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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • #352
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,162 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Igotadose wrote: »
    And if my spouse reacts to the vaccine (unlikely), I get to leave her at home in a couple days for an unnecessary lengthy trip in the car.

    Get over yourself.

    They really cannot be expected to cater for couples / partners / families / brothers at the same time . Seriously this a a massive endeavour and it is running amazingly well I must say .
    Honestly just be glad you are both getting a vaccine that will get you out and about once again thankfully
    The site does have a glitch regarding updates on appointments but that’s a minor issue


  • #353
    PmMeUrDogs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Igotadose wrote: »
    And if my spouse reacts to the vaccine (unlikely), I get to leave her at home in a couple days for an unnecessary lengthy trip in the car.

    Get over yourself.

    Same way anyone has to do things like go to work, mind their children, do food shopping, etc, even on the off chance that the vaccinated person they live with has a reaction?


    I understand it's annoying to do the drive twice but it's not a big deal, you're both being vaccinated so happy days


  • #354
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,550 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    I think this stemming from that party a few weeks ago.
    https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/youghal-school-confirm-more-coronavirus-20526752


  • #355
    LineOfBeauty
    Registered Users Posts: 2,211 ✭✭✭LineOfBeauty


    Probably a dumb question but I've not been tested yet. I want to get 1 this evening. It says the only walk in testing centres available in Dublin atm are in Blanchardstown and Ballymun, is there any others open or is it a case of mobile centres that change every few days?


  • #356
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Things back to normal by August says Leo.

    Huge sections of the population are dreading it. They are enjoying the lockdown and the drama.


  • #357
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,628 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Things back to normal by August says Leo.

    Huge sections of the population are dreading it. They are enjoying the lockdown and the drama.

    Where as some seem to fetish over the idea that people think that way.


  • #358
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Things back to normal by August says Leo.

    Huge sections of the population are dreading it. They are enjoying the lockdown and the drama.

    "... the vast majority of restrictions you would hope to see gone.”

    Fairly vague, though he did mention "a pretty normal Christmas in terms of seeing our friends and our relations.”
    I expect another winter lockdown, but I'd be over the moon if things were this good in the winter.


  • #359
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    "... the vast majority of restrictions you would hope to see gone.”

    Fairly vague, though he did mention "a pretty normal Christmas in terms of seeing our friends and our relations.”
    I expect another winter lockdown, but I'd be over the moon if things were this good in the winter.


    Why do expect another winter lock down?


  • #360
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Igotadose wrote: »
    FWIW

    My wife is a year older and registered the day it opened for her. Got her appointment text a week later.
    The next day, I could register and did.

    Fast forward nearly 2 weeks: Wife's appointment in Tralee is tomorrow. I've not heard anything since I registered. As we were trying to both go the same day for our shots, I logged into the website to see what the status of my appointment was.

    Well, well.
    I in fact HAVE an appointment, for Saturday. I went through the 'consent' part of the dialog, filled in the little medical questionnaire, no problem.

    I called the number to see if I could reschedule for tomorrow so we don't have to make 2 long trips to Tralee, potentially with my wife not feeling well due to the vaccine tomorrow. No chance, the laminated binder jockey said hundreds of thousands trying to reschedule and all they could do was push my appointment out.

    What's so scary here, is if I hadn't decided to log in, I wouldn't have found out about my appointment. I expect this is affecting other people, nothing exceptional about my signup experience.

    So, if you've signed up, I'd log in and check your appointment status. They're obviously (HSE!) dropping the ball on sending out the notifications.

    The next time you are on hold, trying to get through to the HSE, remember it is because someone like this is on giving out that he can't get vaccinated with his wife.


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  • #361
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Why do expect another winter lock down?

    Because it's seasonal, and people's immunity is naturally down a bit in winter.
    I mean, we're basically in level 5 now and the cases are miniscule, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were under restrictions then.

    It'll hinge a lot on how people's protection holds up from their vaccinations, and if they've been topped up at the right time to give them protection through the winter.

    There will always be some cases around, and I suspect a lot of vaccinated people will let their guards down around socializing indoors etc. once jabbed.

    I hope to be proved wrong


  • #362
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    I suspect a lot of vaccinated people will let their guards down around socializing indoors etc. once jabbed.

    As they should... what is the point of a vaccine if we intend to live like there is none?


  • #363
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    mloc123 wrote: »
    As they should... what is the point of a vaccine if we intend to live like there is none?

    It doesn't confer 100% immunity, and vaccinated people can still spread it to some degree.

    It should reduce severity of disease, but I'll certainly be exercising caution around medically vulnerable/elderly.

    Don't forget either, many people are unable to get vaccinated at all, and they are quite often very vulnerable.


  • #364
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    It doesn't confer 100% immunity, and vaccinated people can still spread it to some degree.

