COVID-19: Vaccine and testing procedures Megathread Part 3 - Read OP

hynesie08 · 24-02-2021 02:37PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

FDA have deemed J&J vaccine to be safe and effective, approval is imminent in the USA

Are they actually saying they can get 20 million by the end of March? That's a game changer.

Stark · 24-02-2021 02:39PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Are they actually saying they can get 20 million by the end of March? That's a game changer.

Who's saying that? US or EU?

KrustyUCC · 24-02-2021 02:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

FDA have deemed J&J vaccine to be safe and effective, approval is imminent in the USA

Now hopefully the EMA will have a speedy approval as well

BrianD3 · 24-02-2021 02:40PM

titan18 wrote: »

I think it definitely makes sense for them in the border counties in particular. Both for travel for their own citizens and ours coming in and working there. You likely have people living in Letterkenny, Dundalk etc working in the North so i'd imagine they'd ideally like to vaccinate at least anyone working in the North but living in the South

Yep, and Donegal and Cavan seem to be doing much better in terms of cases relative to other counties than they were for much of the pandemic. Monaghan also doing better but still near the bottom of the class.

UK vaccination programme already helping us?

hynesie08 · 24-02-2021 02:40PM

Stark wrote: »

Who's saying that? US or EU?

J and j are saying 20 million doses to the US by Q1 end. That's great if true

24-02-2021 02:52PM

How will travel work say if 2 parents are vaccinated but have children under 16? I presume tests will be needed for the children? Or would mandatory quarantine still be needed?

Or is it likely the vaccines will be approved for children by then?

seamie78 · 24-02-2021 02:53PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

J and j are saying 20 million doses to the US by Q1 end. That's great if true

why is that great? maybe it comes from the Eus supply, the ones sent to the US for packaging

Irish Stones · 24-02-2021 02:53PM

Sconsey wrote: »

You are completely wrong. An un-named source in the EU claimed AZ would miss their numbers by 50%, AstraZenica never said anything. AZ have since come out and denied the claim is true.

I reported what I have read and heard, so someone else is wrong.
The fact that AZ denies the claim doesn't mean it's true. Just like anybody else they can say what they want.

hynesie08 · 24-02-2021 02:54PM

seamie78 wrote: »

why is that great? maybe it comes from the Eus supply, the ones sent to the US for packaging

Because 20 million more people will be vaccinated? Are we only allowed be happy about ireland?

seamie78 · 24-02-2021 02:57PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Because 20 million more people will be vaccinated? Are we only allowed be happy about ireland?

depends if its at cost to us or not, if it is a result of the US hijacking the EUs supply it is not happy news for us in Ireland. if its a completely separate supply why not be happy for them

Irish Stones · 24-02-2021 02:58PM

Sconsey wrote: »

Sure but Irish Stones just made up the fact that AstraZenca announced it, they did not announce anything, it is an amportant distinction.
There's enough misinformation floating around without letting randomers make up the news.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/02/23/astrazeneca-vaccine-deliveries-june-likely-50-lower-thought-report

Well, Atra Zeneca might not have announced it, but the truth is that there's a cut in the supply anyway. And ramping up in Q3 isn't the solution.

Irish Stones · 24-02-2021 03:03PM

Deeper Blue wrote: »

There could be issues this year I reckon but I'm 99.9% sure things will go back to normal with regard to travel, the only difference being vaccination certs and/or testing at airports

Do you mean these will be in place this year/next year only, or forever?

ACitizenErased · 24-02-2021 03:04PM

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1364576737774854146?s=20

Mark1916 · 24-02-2021 03:04PM

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1364573384403800064?s=21

Possibly the news already posted, if so, apologies.

Sconsey · 24-02-2021 03:05PM

Irish Stones wrote: »

I reported what I have read and heard, so someone else is wrong.
The fact that AZ denies the claim doesn't mean it's true. Just like anybody else they can say what they want.

Irish Stones wrote: »

https://nltimes.nl/2021/02/23/astrazeneca-vaccine-deliveries-june-likely-50-lower-thought-report

Well, Atra Zeneca might not have announced it, but the truth is that there's a cut in the supply anyway. And ramping up in Q3 isn't the solution.

