COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

funnydoggy wrote: »

Tomas Ryan trying to stay relevant by bombarding media outlets saying that the government won't have mass vaccinations by April. He's probably right, but nobody said this would be the case. He wants a NPHET position for the next pandemic, IMO.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-will-be-nowhere-near-widespread-vaccination-by-april-tomas-ryan-1155791

Ryan and O'Neill must have some scraps in the Trinity staff canteen!

Edit: Sorry, it's Trinity....so dining hall!:)

brickster69 wrote: »

Tragic really. Imagine 1.4 million of the worlds most vulnerable could be protected from death and they are collecting dust in fridges.


https://twitter.com/Beaking_News/status/1364844476565516290

I’m not convinced by AZ either if I’m honest due to the reduced protection against the SA variant and questionable data. Added to that it’s not in Luke O Neills top 5 on Twitter yesterday and I tend to trust his opinion

Gael23 wrote: »

I’m not convinced by AZ either if I’m honest due to the reduced protection against the SA variant and questionable data. Added to that it’s not in Luke O Neills top 5 on Twitter yesterday and I tend to trust his opinion

I'm not convinced by astra zenaca either. I suspect the people who get it will need another vaccine as a booster.

That said I'm in favour of sticking it in people's arms getting some benefit and getting us out of this a little earlier.

titan18 wrote: »

Tbf, if they or other countries aren't willing to use them (and I'd imagine they're doing a similar priority list as us so maybe they need to open that up a bit first), they should move them to other EU countries who will use them. Other countries can then divert later vaccines to the countries who aren't using AZ.

EU should put in a use them or your next shipments get diverted sort of policy for each vaccine.

I don't see why anyone should give up later vaccine supplies to replace the AZ the Germans are refusing to use. It is giving in to their stubbornness and even rewarding it. I understand that there are still some question marks over aspects of the AZ vaccine but it is proven to be safe and effective, there is no reason for them to be sitting unused.

They are free to do what they want with their allocation and if someone agrees to do a trade then fair enough but I wouldn't like to see the Irish government offer that. We should be keeping all of our allocation, particularly mRNA. If we can get German AZ doses then great but I certainly wouldn't be giving up mRNA to get it.

ixoy wrote: »

AZ seems fine for the most import part: preventing critical cases / death.
Would I prefer to get one of the other vaccines? Sure, but as someone else said:

If you are offered any of the vaccines, take it. Wringing your hands about the difference between 85% and 95% effectiveness is a waste of time when you are 100% vulnerable.

Exactly give out whatever we can now and then if Pfizer is proved to be best, but more and top people up.

funnydoggy wrote: »

Tomas Ryan trying to stay relevant by bombarding media outlets saying that the government won't have mass vaccinations by April. He may be right or wrong, but nobody said this would be the case. He wants a NPHET position for the next pandemic, IMO.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/ireland-will-be-nowhere-near-widespread-vaccination-by-april-tomas-ryan-1155791

I'd be surprised at the Government if they appointed a neuroscientist to NPHET to deal with Covid. I'm astounded at the amount of media attention given to an extremist like this. He's spent the week trying to discredit the Government, stop schools reopening, play down vaccines and play up variants from California and elsewhere.

Deleted User wrote: »

I really hope Luke O'Neill isn't ranking vaccines. That can be done in years to come.

He isn't. He just retweeted Eric Topol, who had listed 5 vaccines with 100% protection against severe disease in their phase III trials.

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah okay, did AZ not make the list? I though they didn't have any severe disease in trials. J & J and one case in Pfizer, were the only ones I thought had severe disease in vaccine group.

https://twitter.com/laoneill111/status/1364726483974053889

This was the tweet. O'Neill actually says severe disease, while Topol say's hospitalisations and death. Not sure why AZ aren't there if they were also 100%??

brickster69 wrote: »

FDA data for J&J

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1364911005818621954

I did feel that the single shot might be a little ambitious. There are still trials of j&j with two doses to report.

As said by others this is related to over 60s who will be done by the time this is approved.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

HSE briefing on,
Paul Reid - " We're on track to deliver over 100,000 vaccinations this week "

Reid - 92,000 next week

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364942069354135553

Apogee wrote: »

Reid - 92,000 next week

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364942069354135553

Lines up with the schedule. All good news.

https://twitter.com/FineGael/status/1364289259788791809?s=20

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Building back up a small buffer to account for dose 2 of the over 85s, over 80s to begin first week in March so makes sense to account for dose 2 of the 85s which will be due in next 2-5 weeks.

And help coming for rural GPs, especially those who can't buddy up, with an email system for making orders. And HSE will contact those GPs who've yet to touch base.

Apogee wrote: »

And help coming for rural GPs, especially those who can't buddy up, with an email system for making orders. And HSE will contact those GPs who've yet to touch base.

I found that last comment a little odd, would have thought all GPs would have been in contact to secure supply, feedback data etc

How do you have 38 close contacts with 72 hours at any stage of your life

Nevermind during a pandemic