Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1332041083451285505?s=19


All the numbers today suggest today's numbers were an anomaly. Tests down massively, around 1/3rd. Numbers up massively, again by about 1/3rd. Something ain't right.

ACitizenErased wrote:

1000 per day by Christmas eve I swear some on here wear NPHET t-shirts. It’s alright lads, ye can disagree with Tony, he won’t hurt ya.

Go through the numbers and he's right

MOR316 wrote: »

If the restaurants opened, what's stopping you from not going to them?

I'm confused here, genuinely!
Are you saying you're waiting for Government and NPHET to tell you what to do?

They're guidelines! You have a choice! It's up to you!

I would like people with a knowledge of public health to give advice on to best protect public health,
Yes.

I don’t see how that can be a wild take.

And following their advice, which if we’d done 2 weeks sooner, as advised, this wouldn’t even be an issue!

Hulk Hands wrote:

Government's job has been done by NPHET there this evening. The leaking of plans was there to gauge public opinion. Well the outpouring of anger to this NPHET recommendation can leave the government in no doubt that opinion has swung firmly against NPHET and further strong lockdown.

No, the loudmouth alcoholics and spoilt little children in the bodies of adults are shouting loud but there many more than them that just want to be safe and not lose a loved one to this virus. Most people I'm talking to are planning to stay at home for Christmas. My sister is one of those spoilt little children in an adults body, she's going to my parents house regularly with her children from crèche and school.
The rest of my family intend to go to the house on Christmas day but stay outside and chat to my parents, myself included.

pjohnson wrote: »

Like the blanket comments that are made about the genuine posters who agree with restrictions/NPHET?

There are very little posters on here who provide genuine reasoning for agreeing with NPHET other than saying '10000000 cases per day if we don't' and how the hospitals will be doomed etc.
On the other hand, we have decreasing positivity rates, stable hospital figures, record low community referrals, record low average contacts yet NPHET decide to recommend basically level 4.5

ACitizenErased wrote: »

There are very little posters on here who provide genuine reasoning for agreeing with NPHET other than saying '10,000,000 cases per day if we don't' and how the hospitals will be doomed etc.
On the other hand, we have decreasing positivity rates, stable hospital figures, record low community referrals, record low average contacts yet NPHET decide to recommend basically level 4.5

Who said 10,000,000 cases a day then?

Seems like a generalisation. Kinda like the person calling Ireland a nation of alco's.....

pjohnson wrote: »

Who said 10,000,000 cases a day then?

Seems like a generalisation. Kinda like the person calling Ireland a nation of alco's.....

It's called sarcasm.

Mr the Frog pulled the 1000 cases per day by Christmas eve card when posting earlier.

eagle eye wrote: »

That's how you see a post full of an opinion of which everyone is entitled to

Fixed your post for you

pjohnson wrote: »

Who said 10,000,000 cases a day then?

Seems like a generalisation. Kinda like the person calling Ireland a nation of alco's.....

But there literally has been people saying there'll be thousands of cases a day.

That's not a generalisation, that's a fact! Go through any of the Covid threads, you'll see them. Most are the same people, some were just WUMs

D.Q wrote: »

I've been as guilty of it as anyone but there has been an incredible amount of energy expended between both sides bickering on here haha

None of what we post matters a toss and it's been going on for 9 months straight haha.

We won't affect any decision made and I don't think either side of the argument has conceded an inch. Brutal trench warfare.

We'll need a Christmas day truce with a kickabout

I think the government is hoping covid gives is all a Christmas day truce tbh ha

Richard Hillman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1332041083451285505?s=19


All the numbers today suggest today's numbers were an anomaly. Tests down massively, around 1/3rd. Numbers up massively, again by about 1/3rd. Something ain't right.

Numbers will regularly go above the respective daily 7 day rolling averages when cases are on a falling trajectory, no significant outliers/anomalies and NPHET/Tony Holohan aren't fiddling the numbers which will disappoint some on this forum

Here's all the numbers since Level introduction on October 22nd, by my count 11 out of 36 days where daily numbers were above the 7 day rolling average