    It should reduce severity of disease, but I'll certainly be exercising caution around medically vulnerable/elderly.

    Don't forget either, many people are unable to get vaccinated at all, and they are quite often very vulnerable.

    You living like that from here on out ?


  • #365
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    You living like that from here on out ?

    Until the facts change, yes.

    I generally do as I please, and exercise caution around vulnerable people.
    My age group are not affected by it so I still mingle with them outside/with proper ventilation.


  • #366
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,205 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    Because it's seasonal, and people's immunity is naturally down a bit in winter.
    I mean, we're basically in level 5 now and the cases are miniscule, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were under restrictions then.
    I think the vaccine data is looking better & better all the time. We might still have some restrictions (e.g. table-service only in pubs, people encouraged to wear masks or work from home), but I think it's looking increasingly unlikely that we will have severe restrictions for Winter.

    The problem we'll have is that the Health Service is always running at 100% for Flu during Winter, and even a small extra few Covid cases would push it over the top. I don't however think that is sufficient reason to impose hugely damaging restrictions on the rest of the economy, if we can get a large proportion of the population vaccinated it's unlikely we will see out-of-control spread (hopefully).


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  • #367
    [Deleted User]
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    hmmm wrote: »
    I think the vaccine data is looking better & better all the time. We might still have some restrictions (e.g. table-service only in pubs, people encouraged to wear masks or work from home), but I think it's looking increasingly unlikely that we will have severe restrictions for Winter.

    The problem we'll have is that the Health Service is always running at 100% for Flu during Winter, and even a small extra few Covid cases would push it over the top. I don't however think that is sufficient reason to impose hugely damaging restrictions on the rest of the economy, if we can get a large proportion of the population vaccinated it's unlikely we will see out-of-control spread (hopefully).

    Work from home as much as possible...maybe masks in some public areas.

    But table service only? That’s a non runner. Much of hospitality will go under with those kind of restrictions.


  • #368
    bennyineire
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    hmmm wrote: »
    I think the vaccine data is looking better & better all the time. We might still have some restrictions (e.g. table-service only in pubs, people encouraged to wear masks or work from home), but I think it's looking increasingly unlikely that we will have severe restrictions for Winter.

    The problem we'll have is that the Health Service is always running at 100% for Flu during Winter, and even a small extra few Covid cases would push it over the top. I don't however think that is sufficient reason to impose hugely damaging restrictions on the rest of the economy, if we can get a large proportion of the population vaccinated it's unlikely we will see out-of-control spread (hopefully).

    The flu has all but been eradicated though as a side affect of the restrictions, flu season will be very mild this winter, no doubt flu will come back but it will be another couple of years before it'll come back in a meaningful way


  • #369
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,917 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    They have got some mileage out of that promised day

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1389943026429091847


  • #370
    Bit cynical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    bennyineire wrote: »
    The flu has all but been eradicated though as a side affect of the restrictions, flu season will be very mild this winter, no doubt flu will come back but it will be another couple of years before it'll come back in a meaningful way
    I'm not an epedemiologist but I don't think the restrictions that we've had will have any effect on future flu outbreaks unless the restrictions themselves come back. The reason for this is that restrictions only keep the reproduction number below 1 for the duration of those restrictions. As soon as people go back to their normal pattern the R number returns to its normal level.


  • #371
    Rambling Man
    Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭Rambling Man


    435 positive swabs, 2.24% positivity on 19,406 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 2.7%


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  • #372
    h2005
    Registered Users Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭h2005


    Igotadose wrote: »
    FWIW

    My wife is a year older and registered the day it opened for her. Got her appointment text a week later.
    The next day, I could register and did.

    Fast forward nearly 2 weeks: Wife's appointment in Tralee is tomorrow. I've not heard anything since I registered. As we were trying to both go the same day for our shots, I logged into the website to see what the status of my appointment was.

    Well, well.
    I in fact HAVE an appointment, for Saturday. I went through the 'consent' part of the dialog, filled in the little medical questionnaire, no problem.

    I called the number to see if I could reschedule for tomorrow so we don't have to make 2 long trips to Tralee, potentially with my wife not feeling well due to the vaccine tomorrow. No chance, the laminated binder jockey said hundreds of thousands trying to reschedule and all they could do was push my appointment out.

    What's so scary here, is if I hadn't decided to log in, I wouldn't have found out about my appointment. I expect this is affecting other people, nothing exceptional about my signup experience.

    So, if you've signed up, I'd log in and check your appointment status. They're obviously (HSE!) dropping the ball on sending out the notifications.

    I'm shocked they didn't facilitate your request.


