COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

Sky King

The question is, if there are countries with hundreds of thousands or even millions of vaccines sitting in the fridge, will they keep getting supplied with more, or will they divert some of that sweet sweet candaaay our way!?

Micky 32

RTE ‘s new doom and gloom main headline on the app:

One case of ‘concerning’ variant indentified in Ireland


“Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory Dr Cillian de Gascun has said one case of the B1525 variant which was first identified in December in the UK and Nigeria has been confirmed in Ireland.”

hmmm

Micky 32 wrote: »

RTE ‘s new doom and gloom main headline on the app:

“Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory Dr Cillian de Gascun has said one case of the B1525 variant which was first identified in December in the UK and Nigeria has been confirmed in Ireland.”

It's beyond a joke now, I've been trying not to say anything. This is not good enough from a national broadcaster.

The drop in cases in nursing homes is my personal highlight of the day, not some random variant from scunthorpe or dunshauglin or where-ever we are finding them.

Turtwig

Micky 32 wrote: »

RTE ‘s new doom and gloom main headline on the app:

“Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory Dr Cillian de Gascun has said one case of the B1525 variant which was first identified in December in the UK and Nigeria has been confirmed in Ireland.”

That is pathetic.

NPHET's briefing today was actually really positive and that's the headline they go with? De Gascun himself was very positive about vaccines.

Jeez, no wonder I have to spend so much time reassuring family members. Wtf is it like it for people who live in the RTE bubble?

stephenjmcd

Micky 32 wrote: »

RTE ‘s new doom and gloom main headline on the app:

“Director of the National Virus Reference Laboratory Dr Cillian de Gascun has said one case of the B1525 variant which was first identified in December in the UK and Nigeria has been confirmed in Ireland.”

From the whole press conference that's what they took out of it.... bloody hell. It was one of if not the most positive press conference in a long time, lots of great vaccine news and they come out with this.

I also see the california variant got a shout out on the rte article, Geroge just kept banging on about it when he didn't get an answer he liked

embraer170

They really should divert more doses to countries using their vaccines. The situation in Germany is shocking. A friend there went to their doctor today (private specialist) who would be happy to take any vaccine including AZ but has not been offered one.

Caquas

embraer170 wrote: »

Ireland is doing exceptionally well on the vaccine roll out. See the attached image from an FT article today. Google "EU vaccine woes shift from supply squeeze to rollout" to read the story.

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly on the roll-out of vaccines, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered in the EU (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for that SNAFU? Why did other countries, including those with comparable populations get so much more?

MerlinSouthDub

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for the SNAFU?

Your numbers are wrong. Up to Monday, we had administered 360,000 doses. Up to today, it's probably close to 400,000.

Turtwig

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for the SNAFU?

The graph clearly shows we are using the supplies as we get them. This is far from a SNAFU. In fact, globally we're in a position of real privilege. We'll have the population vaccinated this year and we have a tangible way out of this mess. Even if you gave everyone on this Island right now their first dose you'd still require the lockdown for another 2-4 weeks anyway. Logistically, there's no way around the current lockdown schedules. We're going as fast as we can.

eoinbn

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly on the roll-out of vaccines, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered in the EU (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for that SNAFU? Why did other countries, including those with similar populations get so much more?

The chart isn't hard to read....

Cork2021

People are going to end this not the politicians. First poll since last year that has got people on the side of open up to fûck

https://twitter.com/irishtimes/status/1365040287077326852?s=21

blackcard

Apogee wrote: »

Vaccine forecasted supply from the updated government plan:
https://t.co/yTVEpN0HjE?amp=1

KrustyUCC wrote: »

I know of at least 3 in Cork and 2 in Limerick

I don't know how widespread the issue is

"In relation to vaccine deliveries to GPs, Paul Reid said there have been some issues, particularly in the last 48 hours.

He said there has been issues this week relating to delivery, particularly for some rural GPs, describing the process as "complex".

He said there is "a lot of discussion going on" between the HSE and GP representatives to work through some of the issues."

As I said I really hope these issues get smoothed out as if we're having issues trying to sort 100,000 vaccines a week those issues could be multiplied when we're trying to get 250,000 or 300,000 a week done

It truly baffles me why they didn't put Joe Duffy in charge of the vaccine roll out provided of course that he would accept the big pay cut. Joe has all the answers based on his dismissive attitude towards issues.
Every country in the world is going to have issues dealing with a roll out the scale of which has never been attempted before. However, this shouldn't blind us to the overall positive picture

VG31

hmmm wrote: »

It's beyond a joke now, I've been trying not to say anything. This is not good enough from a national broadcaster.

The drop in cases in nursing homes is my personal highlight of the day, not some random variant from scunthorpe or dunshauglin or where-ever we are finding them.

