Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Spanish Eyes · 20-11-2020 07:25PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Why the hell does RTE news start with a headline covid story from fking Northern Ireland ...............I mean why stop there and not go to Scotland or some other foreign country

RTE were always obsessed with NI. Still are apparently.
They don’t pay a TV license here either.

normanoffside · 20-11-2020 07:25PM

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Covid zero man McConkey just on the radio promoting stricter measures to get the cases down to 5 or 10 a day

When they were 5 or 10 a day he still wasn't happy, wanted stricter measures.

Wolf359f · 20-11-2020 07:26PM

jackboy wrote: »

At this rate we could be under 200 a day in two weeks time. A number in the 100’s at the end of level 5 would actually be a terrible number. Too low to continue with level 5 but too high to go to much lower restrictions.

Cases will continue to drop even when we open back up (initially).
If cases are falling, r0 dropping, we could still hit 100 cases a day, just it could be a week into opening. It's more the trajectory we're on than the figures we're at, at any given day.

Steve012 · 20-11-2020 07:31PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Prison or High Fines, detain them, what part of ROI are they from?

Prison or high fines, are nothing to them..

iamwhoiam · 20-11-2020 07:34PM

The absolute irony watching David Mc Cullagh ask about Judge Woulfe and his error of judgment .

Ohmeha · 20-11-2020 07:35PM

jackboy wrote: »

At this rate we could be under 200 a day in two weeks time. A number in the 100’s at the end of level 5 would actually be a terrible number. Too low to continue with level 5 but too high to go to much lower restrictions.

R number would have to be no higher than 0.5 right now which it isn't and there is no evidence or trends to indicate this will happen on current 5/7/14 Day averages and percentages

Day Month Date Deaths Weekly 7 Day Av ROI Weekly 5 Day Av 5 Day % 7 Day Av 7 Day % 14 Day Av 14 Day %
Thursday October 22nd 3 33 4.71 1,066 8,092 1,163.20 7.96% 1,156.00 26.85% 1,033.64 135.61%
Friday October 23rd 7 37 5.29 777 7,869 1,062.00 -9.37% 1,124.14 16.37% 1,045.07 127.44%
Saturday October 24th 4 33 4.71 859 7,452 1,027.60 -11.34% 1,064.57 6.06% 1,034.14 101.17%
Sunday October 25th 0 30 4.29 1,025 7,194 978.80 -16.47% 1,027.71 -4.02% 1,049.21 93.76%
Monday October 26th 3 33 4.71 939 7,102 933.20 -22.57% 1,014.57 -7.78% 1,057.36 84.67%
Tuesday October 27th 5 25 3.57 720 6,553 864.00 -25.72% 936.14 -19.68% 1,050.86 73.82%
Wednesday October 28th 6 28 4.00 675 6,061 843.60 -20.56% 865.86 -26.36% 1,020.86 56.54%
Thursday October 29th 6 31 4.43 866 5,861 845.00 -17.77% 837.29 -27.57% 996.64 41.04%
Friday October 30th 6 30 4.29 772 5,856 794.40 -18.84% 836.57 -25.58% 980.36 31.68%
Saturday October 31st 5 31 4.43 416 5,413 689.80 -26.08% 773.29 -27.36% 918.93 16.05%
Sunday November 1st 2 33 4.71 552 4,940 656.20 -24.05% 705.71 -31.33% 866.71 1.07%
Monday November 2nd 2 32 4.57 767 4,768 674.60 -20.03% 681.14 -32.86% 847.86 -5.18%
Tuesday November 3rd 5 32 4.57 322 4,370 565.80 -33.04% 624.29 -33.31% 780.21 -18.21%
Wednesday November 4th 8 34 4.86 444 4,139 500.20 -37.03% 591.29 -31.71% 728.57 -26.68%
Thursday November 5th 3 31 4.43 591 3,864 535.20 -22.41% 552.00 -34.07% 694.64 -32.80%
Friday November 6th 8 33 4.71 499 3,591 524.60 -20.05% 513.00 -38.68% 674.79 -35.43%
Saturday November 7th 5 33 4.71 355 3,530 442.20 -34.45% 504.29 -34.79% 638.79 -38.23%
Sunday November 8th 2 33 4.71 542 3,520 486.20 -14.07% 502.86 -28.74% 604.29 -42.41%
Monday November 9th 1 32 4.57 270 3,023 451.40 -9.76% 431.86 -36.60% 556.50 -47.37%
Tuesday November 10th 16 43 6.14 270 2,971 387.20 -27.65% 424.43 -32.01% 524.36 -50.10%
Wednesday November 11th 2 37 5.29 362 2,889 359.80 -31.41% 412.71 -30.20% 502.00 -50.83%
Thursday November 12th 1 35 5.00 395 2,693 367.80 -16.82% 384.71 -30.31% 468.36 -53.01%
Friday November 13th 7 34 4.86 482 2,676 355.80 -26.82% 382.29 -25.48% 447.64 -54.34%
Saturday November 14th 6 35 5.00 456 2,777 393.00 -12.94% 396.71 -21.33% 450.50 -50.98%
Sunday November 15th 1 34 4.86 378 2,613 414.60 7.08% 373.29 -25.77% 438.07 -49.46%
Monday November 16th 5 38 5.43 456 2,799 433.40 20.46% 399.86 -7.41% 415.86 -50.95%
Tuesday November 17th 11 33 4.71 366 2,895 427.60 16.26% 413.57 -2.56% 419.00 -46.30%
Wednesday November 18th 12 43 6.14 379 2,912 407.00 14.39% 416.00 0.80% 414.36 -43.13%
Thursday November 19th 4 46 6.57 429 2,946 401.60 2.19% 420.86 9.39% 402.79 -42.02%
Friday November 20th 8 47 6.71 330 2,794 392.00 -5.45% 399.14 4.41% 390.71 -42.10%