  • #373
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    bennyineire wrote: »
    The flu has all but been eradicated though as a side affect of the restrictions, flu season will be very mild this winter, no doubt flu will come back but it will be another couple of years before it'll come back in a meaningful way

    I was thinking similarly. With flu not being given a chance to circulate and the vaccines severely reducing the impact of Covid, there's a decent chance that the coming winter will be the "easiest" hospitals have encountered in quite some time.


  • #374
    marno21
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,500 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Widespread uptake of flu vaccination should help also.

    The only way to keep pressure off hospitals in Winter is widespread immunisation against flu and Covid-19. Not more lockdowns


  • #375
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    marno21 wrote: »
    Widespread uptake of flu vaccination should help also.

    The only way to keep pressure off hospitals in Winter is widespread immunization against flu and Covid-19. Not more lockdowns

    Myself and kids got flu jab for the first time this year, as COVID made me more aware of disease in general and vaccinations. I'd say we will continue again this year so maybe a long-term benefit of COVID is people's willingness to take flu jab and overall cases will be lower going forward.


  • #376
    Westernyelp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Igotadose wrote:
    And if my spouse reacts to the vaccine (unlikely), I get to leave her at home in a couple days for an unnecessary lengthy trip in the car.

    Igotadose wrote:
    Get over yourself.

    Take your vaccine and be thankful for it is my advice


  • #377
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Deleted User wrote: »
    While I do think that restrictions went too far, it’s hard to fathom the intelligence (or lack thereof) of people who post stuff like this, as they are laying out all the evidence of why restrictions were a good thing at the same time as ranting against them

    It’s something that whooshes way over the heads of those on the conspiracy forum

    It is old tactic to try to insult someone when you do not have argument.
    Explain to me how is it possible that western countries with supposedly supreme healthcare and most stringent lockdowns fared much worse than third world countries or what we call developing nations with practically zero healthcare and restrictions or lockdowns.


  • #378
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    Because it's seasonal, and people's immunity is naturally down a bit in winter.
    I mean, we're basically in level 5 now and the cases are miniscule, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were under restrictions then.

    It'll hinge a lot on how people's protection holds up from their vaccinations, and if they've been topped up at the right time to give them protection through the winter.

    There will always be some cases around, and I suspect a lot of vaccinated people will let their guards down around socializing indoors etc. once jabbed.

    I hope to be proved wrong

    The purpose of lockdown was to control the virus as much as possible while vaccines were developed and administered.

    It’s difficult to see what the purpose of locking down would be when people are vaccinated? The country is haemorrhaging money and we can’t just lock down forever in a bizarre attempt to prevent death.

    I do think counselling will be required for people that are too afraid to return to normality though.


  • #379
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Were you terrified, patnor?

    I can say that everyone was terrified in the first lockdown as I was going to and from work on empty streets not seeing a soul outside first week. That was when internet was full of clips showing people dropping dead on the streets and mayhem in Italy.
    Only that people start seeing things for what they are. People were not dropping dead and bodies did not pile up on streets and videos from Italy only showed what is going on there almost every time there is bad flu strain circulating in those regions.
    Fast-forward to today when we are still in lockdown but traffic is pretty much on par of what it used to be before, only that we cant go to certain shops, restaurants or pubs.


  • #380
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    Because it's seasonal, and people's immunity is naturally down a bit in winter.
    I mean, we're basically in level 5 now and the cases are miniscule, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if we were under restrictions then.

    It'll hinge a lot on how people's protection holds up from their vaccinations, and if they've been topped up at the right time to give them protection through the winter.

    There will always be some cases around, and I suspect a lot of vaccinated people will let their guards down around socializing indoors etc. once jabbed.

    I hope to be proved wrong


    I dont think there is any question that the vaccines are working and are continuing to work and there is no evidence that immunity is fading in fact it can be seen that the vaccines are even eliciting killer T cell response which is good for long term immunity. Even looking at the figures today everything is going in the right direction. The idea of vaccination is to allow people back to a normal life and as we will all vaccinated by winter I assume that the winter will be relatively normal.

    https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1389222590615597063


  • #381
    kleiner feigling
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭kleiner feigling


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The purpose of lockdown was to control the virus as much as possible while vaccines were developed and administered.

    It’s difficult to see what the purpose of locking down would be when people are vaccinated? The country is haemorrhaging money and we can’t just lock down forever in a bizarre attempt to prevent death.

    I couldn't agree more, I think lockdown should have been eased significantly by now, and I think the shutting of retail all year was contemptible.

    This government has made many mistakes, and given how bad our health services are I foresee a relatively small number of cases in winter scaring the government into more of the same drastic measures.

    Fingers crossed it doesn't go that way.


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  • #382
    Akabusi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭Akabusi


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    It is old tactic to try to insult someone when you do not have argument.
    Explain to me how is it possible that western countries with supposedly supreme healthcare and most stringent lockdowns fared much worse than third world countries or what we call developing nations with practically zero healthcare and restrictions or lockdowns.

