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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #8852
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    hmmm wrote: »
    Sends out the wrong message entirely I think. "Go mad for a few weeks, and then back into lockdown for a few weeks afterwards to make up for it". Crazy, it's like pretending you can control a wild animal in your home. I feel sorry for our hospital staff and public health people.

    What do you want them to do, stay permanently locked down. Do you not feel sorry for the thousands out of work.


  • #8853
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    some plan.
    Let everyone get who wants to get drunk do what they want for december,

    While lives will now be lost & another lockdown in January. Unforgiveble stuff from this disgraceful goverment.


  • #8854
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    niallo27 wrote: »
    They have been the quietest in years, our trolley numbers have never been this low. I'm sure they will be OK.

    I was in A&E a good few times throughout this year and all the doctors and nurses said the same. It was dead quiet. They were enjoying the calmness, but were very concerned that there are huge numbers of people who are not being treated for non-COVID illnesses. NPHET don't really give a **** about public health when it comes to non-COVID illnesses though.


  • #8855
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    You can't keep everything shut either

    Businesses need to trade, people need to see friends, family, partners in other counties especially after over 2 months of lockdown

    I don't disagree with you on any of that .

    But opening all up is a mistake at this time.

    If it was going to be enforced properly ,I would say ok .

    But we have been here a couple of times before .
    Nothing is enforced , and when the proverbial hits the fan everyone starts blaming NPHET ,the hospitals ,the HSE ,the government , the buskers , etc and this will be unenforceable now because , sure its Christmas .


  • #8856
    didyoufart?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33 ✭didyoufart?


    MD1990 wrote: »
    some plan.
    Let everyone get who wants to get drunk do what they want for december,

    While lives will now be lost & another lockdown in January. Unforgiveble stuff from this disgraceful goverment.

    Everything should open back up in the country and let the over 65s and those with underlying conditions cocoon until they get vacinne. Sorry but should be done.

    The nursing homes situation is scandalous.


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  • #8857
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What do you want them to do, stay permanently locked down. Do you not feel sorry for the thousands out of work.

    He doesn't have an answer, it seems to be stay locked down in order to avoid being locked down in the future.

    This isn't living, and the way our rights are being removed at a moments notice is disgusting.


  • #8858
    aziz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭aziz


    hmmm wrote: »
    Sends out the wrong message entirely I think. "Go mad for a few weeks, and then back into lockdown for a few weeks afterwards to make up for it". Crazy, it's like pretending you can control a wild animal in your home. I feel sorry for our hospital staff and public health people.

    Well maybe do your part by drinking a gallon of mouthwash,cover yourself in hand sanitizer and hide under the bed until it’s all over.

    We will call you then, I swear 😷


  • #8859
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Gastropubs and restaurants were open all summer and the sky didn't fall.

    Death rates hardly rose at all. People need to get a grip with the hand wringing and pearl clutching.


  • #8860
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    niallo27 wrote: »
    What do you want them to do, stay permanently locked down. Do you not feel sorry for the thousands out of work.
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?


  • #8861
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,044 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Awful news. Going to be a complete mess in January and February in the hospitals. Feel desperately bad for our doctors and nurses. :(
    Did you think they'd honestly stop household gatherings? At least restaurants might curb some people from meeting longer than they would have otherwise.

    People are going to meet over Christmas so it's far better to accept that and try their best to work out scenarios to handle it.


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  • #8862
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    D.Q wrote: »
    Gastropubs and restaurants were open all summer and the sky didn't fall.

    Death rates hardly rose at all. People need to get a grip with the hand wringing and pearl clutching.

    Cases were a fraction of what they are now.


  • #8863
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Eod100 wrote: »
    ''As a compromise to Nphet, the Government said it will have stricter rules on household gatherings over Christmas.

    Household visits will be banned until on December 18 and will only be permitted after that until January 3. Inter county travel will also be permitted in this time period as will religious services.''

    Neither really can be enforced, I don't see many waiting from 1st and not to 18th to visit other households.

    Yup quite difficult that


  • #8864
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Cases were a fraction of what they are now.

    Cases mean sweet **** all. Why is that the metric that matters. Hospitals weren't overwhelmed.


  • #8865
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,562 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Deleted User wrote:
    Is the the conclusive evidence on spread of the virus in schools from the study that focused on parts of India and had nothing stronger than the below to say on schools?
    The main focus of this is on super spreaders, and kids according to that study are super spreaders and a huge part of the spread in the home.
    So they pick it up it school then spread it around the home.


  • #8866
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,248 ✭✭✭MOR316


    hmmm wrote: »
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?

    OK...

    So if people aren't going to visit pubs and restaurants, what are you worried about?


  • #8867
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    hmmm wrote: »
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?

    You must live in a different city to me because every restaurant near me in Dublin was booked out from the day they opened until the day they were told to shut.