Shelly66 · 20-11-2020 07:38PM

5 days waiting on test results, tested in croke park Monday as I had bronchial issues and fatigue, much improved now but I have had no results and rang Hse helpline twice . Really frustrating at this stage , I have done what was asked isolating in bedroom. My husband cannot return to work till I get negative results hopefully.

Is it any wonder we have high numbers many people would not wait this long and follow the rules on isolating. This will put me off going for tests again. Its ridiculous the length if time we wait for a result plus any contacts I had are carrying on as normal

jackboy · 20-11-2020 07:43PM

Ohmeha wrote: »

R number would have to be no higher than 0.5 right now which it isn't and there is no evidence or trends to indicate this will happen on current 5/7/14 Day averages and percentages]

The numbers seem to be steadily decreasing though. We seem to have had a minor spike which may be over. Things are not clear but it is possible that numbers could come well down in the next two weeks

pc7 · 20-11-2020 07:47PM

are we going to find out the 26th November what the plan is for the 1st December?

political analyst · 20-11-2020 07:49PM

Danonino. wrote: »

A hoax to what end? This is what confuses me. What do the gubberment have to gain by placing restrictions on the public? I’ve yet to hear any convincing reason to impose the restrictions outside of to suppress the spread and impact of a virus.

The ‘it’s only as bad as influenza’ argument was outdated months ago. It’s not a flu, the reactions made by governments the world over make that obvious. Heck it was obvious watching Chinas response back in feb. Statistically the virus is non threatening to a large age group, statistically. What I mean is, just because one might get Covid and show no symptoms or brush it off doesn’t mean the chance of severe or fatal complications is null, or that spreading it to others won’t result in others dead, not sniffling with lemsips and taking a few days off work, dead, g’luck, slater.

Ignoring that and just focusing on the very real (especially with our health system) potential clusterfurk that could result from hospitals reaching capacity and the resulting nightmare that would entail. When was the last time anyone ever heard of hospitals having to administer oxygen in car parks, or ventilator numbers not meeting demand and resulting in excess deaths. It’s strange times. But all this has all been repeated ad naseum.

I think attitudes change drastically when you know someone that suffered from Covid and died from it. As sad as that is.