I'm sorry but you are talking nonsense. Please share the link where AstraZenca made the announcement yesterday. You can't because they never did.

The fact that you read one thing and then posted something else is a poor reflection on you.

24-02-2021 03:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1364576737774854146?s=20

Stick that in you pipe an smoke it Gerry, Sam and Tomas

ixoy · 24-02-2021 03:10PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1364576737774854146?s=20

BuT whAt AbOuT thE vaRiants?

Oh wait ..

seamus · 24-02-2021 03:13PM

ixoy wrote: »

BuT whAt AbOuT thE vaRiants?

Oh wait ..

It's OK, they've just invented a new Covid in California to combat this pesky new vaccine variant.

GeorgeBailey · 24-02-2021 03:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Stick that in you pipe an smoke it Gerry, Sam and Tomas

It would be fair enough to urge caution about the efficacy of vaccines if the science wasn't there. The really, really annoying thing about these feckers is that they continue to just blindly ignore actual science whilst anyone on social media pointing to that science and saying these guys are wrong is laughed at as an armchair virologist.

And presumably once the evidence is irrefutable in terms of hospitalisations/deaths they won't admit how wrong they were but just find something else to be wrong about.

Deeper Blue · 24-02-2021 04:25PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1364576737774854146?s=20

The big question is are they effective against the new virus which nobody seems to have heard of other than our government??

24-02-2021 04:42PM

Deeper Blue wrote: »

The big question is are they effective against the new virus which nobody seems to have heard of other than our government??

I think FG are playing FF for fools in cabinet. "Oh yes taoiseach, new variants, we must be cautious, I agree with your statement". Then the very next morning Leo says the following

"if we vaccinate everyone over 60 and under 60 with chronic conditions, that's 98% of the job"

Cork2021 · 24-02-2021 04:44PM

Fuçk them useless vaccines!!

https://twitter.com/coronavirusgoo1/status/1364601812851036163?s=21

Cork2021 · 24-02-2021 04:52PM

Ah damn even treatments look like they’ll work as well!!

https://twitter.com/ema_news/status/1364603635959742466?s=21

josip · 24-02-2021 04:54PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

AZ disputing that report now

... "As per this contract, approximately half of the expected volume is due to come from the EU supply chain, while the remainder would come from its international supply network. At this stage AstraZeneca is working to increase productivity in its EU supply chain and to continue to make use of its global capability in order to achieve delivery of 180 million doses to the EU in the second quarter."

Sounds like they're robbing Peter to pay back Paul, or is it now Paul to pay back Peter who they initially robbed.

bennyineire · 24-02-2021 04:54PM

It's a bad day for the doom merchants

24-02-2021 04:59PM

josip wrote: »

Sounds like they're robbing Peter to pay back Paul, or is it now Paul to pay back Peter who they initially robbed.

More like robing the Pedros and Muhammeds of Africa and Latin America, to pay the Peters and Pauls of Europe

josip · 24-02-2021 05:04PM

BrianD3 wrote: »

I see Lord Kilclooney (aka Unionist John Taylor) wants NI to help the Republic with its vaccination programme. I'd say this will make the Brit basher's heads melt.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/former-unionist-mp-kilclooney-has-urged-ni-executive-to-help-republic-with-vaccination-programme-40126280.html

I doubt Brian, if you or anyone else, is so naive as to believe that John's offer was made with genuine intentions.

trellheim · 24-02-2021 05:13PM

is there replanned spreadsheets for the revised AZ allocation ?

MethMartin · 24-02-2021 05:16PM

seamie78 wrote: »

depends if its at cost to us or not, if it is a result of the US hijacking the EUs supply it is not happy news for us in Ireland. if its a completely separate supply why not be happy for them

True but the sooner the US is finished the sooner they will lift the export ban.

eeepaulo · 24-02-2021 05:17PM

Does the vaccine reduce spread by the person who has had it and gets covid, or are they still as contagious?

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