Day Month Date Deaths Weekly 7 Day Av ROI Weekly 5 Day Av 5 Day % 7 Day Av 7 Day % 14 Day Av 14 Day %
Thursday October 22nd 3 33 4.71 1,066 8,092 1,163.20 7.96% 1,156.00 26.85% 1,033.64 135.61%
Friday October 23rd 7 37 5.29 777 7,869 1,062.00 -9.37% 1,124.14 16.37% 1,045.07 127.44%
Saturday October 24th 4 33 4.71 859 7,452 1,027.60 -11.34% 1,064.57 6.06% 1,034.14 101.17%
Sunday October 25th 0 30 4.29 1,025 7,194 978.80 -16.47% 1,027.71 -4.02% 1,049.21 93.76%
Monday October 26th 3 33 4.71 939 7,102 933.20 -22.57% 1,014.57 -7.78% 1,057.36 84.67%
Tuesday October 27th 5 25 3.57 720 6,553 864.00 -25.72% 936.14 -19.68% 1,050.86 73.82%
Wednesday October 28th 6 28 4.00 675 6,061 843.60 -20.56% 865.86 -26.36% 1,020.86 56.54%
Thursday October 29th 6 31 4.43 866 5,861 845.00 -17.77% 837.29 -27.57% 996.64 41.04%
Friday October 30th 6 30 4.29 772 5,856 794.40 -18.84% 836.57 -25.58% 980.36 31.68%
Saturday October 31st 5 31 4.43 416 5,413 689.80 -26.08% 773.29 -27.36% 918.93 16.05%
Sunday November 1st 2 33 4.71 552 4,940 656.20 -24.05% 705.71 -31.33% 866.71 1.07%
Monday November 2nd 2 32 4.57 767 4,768 674.60 -20.03% 681.14 -32.86% 847.86 -5.18%
Tuesday November 3rd 5 32 4.57 322 4,370 565.80 -33.04% 624.29 -33.31% 780.21 -18.21%
Wednesday November 4th 8 34 4.86 444 4,139 500.20 -37.03% 591.29 -31.71% 728.57 -26.68%
Thursday November 5th 3 31 4.43 591 3,864 535.20 -22.41% 552.00 -34.07% 694.64 -32.80%
Friday November 6th 8 33 4.71 499 3,591 524.60 -20.05% 513.00 -38.68% 674.79 -35.43%
Saturday November 7th 5 33 4.71 355 3,530 442.20 -34.45% 504.29 -34.79% 638.79 -38.23%
Sunday November 8th 2 33 4.71 542 3,520 486.20 -14.07% 502.86 -28.74% 604.29 -42.41%
Monday November 9th 1 32 4.57 270 3,023 451.40 -9.76% 431.86 -36.60% 556.50 -47.37%
Tuesday November 10th 16 43 6.14 270 2,971 387.20 -27.65% 424.43 -32.01% 524.36 -50.10%
Wednesday November 11th 2 37 5.29 362 2,889 359.80 -31.41% 412.71 -30.20% 502.00 -50.83%
Thursday November 12th 1 35 5.00 395 2,693 367.80 -16.82% 384.71 -30.31% 468.36 -53.01%
Friday November 13th 7 34 4.86 482 2,676 355.80 -26.82% 382.29 -25.48% 447.64 -54.34%
Saturday November 14th 6 35 5.00 456 2,777 393.00 -12.94% 396.71 -21.33% 450.50 -50.98%
Sunday November 15th 1 34 4.86 378 2,613 414.60 7.08% 373.29 -25.77% 438.07 -49.46%
Monday November 16th 5 38 5.43 456 2,799 433.40 20.46% 399.86 -7.41% 415.86 -50.95%
Tuesday November 17th 11 33 4.71 366 2,895 427.60 16.26% 413.57 -2.56% 419.00 -46.30%
Wednesday November 18th 12 43 6.14 379 2,912 407.00 14.39% 416.00 0.80% 414.36 -43.13%
Thursday November 19th 4 46 6.57 429 2,946 401.60 2.19% 420.86 9.39% 402.79 -42.02%
Friday November 20th 8 47 6.71 330 2,794 392.00 -5.45% 399.14 4.41% 390.71 -42.10%
Saturday November 21st 4 45 6.43 344 2,682 369.60 -14.72% 383.14 -3.42% 389.93 -38.96%
Sunday November 22nd 1 45 6.43 318 2,622 360.00 -15.81% 374.57 0.34% 373.93 -38.12%
Monday November 23rd 0 40 5.71 252 2,418 334.60 -17.79% 345.43 -13.61% 372.64 -33.04%
Tuesday November 24th 6 35 5.00 226 2,278 294.00 -26.79% 325.43 -21.31% 369.50 -29.53%
Wednesday November 25th 6 29 4.14 269 2,168 281.80 -28.11% 309.71 -25.55% 362.86 -27.72%
Thursday November 26th 3 28 4.00 335 2,074 280.00 -24.24% 296.29 -29.60% 358.57 -23.44%

The HSE are a shambles. They have been for decades, from memory. They have overpaid consultants, middle and top management. They know we have less capacity that most Euro members.

They are covering their holes by laying the blame on the people. Overpaid cowards.

They have being dragging sick people through courts for ever. People who are telling the truth.

NPHET are the HSE. Tony is one of these cowards!

Im not surprised.

I can't see the government agreeing with their recommendations. If I'm wrong and they do the people won't take this crap, the majority IMO.

almostover wrote: »

The biggest failure of the government's living with COVID plan is that it isnt reflective of human nature. People will not comply with an expectation where they must have no social interactions outside of their household, it's just not feasible over an extended period of time. We would get much more buy in if each of the 5 levels was associated with a number of cases per 100k and an R number of a certain value. Human nature loves targets and achieving them. There would be far more public buy in and adherence to the guidelines if people knew that getting cases number down would result in the reward of more businesses open and greater opportunity for social interactions. That for me has been the single biggest failure of government policy in relation to COVID, it's all stick and no carrot!

Agreed, in general, but can you imagine the accusations of number-manipulation that would bring?

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I'd say NPHET saved and tacked on a couple hundred extra cases just for today. It's a running theme with them, usually do it whenever restrictions are to be lifted.

Why would they do that? How could they or society benefit from that? The only theme is conspiracy theories because people can’t accept what’s going on around the world.