Personally I like to think that my inability to visit family, travel or socialize doesn’t make my life so miserable or controlled to not be valuable and enjoyable. The virus being global, with every country will have economic repercussions gives me some peace of mind.

Do I believe the virus is non-deadly to my age group? Statistically yes, I’m golden, no underlying conditions and not in any risk group. Does this make me resent the lockdowns and restrictions? No. I can put my needs aside in the hope that someone else doesn’t suffer.

WHAT I AM TERRIFIED off is the fact that when faced with a global pandemic, a very real novel virus. Something not easily diluted down to an us vs them with a villain/group to loathe and a hero to rally behind. Where the greatest offence and defense is to limit interactions and stay at home. A huge amount to the public just can’t accept changes or at worst put their life on hold temporarily. It took mere weeks before we had people marching and protesting, cries of a mental health catastrophe, government conspiracy and draconian life altering measures. I had a colleague who’s greatest concerns (I **** you not) was not being able to travel abroad on his second sun holiday this year, deferring plans on buying a new Audi and that wearing a mask made his nose sweat. Meanwhile I was reading about India’s first lockdown and trying to gain perspective.

The reason I’m terrified is now we know the reaction and ability a large chunk of people will have if there is a novel virus THAT IS life threatening. Let’s say a new virus with a ... we’ll say 40% death rate. I wish I could say people would react differently, but honestly. I don’t think they would. That’s scary. It’s terrifying to know that people can’t even write off a year in order to save someone multiple. The fact that everything I’ve spewed here will do nothing to change the opinions of someone who feels strongly against the restrictions and actions taken is also not lost on me.

Not aimed directly at the OP just an early morning coffee rant. Apologies for what is probably an over long and grammer landfill post.

EDIT: chopped out the personal waffle

I think they would react differently because of the greater likelihood of death being caused by infection.

If there is the slightest suspicion of a novel virus that has anything like a 40% death rate then governments would suspend travel to and from the country that would have the initial outbreak straight away, especially if it's in China!

Of course this virus - SARS CoV 2 - is more serious than the flu but neither is it as deadly as bubonic plague or anthrax or smallpox.

Shelly66 · 20-11-2020 07:51PM

Tpcl20 wrote: »

When her husband spoke to the contact tracer, they said they wouldn't be offering her a test at this time as she is asymptomatic. They said if she starts to develop symptoms, she should self-isolate. They also didn't mention that she should contact her GP.

That's not correct , a close contact has 2 tests one at day 5 i think and another a week later , my nephew had to. Contact tracers told me my husband did not need to restrict his movement while I await results, Incorrect , Gp told me he had to and it's on the printed leaflet I got at test centre .

bodhrandude · 20-11-2020 07:54PM

I've seen this a lot on this thread, contact tracers or contract tracers? Which one is it and which one is correct, is contract a genuine typo?. I'd go with the first one.

Shelly66 · 20-11-2020 08:00PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

I've seen this a lot on this thread, contact tracers or contract tracers? Which one is it and which one is correct, is contract a genuine typo?. I'd go with the first one.

Sorted , and that's with my glasses on ha!

prunudo · 20-11-2020 08:05PM

Shelly66 wrote: »

5 days waiting on test results, tested in croke park Monday as I had bronchial issues and fatigue, much improved now but I have had no results and rang Hse helpline twice . Really frustrating at this stage , I have done what was asked isolating in bedroom. My husband cannot return to work till I get negative results hopefully.

Is it any wonder we have high numbers many people would not wait this long and follow the rules on isolating. This will put me off going for tests again. Its ridiculous the length if time we wait for a result plus any contacts I had are carrying on as normal

Double check your messages, when i got my result, I missed the message from the hse initially as it came in while on a call.

Shelly66 · 20-11-2020 08:08PM

prunudo wrote: »

Double check your messages, when i got my result, I missed the message from the hse initially as it came in while on a call.

Have nothing there thanks

Martina1991 · 20-11-2020 08:10PM

Shelly66 wrote: »

Have nothing there thanks

Your test is likely done and processed and the issue may be due to your contact information.
Ring your GP. They should be able to access your result.