No doubt we'll be here late this year/next year hearing about the "concerning" new Darndale variant.

brickster69

AZ and over 70's

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/no-one-in-government-has-appetite-to-push-back-against-holohan-1.4477368

Turtwig

Cork2021 wrote: »

People are going to end this not the politicians. First poll since last year that has got people on the side of open up to fûck

https://twitter.com/irishtimes/status/1365040287077326852?s=21

That poll does not suggest people are on the side of open up to fck.

In fact, it quite clearly shows a majority for cautious reopening until all risk vulnerable groups are vaccinated. Which is the timeline the government seem to have indicated anyway.

All that poll really shows is nobody believes in zero covid. (Sorry Sam)

Le Bruise

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Your numbers are wrong. Up to Monday, we had administered 360,000 doses. Up to today, it's probably close to 400,000.

Pretty sure that poster has just popped in for a wind up!?

VG31

embraer170 wrote: »

Ireland is doing exceptionally well on the vaccine roll out. See the attached image from an FT article today. Google "EU vaccine woes shift from supply squeeze to rollout" to read the story.

Hopefully this a sign that the AZ vaccine scepticism hasn't gained much ground here.

hmmm

Caquas wrote: »

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for the SNAFU?

Vaccines with 90%+ efficacy have been produced, tested, and deployed within a year for a new virus. It's unbelievable, and one of the greatest scientific achievements ever which will probably lead to multiple Nobel prizes as a consequence.

Now we have to wait for them to be produced, and in the background there is an unprecedented effort by teams of engineers to stand up vaccine manufacturing plants to produce the billions of vaccines necessary to vaccinate the world.

And you're giving out that everything is too slow?

Cork2021

Turtwig wrote: »

That poll does not suggest people are on the side of open up to fck.

In fact, it quite clearly shows a majority for cautious reopening until all risk vulnerable groups are vaccinated. Which is the timeline the government seem to have indicated anyway.

All that poll really shows is nobody believes in zero covid. (Sorry Sam)

They want to open up quicker then what’s being suggested by government/NPHET, more cautious in terms of hospitality alright

astrofool

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly on the roll-out of vaccines, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered in the EU (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for that SNAFU? Why did other countries, including those with comparable populations get so much more?

It is scary how factually wrong you are, hopefully you're not spreading this information to other people you talk to. I highly recommend you learn how to read graphs and numbers as quickly as possible.

embraer170

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly on the roll-out of vaccines, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered in the EU (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for that SNAFU? Why did other countries, including those with comparable populations get so much more?

Your numbers are totally wrong. Look at the latest ECDC data:
https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/vaccine-roll-out-overview

Vaccine uptake for the first dose among adults aged 18 years and above (%) in EU/EEA Member States

Denmark 6%
Ireland 5.4%

Stark

Cork2021 wrote: »

People are going to end this not the politicians. First poll since last year that has got people on the side of open up to fûck

https://twitter.com/irishtimes/status/1365040287077326852?s=21

There's a significant enough minority whose views are wtf. Like 28% of people want non-essential retail closed until after summer!? Must be nice to lead such a sheltered life.

Cork2021

Stark wrote: »

There's a significant enough minority whose views are wtf. Like 28% of people want non-essential retail closed until after summer!? Must be nice to lead such a sheltered life.

Yeah noticed that, seems to be plenty that don’t want hospitality open until very late in the year even though 68% want to open once all the vulnerable are vaccinated...

iamwhoiam

Irish Times saying differently


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-poll-strong-support-for-reopening-society-as-soon-as-possible-1.4495298?mode=amp

Stheno

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Irish Times saying differently


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-poll-strong-support-for-reopening-society-as-soon-as-possible-1.4495298?mode=amp

Eh. Its the same article?

Wolf359f

Caquas wrote: »

We're not doing OK - we're doing very badly on the roll-out of vaccines, but statistics are a wonderful thing.

We have the lowest number of doses administered in the EU (apart from the minnows like Lux. and Estonia). Look at Denmark, their population is just 20% larger but they have administered four times as many doses (176K. v. 552K.). If we were like the Danes, we would have vaccinated almost half a million by now. Instead, we will be at level 5 for another six weeks and who know how long more?

Is is no consolation to be told that our problem is we have not received sufficient doses. Who is responsible for that SNAFU? Why did other countries, including those with comparable populations get so much more?

176k is the figure for Lithuania, so you best read the table again and then maybe think again on how Ireland are doing in the rollout.

astrofool

Stheno wrote: »

Eh. Its the same article?

Necro

Mod:

Ok folks, can we move on from the restrictions discussion in this thread please, let's keep it for the thread topic. Thanks

iamwhoiam

Stheno wrote: »

Eh. Its the same article?

Its behind a paywall . Sorry i just read the headline that majority want things opened

Micky 32

A positive qoute for a Thursday evening:

When asked if we are likely to have herd immunity by the end of the year, Dr Glynn said "certainly".