VW ID.3

dmcg90 · 12-06-2021 07:38PM

Silent Running wrote: »

Any ID car ordered now, and for the last good few weeks will be the 2022 model. They start producing them when the factory gets going again after the summer break. That's next week, so any cars not yet built will be 2022 models. They'll have different features, like area view.

The thought is that the new software, 2.3, will be on the new cars from next week and that there'll be an OTA update for existing ID cars. All speculation, of course, but not long to wait to find out.

Area view would be huge for me (hate parking with a passion!). Is that just speculation or have they said it’s coming online?

dmcg90 · 12-06-2021 07:43PM

dmcg90 wrote: »

Area view would be huge for me (hate parking with a passion!). Is that just speculation or have they said it’s coming online?

Looking at the spec sheet, Area View is on the Tour 5 and not the tour (looking at the tour). Argh!

KCross · 12-06-2021 08:15PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

Visiting the local charger will get tedious fairly quickly. Don’t do it.

Sound like aestethics of the charge point will be important for you so just get an untethered one that blends in... EO mini springs to mind or possibly the Andersen( very expensive though) and I’m sure there are plenty others that would suit... there must be some discreet spot it could be located at.

Michael malone · 12-06-2021 08:24PM

So left Waterford at 4:30 this morning, headed to Dublin Airport, approx 155km. Had 100% Battery showing 420km range. Arrived at Dublin Airport with 130km range and approx 20% battery, had the acc set for 120, 3 people in car with luggage for 1, air temp 8c. And occasional air con. That was my first long spin. Thought it was a bit energy hungry. Driving a 211 Family spec. Charged up in Dublin had 350km range, got home with range of 114 left. 120kmph all way home.. a bit disappointed with the range on a long spin. Have 4000km on the clock

KCross · 12-06-2021 08:41PM

How are you all doing on tyres?

I've over 10k km done but the rears are at 2mm already! :eek:

Fronts are just shy of 4mm.

I've the Bridgestone Turanza ECO 18". These ones
They are well rated (A fuel and B grip) but obviously soft.

How are the rest of you doing? Not sure I'll get the same tyres if they disappear after 10k km.

Patmwgs · 12-06-2021 08:44PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

I would not rely on public chargers alone, i was in enniskillen today and only one charger out of four worked and one half of that one was broken . A guy pulled up in a hybrid and said thats the very reason he would not go fully electric yet.

punisher5112 · 12-06-2021 08:47PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

She won't even see it, plenty of ways they can be hidden from view, hedging, timber etc etc ...

TitianGerm · 12-06-2021 08:59PM

Patmwgs wrote: »

I would not rely on public chargers alone, i was in enniskillen today and only one charger out of four worked and one half of that one was broken . A guy pulled up in a hybrid and said thats the very reason he would not go fully electric yet.

What colour is your house? You could get an EO mini without the attached cable and it'd be very discreet.

TitianGerm · 12-06-2021 08:59PM

Patmwgs wrote: »

I would not rely on public chargers alone, i was in enniskillen today and only one charger out of four worked and one half of that one was broken . A guy pulled up in a hybrid and said thats the very reason he would not go fully electric yet.

What colour is your house? You could get an EO mini without the attached cable and it'd be very discreet.

Edit: that was meant for CoBo.

Patmwgs · 12-06-2021 09:02PM

Patmwgs wrote: »

I would not rely on public chargers alone, i was in enniskillen today and only one charger out of four worked and one half of that one was broken . A guy pulled up in a hybrid and said thats the very reason he would not go fully electric yet.

This is my sync ev its very small, the eo mini is about the same size

the_amazing_raisin · 12-06-2021 09:27PM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

There's evidently a lot of folks around Dublin do it, lots of traffic on the 50kW units in some areas

That's tailed off a bit since they introduced charges, but some folks rely on it

I was reliant on public charging when I first got the Leaf, it wasn't great. It would be easier now in the ID.4 since I'd only charge once or twice a week, but still hard to beat the convenience of home charging

Hard to beat the cost too, 50kW rate is 6 times the cheapest night rate of 5c/kWh

I got an EO Mini, very discreet, about the size of small shoe box. If you want as compact as possible go for untethered, this means the charger has a socket and you'll need to plug the charging cable into both the charger and car.