    You are aware of what is happening in India at the moment and previously happened in Brazil?


  • #383
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Igotadose wrote: »


    Bull. I just got my notification *today* for an appointment *Saturday.* Their website said at least 4 days in advance. Oops, that's 3 days away.
    .

    The confirmation I got said notification will be 3 to 7 days.

    You seem to want a system created to suit your particular circumstances.
    Just get, or don't get, the vaccine but don't expect to jump the queue just because your wife's in a different date.
    We're very similar here but will each go when appointed.


  • #384
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Yeah my parents signed up within minutes of each other (both the same age), Dad got his appointment for the Monday (had registered Friday morning) and Mum got hers for Tuesday. Just how they do it I guess. I had to bring Mum down and the only gripe I'd have about the centre was they were an hour behind on appointments meaning there was a fairly big queue. Luckily as Mum needed a wheelchair we got in and out a bit quicker but Dad was waiting about an hour and 30 mins for his jab.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #385
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,339 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Akabusi wrote: »
    You are aware of what is happening in India at the moment and previously happened in Brazil?

    Brazil is 13th in the world for deaths per million, India is 114th.


  • #386
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Things back to normal by August says Leo.

    Huge sections of the population are dreading it. They are enjoying the lockdown and the drama.

    The only person who talks about enjoying lockdown is you. Seriously. It’s boring at this stage coming into this thread and seeing the same sh*te over and over again.

    Some people are secretly dreading the lockdown to be over so they can’t throw their noses up at others who wanted to do what was best for them and their families.


  • #387
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Rambling Man wrote: »
    435 positive swabs, 2.24% positivity on 19,406 tests.
    7 day test positivity is 2.7%

    Not bad at all

    The Wednesday effect might be reserved for tomorrow though with the bank holiday this week


  • #388
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    marno21 wrote: »
    Widespread uptake of flu vaccination should help also.


    Do you think that's likely, though? Or is there some push planned for this?


  • #389
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    Eod100 wrote: »
    They have got some mileage out of that promised day

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1389943026429091847

    I wish they brought in a new bank holiday going forward. One in July every year would be nice. I think we deserve it after going through all this.


  • #390
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,022 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    RGARDINR wrote: »


    I wish they brought in a new bank holiday going forward. One in July every year would be nice. I think we deserve it after going through all this.

    I think mid to end September would be nice myself. That or in mid February.


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  • #391
    Working class heroes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Let’s move paddy’s day to September, just for this year.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • #392
    RGARDINR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,149 ✭✭✭RGARDINR


    titan18 wrote: »
    I think mid to end September would be nice myself. That or in mid February.

    Be nice anytime if we get it. I just find July a very long month. Nice to be off when kids off from school and weather maybe decent.


  • #393
    thebronze14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 632 ✭✭✭thebronze14


    Eod100 wrote: »
    They have got some mileage out of that promised day

    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1389943026429091847
    THought we were getting two this summer alright:D


  • #394
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    kleiner feigling wrote: »
    It doesn't confer 100% immunity, and vaccinated people can still spread it to some degree.

    It should reduce severity of disease, but I'll certainly be exercising caution around medically vulnerable/elderly.

    Don't forget either, many people are unable to get vaccinated at all, and they are quite often very vulnerable.

    We'll be moving to a new phase where the health service can manage the level of deaths.

    The vaccines won't stop death and vulnerable people will still die. But once hospitals can cope with the numbers, it's important for society to move on.


  • #395
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    RTE now have their own simple version of the various dashboards - this link is to vaccinations to date.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/summary/#!/vaccinations


  • #396
    frank8211
    Registered Users Posts: 306 ✭✭frank8211


    The old meat factories continue to be a problem as well as schools:
    https://www.anglocelt.ie/2021/05/04/covid-outbreak-closes-mccarrens/
    https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/arid-40281629.html


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  • #397
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    418 cases, seven further deaths.

    Of the deaths notified today, five occurred last month, one in February and one in January.


  • #398
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,206 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    is_that_so wrote: »
    RTE now have their own simple version of the various dashboards - this link is to vaccinations to date.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/summary/#!/vaccinations

    But only 1,350 people in Cohort 7?


  • #399
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Lumen wrote: »
    But only 1,350 people in Cohort 7?
    At the point the data was captured? That whole Group 4/7 approach is a mystery!


  • #400
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,162 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Lumen wrote: »
    But only 1,350 people in Cohort 7?

    I keep banging this drum . Cohort 7 are being let down badly . The HSE has to sort that out before they do anything else


  • #401
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Lumen wrote: »
    But only 1,350 people in Cohort 7?

    They aren't cohort sizes. They are the total doses administered per cohort. In other words, 1,350 doses have been administered in Cohort 7. Of these 2 were a second dose and 1,348 were a first dose.


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