    There are literally queues outside pubs in Rathmines and Ranelagh for takeaway pints in the freezing cold. The demand is absolutely there


  • #8868
    GazzaL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    hmmm wrote: »
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?

    Let people take personal responsibility. Nobody is being forced to go into a pub or a restaurant. If you don't want to go to one, fantastic, stay the **** at home. But don't force pro-lockdown views on everyone else if they are prepared to take personal responsibility.


  • #8869
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    titan18 wrote: »
    It's Christmas tbf so Passion of the Christ would seem more appropriate

    Yeah too bad that post and a few of my other ones mysteriously disappeared even though there wasn't much wrong with them. One of life's mysteries.


  • #8870
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,001 ✭✭✭growleaves


    hmmm wrote: »
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?

    If people won't go to pubs and restaurants then why is it necessary to keep them forcibly closed? Why not just leave them open?


  • #8871
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,562 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    ACitizenErased wrote:
    Happy christmas lads. I’m dying for a bowl of chicken wings
    Did you put up your formula and projections for how many cases we'll have at Christmas?
    Seeing as you spend your time questioning everybody else's projections I'm sure you have a formula and projections of your own.


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  • #8872
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,976 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    D.Q wrote: »
    Cases mean sweet **** all. Why is that the metric that matters. Hospitals weren't overwhelmed.

    Because cases were low , infection and community transmission practically nonexistent.

    We are not starting from base like July and August .
    These numbers are more like end of September and we all know what happened a few weeks later .


  • #8873
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Did you put up your formula and projections for how many cases we'll have at Christmas?
    Seeing as you spend your time questioning everybody else's projections I'm sure you have a formula and projections of your own.

    Ah don't be having a sulk because some people are allowed a bit of enjoyment. I'd suggest focusing your fear and anxiety on climate change when this all wraps up. Probably a bit more mileage in it. Slower burn misery obviously but well worth the investment.


  • #8874
    wes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    Government ignored advice the last time, ended up with us having a 6 week lockdown instead of a 4 week one. The 6 weeks will have caused far more damage than a 4 week one.

    This latest decision will once again damage the economy and also cost peoples lives. NPHET will ultimately be proven correct again, and we will have another shutdown, when if we did things right, we could have avoided.

    Honestly, its depressing that they are doing this again.


  • #8875
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If people are not happy with pubs and restaurants opening, I can only assume you want lockdown until everybody is vaccinated?

    Which could be far into 2021 depending on how things pan out.


  • #8876
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Because cases were low , infection and community transmission practically nonexistent.

    We are not starting from base like July and August .
    These numbers are more like end of September and we all know what happened a few weeks later .

    Wha happened? Did I miss some cataclysmic event?


  • #8877
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Because cases were low , infection and community transmission practically nonexistent.

    We are not starting from base like July and August .
    These numbers are more like end of September and we all know what happened a few weeks later .
    The same arguments with the same people again who seem to have learned nothing. That includes the government this time.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114505124
    I'd barely posted the above last time before cases spiked and we went back into lockdown.


  • #8878
    wowzer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭wowzer


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Happy christmas lads. I’m dying for a bowl of chicken wings

    If ever there was a post to prove you are nothing more than a wind up merchant this is it.


  • #8879
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    hmmm wrote: »
    The facts are clear - countries which better control the virus have had better economic outcomes.

    People are not going to visit pubs and restaurants when the virus is spreading at high numbers, we have seen twice now that people start restricting their own activities even before a lockdown is announced. How many times do we have to see the same pattern repeated?

    So what do you want to see happen, stay in level 5, keep restaurants closed until a vaccine. Allowing people to go for dinner for an hour and half is hardly the end of the world. We have become too soft and if cases do rise to over a 1000 or 1500 then introduce level 5 again, we know it works and we know hospitals will come no where near getting overwhelmed despite the 2 week ****e we always hear.


  • #8880
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    wes wrote: »
    Government ignored advice the last time, ended up with us having a 6 week lockdown instead of a 4 week one. The 6 weeks will have caused far more damage than a 4 week one.

    This latest decision will once again damage the economy and also cost peoples lives. NPHET will ultimately be proven correct again, and we will have another shutdown, when if we did things right, we could have avoided.

    Honestly, its depressing that they are doing this again.

    Sorry are you saying we should shutdown to avoid a shut down.

    Go to the pub, have a few chicken wings, maybe even a smile or two


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  • #8881
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    wes wrote: »
    Government ignored advice the last time, ended up with us having a 6 week lockdown instead of a 4 week one. The 6 weeks will have caused far more damage than a 4 week one.

    This latest decision will once again damage the economy and also cost peoples lives. NPHET will ultimately be proven correct again, and we will have another shutdown, when if we did things right, we could have avoided.

    Honestly, its depressing that they are doing this again.

    Lol!!!

    Have you been paying any attention?

    If NPHET say 6 weeks, you can assume they really mean 12 and will then want another 6 with very slight relaxations.

    It’s just not sustainable anymore.


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