If you have a side passage you can also tuck the charger around there to keep it out of sight

eagerv · 12-06-2021 09:27PM

KCross wrote: »

How are you all doing on tyres?

I've over 10k km done but the rears are at 2mm already! :eek:

Fronts are just shy of 4mm.

I've the Bridgestone Turanza ECO 18". These ones
They are well rated (A fuel and B grip) but obviously soft.

How are the rest of you doing? Not sure I'll get the same tyres if they disappear after 10k km.

Haven't looked recently, but hope not that low on thread.. Will check and report back tomorrow. Any previous complaint I have heard re Bridgestone is that they are a hard tyre but last well.
My own are GoodYear and almost 12k km.

ewj1978 · 12-06-2021 11:30PM

Michael malone wrote: »

So left Waterford at 4:30 this morning, headed to Dublin Airport, approx 155km. Had 100% Battery showing 420km range. Arrived at Dublin Airport with 130km range and approx 20% battery, had the acc set for 120, 3 people in car with luggage for 1, air temp 8c. And occasional air con. That was my first long spin. Thought it was a bit energy hungry. Driving a 211 Family spec. Charged up in Dublin had 350km range, got home with range of 114 left. 120kmph all way home.. a bit disappointed with the range on a long spin. Have 4000km on the clock

cold, yep
motorway speeds, yep
full car, yep
I'd be expecting 330-350km max at those speeds and temp.

13-06-2021 12:02AM

ewj1978 wrote: »

cold, yep
motorway speeds, yep
full car, yep
I'd be expecting 330-350km max at those speeds and temp.

I wouldn't. I'd be expecting what he saw which is 155 travelled + about 114 remaining which is 270km.

You are expecting 16.5kWh consumption at 120kmph. I'd expect 21.5kWh.

It hasn't got a good enough drag coefficient to do what you expect. It'd get closer to your expectation if driven very, very smoothly. The return trip should have been more efficient with a warm battery, drivetrain and slightly lighter car.

CJmasgrande · 13-06-2021 12:25AM

Can someone please clarify what is the cheapest ID3 to buy if I have a 17yr old Petrol BMW for scrappage?

On donedeal I see some garages advertising €29k but seems to be too good to be true?

13-06-2021 01:07AM

There will be a 93kW (motor power) ID3 coming in the near future. I don't know if it will reach Ireland but it is the one that VW promised would come in under €30k before incentives in Germany.
That with a 45kWh(55kwh gross) battery and 7kw AC charging/50kW DC charging will be the cheapest. If they can figure out how to remove the Sat Nav they will but android auto/apple carplay will stay.

ewj1978 · 13-06-2021 06:26AM

CJmasgrande wrote: »

Can someone please clarify what is the cheapest ID3 to buy if I have a 17yr old Petrol BMW for scrappage?

On donedeal I see some garages advertising €29k but seems to be too good to be true?

certain Kerry garage? I say you'd have to ring them and see what they deem as a qualifying scrappage. AFAIK It isn't an Ireland wide scheme.

Cheapest Life edition with haggling would be ~32k. You'd be as well off selling the BMW privately.

Patmwgs · 13-06-2021 07:22AM

Anyone know why acc will almost steer itself around some bends and no assistance on others? And on some bends it says slow to maybe 60kph but the car does not slow on its own.

adunis · 13-06-2021 07:24AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Everyone here seems to be very happy with their cars. Would it be stupid to buy one and use a local 50kw charger and not get a home charger at all? The missus is grumbling about having a charger at the front of the house...

I a word .......Yes

fits · 13-06-2021 07:25AM

ewj1978 wrote: »

certain Kerry garage? I say you'd have to ring them and see what they deem as a qualifying scrappage. AFAIK It isn't an Ireland wide scheme.

Cheapest Life edition with haggling would be ~32k. You'd be as well off selling the BMW privately.

Very hard to sell a 17 year old car. Get all sorts phoning up and goodness knows what it would be used for. I sold an old car like this a few years ago and regretted not just scrapping it afterwards.

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 10:21AM

the_amazing_raisin wrote: »

There's evidently a lot of folks around Dublin do it, lots of traffic on the 50kW units in some areas

That's tailed off a bit since they introduced charges, but some folks rely on it

I was reliant on public charging when I first got the Leaf, it wasn't great. It would be easier now in the ID.4 since I'd only charge once or twice a week, but still hard to beat the convenience of home charging

Hard to beat the cost too, 50kW rate is 6 times the cheapest night rate of 5c/kWh

I got an EO Mini, very discreet, about the size of small shoe box. If you want as compact as possible go for untethered, this means the charger has a socket and you'll need to plug the charging cable into both the charger and car.

