don't have to pay VRT on upgrades purchased later

Well I think we can all see what's going to happen there.
From there I'd say its only a short jump to taxing phone (and computers etc..) software updates.

Mike9832 · 09-07-2019 1:02pm

McGiver wrote: »

ID3 intermediate battery will be 37ish. Without extras.

Probably

unkel · 09-07-2019 1:17pm

tooth*grinder wrote: »

Well I think we can all see what's going to happen there.
From there I'd say its only a short jump to taxing phone (and computers etc..) software updates.

Nah. People have had dealers installing options like leather seats, sunroofs etc for decades. No VRT was ever paid on these.

CFC007 · 09-07-2019 6:52pm

I was at the sneak peek preview over in Wolfsburg. We got to see the physical ID with the camo and without. Phones were taken from us so no pics. The interior is the same as the El Born with dash and door side panels customizable. The interior lights look good. The car we saw had the two tone seat interior as already shown online. I think up to 3 drivers profiles can be saved. The car itself was much more impressive in the flesh. The hump on the front under the windscreen is for pedestrian safety. It didn’t take too much from the car as it’s much more flat and blends in with car lines. There will be a choice of 8 colours. The white looked very good with the non standard efficiency saving 19” alloys. I just can’t take to those diamond cut wheels. Premium audio which looked like beats audio. Lot of room inside as expected. Was interesting to listen to the head of VW design going through the design process. On screen comparisons were made to the golf and the increased in height and short front helped to create the space inside. On the HUD, we saw a computer demo which looked cool I think it works upto 50 meters away with the projections. Pana roof also looked cool just looked like a black roof.

No further info on delivery, price, OTA updates. Let’s see in September.

Old diesel · 09-07-2019 6:58pm

https://youtu.be/A8cHHNPRg-c

Autocar review of a late prototype.

This same event you were at CFC007????

CFC007 · 09-07-2019 7:03pm

No was just for reservation holders. VW said this was never done before. The Dutch were the most represented, followed by Norway, Poland and Denmark. Was a really cool event and we even got camo ID 3 socks!

Old diesel wrote: »

https://youtu.be/A8cHHNPRg-c

Autocar review of a late prototype.

This same event you were at CFC007????

drunkmonkey · 09-07-2019 7:05pm

When you say the HuD works up to 50 meters away, does it project onto the road or just project onto the window giving information up to 50 meters away.

CFC007 · 09-07-2019 7:10pm

I guess it projects on to the window as the box for it sits on the drivers side behind the cluster built into the dash. Looked like 3D images so you’ll have your arrows for sat nav, speed limit etc

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When you say the HuD works up to 50 meters away, does it project onto the road or just project onto the window giving information up to 50 meters away.

Old diesel · 09-07-2019 7:10pm

Did my link work?????.

I literally just figured out how to do copy and paste on my phone and the link doesn't work at my end in my post.

Not sure if that's to do with me looking at my own post or not

CFC007 · 09-07-2019 7:12pm

Yeah I was able to copy and paste your link into my browser.

Old diesel wrote: »

Did my link work?????.

I literally just figured out how to do copy and paste on my phone and the link doesn't work at my end in my post.

Not sure if that's to do with me looking at my own post or not

pearsefitz · 10-07-2019 12:57am

I was also there. Well described above. The hud display project's to the windscreen but must alter it to overlay direction and speed on ground. So essentially you get speed and directions overlayed on the oncoming road. Its like a bus stop or yield on-road marking but live and roles toward you and then out of site. The colour style of the roof and boot is black for all models. So think two tone is standard(could be wrong) boot seemed deeper virtically, seemed thinner width wise and same dept as my egolf. Attached is pretty much the outside we saw with different wheels. Some other notes were no foot rest in one we sat in, individual arm rests, lepard spots on back pillar and a standard grey colour for skirts, back and front grill. Huge wheels estimated 24 inches.Keyless entry with phone, hud. The parking menu in the screen. Usb ports for back passengers. Amazing time and vw ireland legends for the access we got.