Ficheall · 20-11-2020 08:14PM

political analyst wrote: »

I think they would react differently because of the greater likelihood of death being caused by infection.

If there is the slightest suspicion of a novel virus that has anything like a 40% death rate then governments would suspend travel to and from the country that would have the initial outbreak straight away, especially if it's in China!

They didn't though. When this kicked off in January (on boards, as opposed to whenever the original virus surfaced), there were what, 20-25% fatality rates reported? Those rates turned out to be way overestimated thankfully, but they did not know that at the time, and they did nothing. When Lombardy was overrun, and doctors were having to decide which patients to treat, and which to let die, there were people still coming and going on their skiing holidays.

Loafing Oaf · 20-11-2020 08:15PM

pc7 wrote: »

are we going to find out the 26th November what the plan is for the 1st December?

That's the plan:P

PmMeUrDogs · 20-11-2020 08:15PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

The best thing anybody could do for the grandparents is get them out of nursing homes, residential setting and hospitals where at all possible.

Mine isn't in one thankfully, she's independent at home with a part time carer

Ficheall · 20-11-2020 08:17PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Why the hell does RTE news start with a headline covid story from fking Northern Ireland ...............I mean why stop there and not go to Scotland or some other foreign country

Probably because 30000 people don't travel between Ireland and Scotland every day. (That figure is from pre-covid, but I'm pretty confident the NI visitors dwarf the Scottish numbers these days too).

CIARAN_BOYLE · 20-11-2020 08:23PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

That's the plan:P

The government are supposed to get Nphet recommendations then.

Government might take a few days to consider them.

Hellrazer · 20-11-2020 08:35PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

The government are supposed to get Nphet recommendations then.

You mean the government are supposed to be issued with direct orders from NPHET which they will gladly implement without any consideration or thought for the economy or country as a whole.

But they will tell us that they are considering the advice from NPHET to make it look like they are in charge!!!

spookwoman · 20-11-2020 08:56PM

Goldengirl · 20-11-2020 09:19PM

Thierry12 wrote: »

Thought so

No data as usual

What are you going on about , data about what?

Will you stop quoting me and trying to cause a row constantly?
You are genuinely creeping me out and trolling at this stage .
You have no interest in any data that anyone posts except to suit your rants and tirades so yes I won't be posting links for you.
I asked you to look that up for yourself .

I am ignoring you from here on and I want you to leave me alone now .

Polar101 · 20-11-2020 09:20PM

video of a funeral at St Coman’s Cemetery in Roscommon town on Friday, November 6th, shows hundreds of people in attendance, with little adherence to public health advice. Very few people were social distancing or wearing masks.

most of the people did not appear to be from the local area and had instead travelled from various parts of the country.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-funeral-video-shows-large-crowd-in-breach-of-level-5-rules-1.4415039

Gardai investigating a funeral in co Roscommon two weeks ago, sounds like a few more than 25 people in attendance there.

(apologies if posted already)

boggerman1 · 20-11-2020 09:22PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Why the hell does RTE news start with a headline covid story from fking Northern Ireland ...............I mean why stop there and not go to Scotland or some other foreign country

Did they send up cathriona Perry to present from Derry or Belfast

froog · 20-11-2020 09:54PM

nattin

froog · 20-11-2020 09:54PM

anyway i wish seagulls were covid vectors. f*ck those guys.

Plumbthedepths · 20-11-2020 09:55PM

Polar101 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-funeral-video-shows-large-crowd-in-breach-of-level-5-rules-1.4415039

Gardai investigating a funeral in co Roscommon two weeks ago, sounds like a few more than 25 people in attendance there.

(apologies if posted already)

It's alright don't you know the attendees at the funeral similar to those on the Málaga flight are immune to the law....sorry I mean the virus.

Happy4all · 20-11-2020 09:57PM

Polar101 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-funeral-video-shows-large-crowd-in-breach-of-level-5-rules-1.4415039

Gardai investigating a funeral in co Roscommon two weeks ago, sounds like a few more than 25 people in attendance there.

(apologies if posted already)

Would they from a background of not complying in general with rules?

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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