If you have a side passage you can also tuck the charger around there to keep it out of sight

Many thanks for the replies lads. You answered my next question, tethered v untethered I didn't know what it meant. I don't have a side entrance but I could put an untethered EO mini in the porch or even on the black raised border between myself and the next door neighbour. The meter is in the porch could the electrician access power from there putting in a separate isolator or does he need to go back to the consumer unit? Oh, I have an electric shower too:D

nkay1985 · 13-06-2021 10:29AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Many thanks for the replies lads. You answered my next question, tethered v untethered I didn't know what it meant. I don't have a side entrance but I could put an untethered EO mini in the porch or even on the black raised border between myself and the next door neighbour. The meter is in the porch could the electrician access power from there putting in a separate isolator or does he need to go back to the consumer unit? Oh, I have an electric shower too:D

Mine was installed three weeks ago and the technician said that they're now allowed to go through the meter box so that would be fine. I also have an electric shower.

13-06-2021 10:52AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Many thanks for the replies lads. You answered my next question, tethered v untethered I didn't know what it meant. I don't have a side entrance but I could put an untethered EO mini in the porch or even on the black raised border between myself and the next door neighbour. The meter is in the porch could the electrician access power from there putting in a separate isolator or does he need to go back to the consumer unit? Oh, I have an electric shower too:D

A 230V/16Amp charger cable will get the ID3 from 10 to over 80 percent a few nights a week if you must avoid the unsightly charger but a dumb 7kw charger with SEAI grant is better if you can make it work for you.

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 11:39AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A 230V/16Amp charger cable will get the ID3 from 10 to over 80 percent a few nights a week if you must avoid the unsightly charger but a dumb 7kw charger with SEAI grant is better if you can make it work for you.

Oh, I thought all the chargers mentioned were covered by the grant or did you mean the granny cable for 230v/16A?

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 11:40AM

nkay1985 wrote: »

Mine was installed three weeks ago and the technician said that they're now allowed to go through the meter box so that would be fine. I also have an electric shower.

Do you need an extra unit to prevent both running together? Shower/EV.

13-06-2021 11:46AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Oh, I thought all the chargers mentioned were covered by the grant or did you mean the granny cable for 230v/16A?

granny cable.

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 11:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

granny cable.

Cheers.

KCross · 13-06-2021 11:54AM

CoBo55 wrote: »

Many thanks for the replies lads. You answered my next question, tethered v untethered I didn't know what it meant. I don't have a side entrance but I could put an untethered EO mini in the porch or even on the black raised border between myself and the next door neighbour. The meter is in the porch could the electrician access power from there putting in a separate isolator or does he need to go back to the consumer unit? Oh, I have an electric shower too:D

This might be a better conversation in the charge point thread but is your house wiring quite old... meter inside the house sounds like it might be?

You might need a survey/check from electrician first to decide what’s possible. You might have to do remedial work first.

Regardless, since you have an electric shower you definitely should get a load sensing charge point. It will negate the need for a priority switch and is a much better long term solution.

CoBo55 · 13-06-2021 12:00PM

KCross wrote: »

This might be a better conversation in the charge point thread but is your house wiring quite old... meter inside the house sounds like it might be?

You might need a survey/check from electrician first to decide what’s possible. You might have to do remedial work first.

Regardless, since you have an electric shower you definitely should get a load sensing charge point. It will negate the need for a priority switch and is a much better long term solution.

The house was built in 1994 so should be ok that way, the meter is in the porch not in the house itself. I had read about needing something extra if you had an electric shower. The load sensing charge point would ideal as they would rarely clash but you know yourself Murphy’s law etc:pac: I won’t derail the thread any further. Thanks to everyone.

jogdish · 13-06-2021 12:06PM

Finding hard to get information on the ID charger. Does anyone have this charger at their home, picture/video how big is it ? Would need to be on a front facing wall of the driveway here, kinda worried how much of an eyesore it would be. Are there clever ways to hide it ? Also is it a cable from the ESB before it enters the house or from after the metre (on the inside for me) and back out again?

VW ID.3

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